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For DA3, if Bioware had to choose between a having a voiced protagonist and allowing the player to choose the race of his character, what would you prefer?


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edeheusch

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I have seen some polls (and topics) asking if the players would prefer to have a voiced or silent protagonist and some polls (and topics) asking if the players would prefer to be able to chose the race of their character or not. Generally, the majority went for the voiced protagonist and the chose the race, unfortunately to have both system at the same time it would require to record many voice sets (6 to allow the choice between 3 races and 2 sex like in DAO) and I doubt that any studio would invest enough money in an RPG for that (unless they completely rush the rest of the game to reduce the costs).

So I would really like to know what would prefer most of the payers if they cannot have everything.
As it is not possible to allow multiple choices in a poll on the BSN I have made 2 polls, if you like both options that allow race choice equally you can vote for "I like 2 of the 3 option equally (and I will vote for the 3rd one in the other poll)" in the poll about your Preferred combination of voice system and race choice and vote for "Voiced protagonist and no race choice (like in DA2)" in the poll about your Least favourite combination of voice system and race choice.

The polls are here:
Preferred combination of voice system and race choice: http://social.biowar...47/polls/22875/
Least favourite combination of voice system and race choice: http://social.biowar...47/polls/22876/


Edit:
Some other users have made related polls without mixing race choice and voice/silent protagonist. 
You can vote for your choice between Voiced and Silent protagonist HERE
You can vote for your choice between having a predetermined character or having option in term of character HERE (the poll is written to bias the result in favour of the predefined character but it should not prevent you for voting for what you consider to be the best option if you have tried both in the DA franchise).

Modifié par edeheusch, 25 août 2011 - 06:49 .


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SkittlesKat96

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I reckon Bioware should keep the nonvoiced protagonist (but maybe without the race choice) problem is they seem way too afraid that they'll 'lose their large casual audience' or something.

I'm just afraid they would rather make money and get a massive audience than make a good game, DA 2 should have been way less mediocre =/

EDIT: Not saying race choice is bad, they could still do it in some games, same with the voiced protagonist I suppose...

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Now that is a toughy... I would love to play an elf with these new elf models but I also like the voiced main character.
I think I would go for the race choise then, they can add more talk encounters to your companions insted then =)

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I woulld much rather have race-choice but even if it came down to voiced with fewer options or non voiced with a ton of options i would choose the second option. Voiced characters just dont matter to me.

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Voice. With a ton of race choices the story gets watered down to a point where the race doesn't matter beyond personal aestethic preferences.

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I'll admit: I preferred having a voiced protagonist just because it made party banter pretty enjoyable!

I don't mind if it was all the same voice with different races, but I'm sure people would have issues that their character doesn't sound like they imagined them to? It's hard to get a happy medium with these things.

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I'd prefer to have multiple race origins with just the one voice. Say all the origins grew up in the same city (Val Royeaux?) so they all have the same accent and it can be written off that they have the same voice despite racial selection being present. They could still have pretty diverse Origin stories in different parts of a city if they do a better job making it feel like a city than some other cities they've done...

(of course, there are other means by which they could contrive it-- Seekers raising orphans from birth, memory wiped like Fenris, raised by wolves, etc)

If I understand correctly that they won't budge on the matter of it being voiced and they won't budge on the race selection issue if it means 8-10 protagonist voice actors because that wouldn't be economically viable, this seems like the only way to have voice and race selection, and I like both of those.

Modifié par Filament, 02 août 2011 - 09:56 .


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Filament wrote...

(well of course, there are other means by which they could contrive it-- Seekers raising orphans from birth, memory wiped like Fenris, raised by wolves, etc)


Now that last one is a DA protagonist origin I'd like to see. :D

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^ Why wolves, let us make The Ethereal Writer Redux happy and the protagonist is raised by gorillas.
And then lets give him the special ability to summon one to his side.

On topic: Yeah, silent & race-choices, please.

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Voiced. It would be terrible if DA2 was the entirety of Hawke's story.
If we're equating DA:O to DA3, then I lean more towards mixed race with one voice actor like Filament mentioned above. Some of the forum people would freak out though, because it would be more evidence of "Dragon Effect."

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It's cool that the question is put in this way, because it at least recognizes that it is a choice between different things. But I'm not sure the choice need to be exactly that. It is technically possible to get many voices from one. You can even get male and female voices, from either, or even child voices. A single voice acting can be reprocessed according to a players choice. A PC will do this in realtime. A console won't, but it doesn't have to since the voices can be processed ahead.
What you can't get is of course different accents or attitudes. The expression remains with the actor. And in terms of how appropriate it would be to have different races vary in such regards, existing technology won't help. But there is a great deal of possibility to make a voiced protagonist more personal to the player than Bioware have explored for awhile.

That still doesn't help one other central problem though, which is that someone looking for a role play game will always baulk when faced with a watch-story RPG. (And those others won't even have a clue to what we're talking about then, ever.)

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Both. I dont see why we couldnt have both. Spend extra, make a fantastic game with a lot of choice and you get all that money back. I know i told most my friends not to buy DA2 but to get DAO insted.

I dont see why we cant have more options on the voice so all your Hawke dont sound the same and you end up feeling like that character isnt your own and isnt as unique as your warden is.

I also think their should be a n option for you to chose if you want to play a character who isnt voiced. All about the choices people. Its what we need

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Since I don't need a voiced protagonist (it won't match to what I believe my character would really sound like anyways), I'd go for the race choice.

What bEVEsthda said is true though.

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rabbitor wrote...

Voice. With a ton of race choices the story gets watered down to a point where the race doesn't matter beyond personal aestethic preferences.


...plus if everyone else in the game is going to have a voice, I want the protagonist to have a voice too.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 02 août 2011 - 12:19 .


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Hire a few VAs who can do different voices and then have races.

It could be done, though it would take a lot of work to find those VAs. It's hard enough finding 1 VA who can do different voices.

Well.... maybe it's not that hard. Yuri Lowenthal has done various voices. Not that I'm saying Yuri Lowenthal should be one of those VAs.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Hire a few VAs who can do different voices and then have races.

It could be done, though it would take a lot of work to find those VAs. It's hard enough finding 1 VA who can do different voices.


It costs more money to have them do that, and takes up way more disc space.

Mark Meer and Nicholas Boulton both do a lot of different sounding voices.  It's not as if they are not capable, it's just not efficient.

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Having a voice is fine, but when it comes down to a choice between race choice and voice, my answer is choice every time.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Hire a few VAs who can do different voices and then have races.

It could be done, though it would take a lot of work to find those VAs. It's hard enough finding 1 VA who can do different voices.


It costs more money to have them do that, and takes up way more disc space.

Mark Meer and Nicholas Boulton both do a lot of different sounding voices.  It's not as if they are not capable, it's just not efficient.


well there goes that idea...

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Tirfan wrote...

^ Why wolves, let us make The Ethereal Writer Redux happy and the protagonist is raised by gorillas.
And then lets give him the special ability to summon one to his side.

On topic: Yeah, silent & race-choices, please.



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SoulRebel_1979

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Multiple race options, no contest.

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To bEVEsthda's comment about voice modulation to account for different races, this kind of alteration would still take up a huge amount of disc space, either to have a program that can do this or to have six different voice tracks for an entire game altered this way.

Not to say it could not be done, or that, a la ME2, the next Dragon Age game couldn't be sent out in multiple discs, but that is one of the obstacles. The formula needs tweaking, for sure, but its a matter of what they can afford and what they can change without ticking off their audience more than they already have.

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Multiple race options by far. My all time favorite RPGs had no voiced protagonist, I don't know why I would find it so hard to stomach now.

But if they do bring back multiple races, I hope they have more race specific quests and story.

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Aaleel wrote...

Multiple race options by far. My all time favorite RPGs had no voiced protagonist, I don't know why I would find it so hard to stomach now.

But if they do bring back multiple races, I hope they have more race specific quests and story.



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Voiced no race choice because I don't the same voice for each race would work. The ideal would be voiced and race selection with a different voice for each race either through audio manipulation of 1 VA or through multiple voice actors.

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Aaleel wrote...

Multiple race options by far. My all time favorite RPGs had no voiced protagonist, I don't know why I would find it so hard to stomach now.

But if they do bring back multiple races, I hope they have more race specific quests and story.


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