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So... Blonde FemShep for the win. Huh.


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Aren't we supposed to get a femshep trailer? That's what I really want.

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Will a blonde FemShep accidentally hit the Big Red Button and blow up the Collectors with 1 second left on the clock? Doomsday clocks always stop at 1, right?  Image IPB


Not always.

For james Bond it stops at 0:07, for example ;)

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This is still rolling on???

*overdramatised yawn*

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*runs in* i like the bloude shepard!! theres nothing wrong with blondes *runs away*

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I'm more than happy for femshep's face being "pretty" (I voted for blondie) and I completely agree that femshep shouldn't have to have a jaw more manly than Jimmy Hill's in order to be taken seriously.  The main thing is that she's mentally strong and intelligent and has a physique that's built up enough in terms of strength, muscular endurance and agility to meet or surpass N7 requirements (I think they nailed that with the armor physique but not necessarily with some of the out-of-armor models); but her face, hair, makeup and girliness outside of that is another thing.  Now I know some people might be against the implication that you need an impressive physique to be a hero, and that this may be seen as an example of masculanising a female hero to be taken seriously, but in the case of Shepard, she obviously has to meet whatever the requirements are for an N7 soldier (she has to lug around quite heavy equipment for extended periods of time, and potentially fight large aliens in hand-to-hand combat, etc.). 


Lots of very physically strong people, male and female, aren't particularly bulky though. Lean muscle works just fine in that regard. FemShep should not lose her muscle tone, and suddenly have a body like Witcher 2's Triss. I would balk at that myself. I'm just talking about her choice of hairstyle and facial appearance. FemShep can be "girly" without losing her edge, and in fact it can enhance her edge. And a strong, toned woman can be every bit as feminine as a soft curvy Playmate, if not more so. 


I agree and I'm one of them; I do strength training myself so I have some understanding of the difference between training a muscle for maximum strength (which doesn't necessarily mean significantly more volumous muscles) vs. training a muscle for maximum hypertrophy (which I believe involves more of a balance between strength and endurance and results in noticeably more volumous muscles).  Having said that, I imagine Shep doesn't only train her muscles for strength; I imagine she does a combination of strength/endurance training (but only takes that to a point that's useful to her) and muscular endurance training (i.e. running around with moderate weight all day - say, 20-30kg like the SAS).  EDIT: She's a cyborg, so a lot of what I've just said is pointless >.<

In any case, I wasn't suggesting Femshep should be "bulky"...  I'm saying her physique should reflect whatever the requirements are for an N7 soldier - as I say, I think they succeeded in doing that with her armor model (to me her physque there looked bulky enough, lean enough and agile enough, and overall balanced enough without going to any extremes) but I do think some of the out-of-armor models were inconsistent with that (the medical one and the dress one, in particular, look way too waif-like to me).  It's not a particularly big deal though - I mean, I kinda suspend disbelief when I see how her physique is different from one casual outfit to the next!

Anyway, like I said, "her face, hair, makeup and girliness" are seperate from how physically/mentally strong she should be, so I was agreeing with you that those things shouldn't have to be masculine, and that's certainly something I'm fighting for as well.  Sorry you though I was aiming my post at you, specifically - I was just joining in with the discussion everyone seemed to be having.

Modifié par AwesomeName, 08 août 2011 - 07:05 .


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AwesomeName wrote...

 Having said that, I imagine Shep doesn't only train her muscles for strength; I imagine she does a combination of strength/endurance training (but only takes that to a point that's useful to her) and muscular endurance training (i.e. running around with moderate weight all day - say, 20-30kg like the SAS).


Well, Shepard is cybernetically enhanced too, so ultimately you can't make any real judgements about strength just by looking at size. Some of those muscle tendons are not natural, after all.

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SalsaDMA wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

 Having said that, I imagine Shep doesn't only train her muscles for strength; I imagine she does a combination of strength/endurance training (but only takes that to a point that's useful to her) and muscular endurance training (i.e. running around with moderate weight all day - say, 20-30kg like the SAS).


Well, Shepard is cybernetically enhanced too, so ultimately you can't make any real judgements about strength just by looking at size. Some of those muscle tendons are not natural, after all.


That's a fair point! Editing my original post now.

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I'm a blonde bimbo girl, in the fantasy world
Dress me up, make it tight, I'm your dolly
You're my doll, rock'n'roll, feel the glamour in pink,
kiss me here, touch me there, hanky panky...
You can touch, you can play, if you say: "I'm always yours"

I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic!
you can brush my hair, undress me everywhere
Imagination, life is your creation...

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DuckSoup wrote...

I'm a blonde bimbo girl, in the fantasy world
Dress me up, make it tight, I'm your dolly
You're my doll, rock'n'roll, feel the glamour in pink,
kiss me here, touch me there, hanky panky...
You can touch, you can play, if you say: "I'm always yours"

I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic!
you can brush my hair, undress me everywhere
Imagination, life is your creation...


Oh no you didn't! :D

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AwesomeName wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

I'm a blonde bimbo girl, in the fantasy world
Dress me up, make it tight, I'm your dolly
You're my doll, rock'n'roll, feel the glamour in pink,
kiss me here, touch me there, hanky panky...
You can touch, you can play, if you say: "I'm always yours"

I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic!
you can brush my hair, undress me everywhere
Imagination, life is your creation...


Oh no you didn't! :D


Well this can hardly be a serious discussion thread, can it? :P

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Aren't we supposed to get a femshep trailer? That's what I really want.


Good question... Are they still taking in votes for Femshep?  I can't wait to see a full trailer like the Blur stuff done for ME2.

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DuckSoup wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

I'm a blonde bimbo girl, in the fantasy world
Dress me up, make it tight, I'm your dolly
You're my doll, rock'n'roll, feel the glamour in pink,
kiss me here, touch me there, hanky panky...
You can touch, you can play, if you say: "I'm always yours"

I'm a barbie girl, in the barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic!
you can brush my hair, undress me everywhere
Imagination, life is your creation...


Oh no you didn't! :D


Well this can hardly be a serious discussion thread, can it? :P


You've just transported me back to every bad disco I attended at secondary school :pinched:

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*does Victory dance to 'Sweet like Chocolate' by Shanks & Bigfoot*

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NOOOOOOOOO!!! I actually remember these, it's horrible!

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If we actually get a blonde femshep, I'll be amazed, given the crazy anti blonde rage. And there is no lack of blonde haters on this site. I mean, there's a kind of fervent burn-in-hell anti blonde hate. It scares me. :?

Modifié par slimgrin, 08 août 2011 - 07:56 .


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#3 was my favorite and if I could get the face code for her, then I really don't care that the blonde one ran away with the vote.

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SalsaDMA wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

 Having said that, I imagine Shep doesn't only train her muscles for strength; I imagine she does a combination of strength/endurance training (but only takes that to a point that's useful to her) and muscular endurance training (i.e. running around with moderate weight all day - say, 20-30kg like the SAS).


Well, Shepard is cybernetically enhanced too, so ultimately you can't make any real judgements about strength just by looking at size. Some of those muscle tendons are not natural, after all.


She wasn't when she went through training.

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Dragon XIX wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
@Dragon XIX I really wish I can buy Collector Edition and rub both Sheploo and Blonde FemShep to your face.

English isn't your strong suit, is it?

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I prefere the rounder facial structure of pic4 with the hairstyle of pic5,
would look good in black, hopefuly all these things are possible via
the character creator, no hate for blonde here, couldn't care less.

Image IPB

Modifié par Pedestrial, 08 août 2011 - 08:45 .


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slimgrin wrote...

If we actually get a blonde femshep, I'll be amazed, given the crazy anti blonde rage. And there is no lack of blonde haters on this site. I mean, there's a kind of fervent burn-in-hell anti blonde hate. It scares me. :?


"Only good blonde, is a dead blonde..." 
*spit*

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The JoeMan wrote...

She wasn't when she went through training.


Maybe not cybernetically but genetically. All Alliance personnel (especially special forces) are given Alliance packages containing genetic augmentations.

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well, my femshep looks better than those

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Td1984 wrote...

#3 was my favorite and if I could get the face code for her, then I really don't care that the blonde one ran away with the vote.


Me to. I like #3 the most out of all of them. Part of the reason is because she lookedl like my infiltrator character and the other reason is because she looks more military and badass out of the rest.

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Siansonea II wrote...

Nice to see Barbie Shepard is still wreaking havoc wherever she goes.


Barbie Shepard.  Wreaking havoc.

Warlord Okeer likes this part.  It has weight.


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Blondy wasn't my favorite choice from the poll, but you know what? People are going way over the top with the drama. So I added a banner to my sig.

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Pedestrial wrote...
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I generally consider spelling mistakes to be less of an evil, and don't call people out on it because it would make me sound stupid. :whistle:

Pedestrial wrote...

I prefere the rounder facial structure of pic4 with the hairstyle of pic5,
would look good in black, hopefuly all these things are possible via
the character creator
, no hate for blonde here, couldn't care less.

Image IPB


This is very unlikely as Bioware will now focus on the one face.


Fata Morgana wrote...

Blondy wasn't my favorite choice from the poll, but you know what? People are going way over the top with the drama. So I added a banner to my sig.


I wasn't planning to make a sig against her, but you know what?  You people sicken me, so I went ahead and made one.

Modifié par Dragon XIX, 08 août 2011 - 11:02 .