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So... Blonde FemShep for the win. Huh.


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So only ugly girls have personality and depth?, only ugly girls can be heros? You cant be pretty and successfully? You cant be pretty and be anything more then a dumb throphy wife? Thanks for throwing women back 50years.

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So its on page 21 now and exactly the same stuff is happening as on page 1.

Nice to see this thread is moving forwards...

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LPPrince wrote...


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Again, looking at that, I don't see it. It being how Blondie can't be taken seriously as Commander Shepard.

Its like people are complaining for the sake of complaining.


That's just hilarious mate!

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Captain Crash wrote...

So its on page 21 now and exactly the same stuff is happening as on page 1.

Nice to see this thread is moving forwards...


No it isn't.









Now it is:

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The disquieting thing about this backlash towards the now default FemShep is how comfortable people are with expressing their prejudice towards people with certain physical features. That has a name, one loaded with negative connotations.

For my money, the blond FemShep, who is the closest to my own Shepard, looks the least done up and the most natural. I choose her for that reason.

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I chose her because she's beautiful but all the femsheps were beautiful she mainly got picked because of the tousled hair. Blonde had nothing to do with it if she had been a redhead with the tousled hair I would have chosen her I really like the I don't gove a crap but am still beautiful hairstyle. Sure I know its shallow but femshep is my ideal of perfect regardless of haircolor. For the record I have played a blonde renegade and she was NOT at all barbie like - other than being a hot blonde.

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I'm only annoyed because blonde hair should by all rights be extremely rare 200 years into the future.

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I don't mind the blonde Shep.

TBH I'm having a hard time coming up with many existing blonde action heroines...except for Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I guess Supergirl :P, brunette or black seems to be the stereotypical 'tough girl' image. So while I understand the disappointment about a white/blonde chick as the covergirl, I do actually think it's nice to see a blonde action heroine for a change. Blondes are more associated with glamour and fashion than kicking ass.

(Disclaimer: Poster is brunette and is simply pleased just to see some fem!Shep marketing.)

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Mesina2 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...


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Again, looking at that, I don't see it. It being how Blondie can't be taken seriously as Commander Shepard.

Its like people are complaining for the sake of complaining.


That's just hilarious mate!


i honestly dont see why people hate blonde femshep. shes the exact same character throughout the trilogy. The exact same character as the other 5 candidates during the votes. While I would've rather had an updated default plainjane femshep update, its not the end of the world.

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Blonde = Shallow, dumb, pornstar barbie.

Derrrrrrp.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous you look when you say stuff like that? Are you not being incredibly shallow and 'blonde' yourself? The idea that people only chose her because she is blonde is so far off the mark. People made that selection because out of the all the options on the table, she looked the most 'undone' - She isn't made up in any way at all. The hair is naturally flowing and messy; she doesn't have lots of make-up on. She looks as if she's about to go into battle. Besides, people have already said that they would have chosen her 'model' even if she'd had different colour hair, so any argument you think you have is flawed from the outset.

If this was about skin colour, people would be throwing a fit and crying racism. Funny how hair colour gets completely overlooked, even though the attitudes a lot of you have are just as offensive.

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Shadow of Light Dragon wrote...

I don't mind the blonde Shep.

TBH I'm having a hard time coming up with many existing blonde action heroines...except for Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I guess Supergirl :P, brunette or black seems to be the stereotypical 'tough girl' image. So while I understand the disappointment about a white/blonde chick as the covergirl, I do actually think it's nice to see a blonde action heroine for a change. Blondes are more associated with glamour and fashion than kicking ass.

(Disclaimer: Poster is brunette and is simply pleased just to see some fem!Shep marketing.)



That's because there aren't many. People are so stuck up with the idea that a blonde is a stereotype and represent lack of intelligence and a Barbie generation. When a blonde is in fact quite rare in today's games, and representing one of our first and most badass female protagonists we've had in video games, Samus Aran. But then the argument instead becomes that "we don't want another Samus Aran". Weird how one can't be beautiful and badass anymore. 

Personally I'd prefer that hairstyle with red hair, but I'm completely fine with the blonde. Besides. We haven't even seen the final version of her yet. As far as I'm concerned, that's just a stock image to show how she'd look like without the grime of war. I'm expecting some grime in the final version.

Modifié par PhatSeeJay, 03 août 2011 - 12:14 .


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Dj_atomica wrote...
I'm only annoyed because blonde hair should by all rights be extremely rare 200 years into the future.

That's a myth. Alleles for recessive traits will not become less prevalent because of outbreeding, not unless there is selection pressure against that trait. 

Suppose you have starting conditions with 100 million blondes in a population of 10 billion humans. If you match them randomly for a number of generations, you'll end up with 1 million blondes in 10 billion. That is comparatively rare, but
(a) it's not so ultra-rare that the appearance of a single blonde deserves special mention.
(B) It won't happen in 200 years. 2000 would be more like it.
© This presupposes that people won't engineer their children to have blond hair, which I find very likely.

Apart from that, I'm OK with blonde Shepard, though I'm still hoping that they take the haircut but recolor it red.

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DuckSoup wrote...

Blonde = Shallow, dumb, pornstar barbie.

Derrrrrrp.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous you look when you say stuff like that? Are you not being incredibly shallow and 'blonde' yourself? The idea that people only chose her because she is blonde is so far off the mark. People made that selection because out of the all the options on the table, she looked the most 'undone' - She isn't made up in any way at all. The hair is naturally flowing and messy; she doesn't have lots of make-up on. She looks as if she's about to go into battle. Besides, people have already said that they would have chosen her 'model' even if she'd had different colour hair, so any argument you think you have is flawed from the outset.

If this was about skin colour, people would be throwing a fit and crying racism. Funny how hair colour gets completely overlooked, even though the attitudes a lot of you have are just as offensive.


Nuff said.

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DuckSoup wrote...

Blonde = Shallow, dumb, pornstar barbie.

Derrrrrrp.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous you look when you say stuff like that? Are you not being incredibly shallow and 'blonde' yourself? The idea that people only chose her because she is blonde is so far off the mark. People made that selection because out of the all the options on the table, she looked the most 'undone' - She isn't made up in any way at all. The hair is naturally flowing and messy; she doesn't have lots of make-up on. She looks as if she's about to go into battle. Besides, people have already said that they would have chosen her 'model' even if she'd had different colour hair, so any argument you think you have is flawed from the outset.

If this was about skin colour, people would be throwing a fit and crying racism. Funny how hair colour gets completely overlooked, even though the attitudes a lot of you have are just as offensive.


There's a word for the attitude you describe. It's called jealousy

I hope Bioware advertises the game in the manner that will sell the maximum number of copies. I hope that as part of that campaign, they include images of a female Shepherd. It would be really lovely if she looks attractive and appealing to women players, not just men players.

Her appearance on the cover is largely irrelevant to me as, if I'm allowed to, I will change her to suit my tastes when and if I play the game.

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Number 5 is clearly the best one but what prevents her from being perfect like my femshep is not having red hair and green eyes. ^_^

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Dj_atomica wrote...
I'm only annoyed because blonde hair should by all rights be extremely rare 200 years into the future.

That's a myth. Alleles for recessive traits will not become less prevalent because of outbreeding, not unless there is selection pressure against that trait. 

Suppose you have starting conditions with 100 million blondes in a population of 10 billion humans. If you match them randomly for a number of generations, you'll end up with 1 million blondes in 10 billion. That is comparatively rare, but
(a) it's not so ultra-rare that the appearance of a single blonde deserves special mention.
(B) It won't happen in 200 years. 2000 would be more like it.
© This presupposes that people won't engineer their children to have blond hair, which I find very likely.

Apart from that, I'm OK with blonde Shepard, though I'm still hoping that they take the haircut but recolor it red.


I have a low tech word for you: peroxide. There are no alleles for blue hair in the human genome currently, but I see someone with it almost every day.

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Dj_atomica wrote...

I'm only annoyed because blonde hair should by all rights be extremely rare 200 years into the future.


Some articles on the blonde extinction myth http://www.snopes.co...ats/blondes.asp , http://science.howst...extinction1.htm

Modifié par Killer3000ad, 03 août 2011 - 12:35 .


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The mass effect universe is subject to extensive genetic engineering, As long as blonde hair is considered attractive it won't go out of bussiness. There shouldn't be many ugly people around as defined by the fashion of the 22th century.

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PhatSeeJay wrote...

People are so stuck up with the idea that a blonde is a stereotype and represent lack of intelligence and a Barbie generation. When a blonde is in fact quite rare in today's games, and representing one of our first and most badass female protagonists we've had in video games, Samus Aran. But then the argument instead becomes that "we don't want another Samus Aran". Weird how one can't be beautiful and badass anymore.


I'd never even heard of Samus Aran until today, when I went past Penny Arcade. :P

But anyway, there does still appear to be a lot of discrimation around. For that reason alone I'm glad #5 won. ;)

Personally I'd prefer that hairstyle with red hair, but I'm completely fine with the blonde. Besides. We haven't even seen the final version of her yet. As far as I'm concerned, that's just a stock image to show how she'd look like without the grime of war. I'm expecting some grime in the final version.


If I play ME3 I'd be creating my own Shep anyway, so the default hardly matters to me, but I do agree about the hairstyle, not the colour, being my favourite of those on display. Yeah, it's impractical, but so what? I like what I like.

Having that same style with red hair? That would have been awesome. I suspect if the redhead shep and blondie had switched hairstyles, red would have won easily.

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21 pages in a day?.

Did I miss something or is blonde the new boobs?.

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Seboist wrote...
Number 5 is clearly the best one but what prevents her from being perfect like my femshep is not having red hair and green eyes. ^_^

This. If we get #5 with red hair and green eyes I'm going to make an additional full replay with her.

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Good.

She was my favourite look, though i do wish she was a brunette, but thats easily changed ingame.

Now stop whining :)

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mousestalker wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Dj_atomica wrote...
I'm only annoyed because blonde hair should by all rights be extremely rare 200 years into the future.

That's a myth. Alleles for recessive traits will not become less prevalent because of outbreeding, not unless there is selection pressure against that trait. 

Suppose you have starting conditions with 100 million blondes in a population of 10 billion humans. If you match them randomly for a number of generations, you'll end up with 1 million blondes in 10 billion. That is comparatively rare, but
(a) it's not so ultra-rare that the appearance of a single blonde deserves special mention.
(B) It won't happen in 200 years. 2000 would be more like it.
© This presupposes that people won't engineer their children to have blond hair, which I find very likely.

Apart from that, I'm OK with blonde Shepard, though I'm still hoping that they take the haircut but recolor it red.


I have a low tech word for you: peroxide. There are no alleles for blue hair in the human genome currently, but I see someone with it almost every day.

LOL. Isn't it incredible how people can miss the point as completely as you just did. Next you're telling me black hair will be disappearing because everyone's going to color their hair blonde.

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LPPrince wrote...

Penny Arcade Blonde FemShep comic-
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haha :lol: nice one.

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As long as the Mako is not in Mass Effect 3, we wont have to worry about blonde fem shep getting critical mission failure from crashing every 10 mins.