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[oracle343gspark]

ThePwener wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Women are not a minority.

Good observation.

However, this thread is about female Shepards. They are a minority.

Most women are put off by the idea of becoming gamers due to the highly sexualized image that games give them.

It's a shame really.

You know Birdo is a dude?

[Kusy]

ThePwener wrote...

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Women are not a minority.

Good observation.
However, this thread is about female Shepards. They are a minority.

Most women are put off by the idea of becoming gamers due to the highly sexualized image that games give them.
It's a shame really.

How is it a shame and why would that argument be valid? You're trying to tell me that females can't play video games because female characters are overidealised in games? If this was the case nobody should play video games because all characters there are overidealised, Just because I'm not a humungus beefcake I can't enjoy playing Gears of War?

Girls don't play video games because most of them can't grasp that many flashing and moving things in a 3D environment with their not manly enough minds! Ha! Scientificly prooven fact!

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 01 août 2011 - 09:51 .

[Icinix]

IsaacShep wrote...

Icinix wrote...

..but you know what the funny thing about stereotypes is though?.... 

...

That people simply adore to clutch to them and think the fact these stereotypes exist justifies using them whenever someone wants?

I suppose it depends on symantics and how far you take the stereotype.

Stereotypically most gamers are right handed and male. I also don't think its to far to say Stereotypically most facebook gamers are women.  There was an analytic study a year or two ago, the number came back around 70%.

Just wouldn't use it to dis-regard someones comment though. 

[crimzontearz]

will people please stop calling the digital characters "toons"?

thank you

[ThePwener]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

How is it a shame and why would that argument be valid? You're trying to tell me that females can't play video games because female characters are overidealised in games? If this was the case nobody should play video games because all characters there are overidealised, Just because I'm not a humungus beefcake I can't enjoy playing Gears of War?

Would you like to play if all males are depicted like this....



I thought so.

[ThePwener]

oracle343gspark wrote...

You know Birdo is a dude?

Wait... what?

[shepskisaac]

ThePwener wrote...

Most women are put off by the idea of becoming gamers due to the highly sexualized image that games give them.

It's a shame really.

New Lara looks rather different:

[Kusy]

ThePwener wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

How is it a shame and why would that argument be valid? You're trying to tell me that females can't play video games because female characters are overidealised in games? If this was the case nobody should play video games because all characters there are overidealised, Just because I'm not a humungus beefcake I can't enjoy playing Gears of War?

Would you like to play if all males are depicted like this....
*snip for fugliness*
I thought so.

You just missed a point bro. Lara Croft has a nice ass and big boobies because men find it attractive. Using analogy close the picture you provided all female characters in games should not be attractive but look like cheap hookers.

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

I'm male and i love play ME whit Female Shepard, my Francin, its a great experience.

[ThePwener]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

You just missed a point bro. Lara Croft has a nice ass and big boobies because men find it attractive. Using analogy close the picture you provided all female characters in games should not be attractive but look like cheap hookers.

I was looking for an insulting example, not an exact opposite.

You think this kinda thing isn't a little insulting?



Damn boob simulator.

[Kusy]

ThePwener wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

You just missed a point bro. Lara Croft has a nice ass and big boobies because men find it attractive. Using analogy close the picture you provided all female characters in games should not be attractive but look like cheap hookers.

I was looking for an insulting example, not an exact opposite.

You think this kinda thing isn't a little insulting?



Damn boob simulator.

DoA is Japaneese. You do relaise how patriarchal their society is?

[ThePwener]

IsaacShep wrote...

New Lara looks rather different:

I've heard, but haven't seen her yet. Looks rather.... realistic. I like it. May be the first Tomb Raider I ever play.

[ThePwener]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

DoA is Japaneese. You do relaise how patriarchal their society is?

Yeah, I thought so....

How about them apples!



I know, I know, also Japanese. But the dev who created her was actually mad that she was held as a video game sex symbol and that hentai was made of her BEFORE the gme even came out.

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[LiquidLogic2020]

Im not quite sure what op is getting at, they have kept the female option in despite the low number of people actually using it and your some how offended?

[ThePwener]

LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

Im not quite sure what op is getting at, they have kept the female option in despite the low number of people actually using it and your some how offended?

It's the BSN, they'll get they're panties tangled for ANYTHING. We're here for either damage control... or make things worse. This time is the latter.

[Kusy]

Gaming was always a man's thing. Don't take this as an insult ladies but it has it's history technological advancment was a man's thing due to the still quite patriarchal society model we had for the most part of human history, this whole emancipation idea is pretty new to mankind. Back when computers started doing anything more than calculating numbers they were still a man's thing. When games started to be games it was still a man's thing. And since it was a man's thing games were aimed at man because woman were still viewed as sandwich and children providers and were raised as such by their you could say opressed mothers. Few decades ago any kind of entertainment was dominated by men, men hunted for sport, man stabbet eachother with sharp things for sport, men started to hit balls with a stick for sport.

Since video games were made by men, for men, they were bought only by men. Once you start doing something like this it's hard to stop because your market by defaulut is made of men... so to be sure you get money you have to hit at your market, so you make a manly game for men, so your market is made of even more men. Change will come eventualy, but gaming industry still wants you to make them a sandwich.

Before you bother to report my post as insulting, I have not once stated that I think it's right. It's pure sociology and history.

[The Twilight God]

musicalfrog7 wrote...

As an avid female gamer, I am surprisingly hurt by this. The video does not show what the context is but when it is haphazardly thrown into a video like that, what am I to think? It sounds like such a strong disregard to the female fandom. I've thought for a long while, that Bioware cared more about the female fanbase than any other developer out there. Is that not true? Is it not true anymore?

Did you seriously think the amount of players choosing to play as a female would be comparable to those playing as a male character in a predominately male market? The official percentage is 18% of Shepards are femsheps. Personally, that's more than I would have guessed. I'm more surprised that 60% of players play the run of the mill soldier class over the Vanguard or Sentinel.

The fact that Bioware would devote the resources to female and s/s romances, give the smaller playerbase interested in those avenues (especailly s/s), would lend more to the notion that they care more about minorities demographics, not less. 

[shepskisaac]

Icinix wrote...

Just wouldn't use it to dis-regard someones comment though.

Agree on that.

ThePwener wrote...

I've heard, but haven't seen her yet. Looks rather.... realistic. I like it. May be the first Tomb Raider I ever play.

Very realistic - www.youtube.com/watch It's a reboot of the entire franchise. I would say they really downplayed the sex appeal aspect almost completly, yet at the same time no one will say Lara's ugly or not attractive to male audience.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 01 août 2011 - 10:25 .

[oracle343gspark]

ThePwener wrote...

oracle343gspark wrote...

You know Birdo is a dude?

Wait... what?

Yeah it says in the manual for Super Mario Bros. 2. Yoshi is in love with Birdo, which makes them both gay.

Modifié par oracle343gspark, 01 août 2011 - 10:26 .

[ThePwener]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

men started to hit balls with a stick for sport.

[ThePwener]

oracle343gspark wrote...

Yeah it says in the manual for Super Mario Bros. 2. Yoshi is in love with Birdo, which makes them both gay.

[Kusy]

The Twilight God wrote...

musicalfrog7 wrote...
As an avid female gamer, I am surprisingly hurt by this. The video does not show what the context is but when it is haphazardly thrown into a video like that, what am I to think? It sounds like such a strong disregard to the female fandom. I've thought for a long while, that Bioware cared more about the female fanbase than any other developer out there. Is that not true? Is it not true anymore?

Did you seriously think the amount of players choosing to play as a female would be comparable to those playing as a male character in a predominately male market? The official percentage is 18% of Shepards are femsheps. Personally, that's more than I would have guessed. I'm more surprised that 60% of players play the run of the mill soldier class over the Vanguard or Sentinel.
The fact that Bioware would devote the resources to female and s/s romances, give the smaller playerbase interested in those avenues (especailly s/s), would lend more to the notion that they care more about minorities demographics, not less. 

99% of female characters in MMO games are played by men. Why would you think it's diffrent with single player games?