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[AdmiralCheez]

Bah. It's just box art and a few trailers.

So long as those swingin' new hairstyles are available in-game, color me a happy Cheez.

[Toxicity02]

Portman should have won. I dig chicks with short hair. And 47 pages of this?

[Pulletlamer]

This still going?

Jeez.

Blondes win. Deal with it. End of matter.

Modifié par Pulletlamer, 08 août 2011 - 11:23 .

[Inspectre]

Pulletlamer wrote...

This still going?

Jeez.

Blondes win. Deal with it. End of matter.

This is how we're dealing with it.

Or do you mean accept it/suck it up?

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Bah. It's just box art and a few trailers.

I doubt that they would go through all this trouble for just a few trailers and box art.

Modifié par Dragon XIX, 08 août 2011 - 11:32 .

[Rockworm503]

Dragon XIX wrote...

Pedestrial wrote...
classic

I generally consider spelling mistakes to be less of an evil, and don't call people out on it because it would make me sound stupid.

Pedestrial wrote...

I prefere the rounder facial structure of pic4 with the hairstyle of pic5,
would look good in black, hopefuly all these things are possible via
the character creator, no hate for blonde here, couldn't care less.

This is very unlikely as Bioware will now focus on the one face.

Fata Morgana wrote...

Blondy wasn't my favorite choice from the poll, but you know what? People are going way over the top with the drama. So I added a banner to my sig.

I wasn't planning to make a sig against her, but you know what?  You people sicken me, so I went ahead and made one.

Seriously?  You really think the character creator is going away and that blond shep will be mandatory?
Or am I reading that wrong?

[Fata Morgana]

Dragon XIX wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

Blondy wasn't my favorite choice from the poll, but you know what? People are going way over the top with the drama. So I added a banner to my sig.

I wasn't planning to make a sig against her, but you know what?  You people sicken me, so I went ahead and made one.

I can't tell if you're being ironic or not... your profile picture is of blondy. Did you maybe not notice the similarity? Or is having her as your profile pic somehow a strange way of protesting?

[Rockworm503]

Dragon XIX wrote...

Pulletlamer wrote...

This still going?

Jeez.

Blondes win. Deal with it. End of matter.

This is how we're dealing with it.

Or do you mean accept it/suck it up?

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Bah. It's just box art and a few trailers.

I doubt that they would go through all this trouble for just a few trailers and box art.

Deal with it by being a whiny baby who can't handle things not going your way... HURRAY FOR YOU!
Yea your right their going to scrap the character creator AND the save import feature and MAKE you play as blonde shep.  They even made a new class called Barbie where she fusses with her hair. HAHA I'm joking but I have this sick feeling that you honestly believe that.

[Fata Morgana]

Dragon XIX wrote...

This is very unlikely as Bioware will now focus on the one face.

This is quite incorrect. The new face will just be one of the presets (and all of the voted-on faces will be available as presets as well). The only reason to vote for your favorite is so that Bioware knows which face to put in the trailer and which to put on the box. That's it.

[Pulletlamer]

Dragon XIX wrote...

This is how we're dealing with it.

It seems you do not understand. I'll make it clear for you.

Or do you mean accept it/suck it up?

I mean THIS.

Oh and accepting it/sucking it up it's a valid option (if you wish), too.

You can hate all you want.

I don't care. Blonde won.

[Fata Morgana]

Here's an explanation of the meme.

I kind of wish someone would make the banner with sunglasses.

[Pedestrial]

Dragon XIX wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
@Dragon XIX I really wish I can buy Collector Edition and rub both Sheploo and
Blonde FemShep to your face.

English isn't your strong suit, is it?

Dragon XIX wrote...
It deeply affects me, weather or not it affects  you to any capacity.

Dragon XIX wrote...
I generally consider spelling mistakes to be less of an evil,
and don't call people out on it because it would make me sound stupid.

Concidering BSN has users from around the globe it's safe to assume
that English may not necessarily be everyones first language, so calling
users out on their sentence construct isn't great.
Typos, fair enough, but the whole "English isn't your strong suit, is it?"
followed by weather (meaning whether) I found amusing, sorry.

Dragon XIX wrote...
You people sicken me

Crikey

[Inspectre]

Fata Morgana wrote...

I can't tell if you're being ironic
or not... your profile picture is of blondy. Did you maybe not notice
the similarity? Or is having her as your profile pic somehow a strange
way of protesting?

It's not her, it's mine.  And I prefer to call the wannabe 'hoe'.
Is my sig not showing?

Rockworm503 wrote...

Deal with it by being a whiny baby who can't handle things not going your way... HURRAY FOR YOU!

Again, I don't understand.  I'm handling it my way, by fighting.  Why is that unreasonable?
Question for myself: Why do I care what you think, either?

Rockworm503 wrote...
Yea your right their going to scrap the character creator AND the save import feature and MAKE you play as blonde shep.  They even made a new class called Barbie where she fusses with her hair. HAHA I'm joking but I have this sick feeling that you honestly believe that.

I don't.  I guess I didn't make myself clear; I meant that the hoe will probably have a more detailed face and better hair model, like DA2's Hawke, that won't be available otherwise.  And that Bioware will not bother upgrading the others.

Fata Morgana wrote...

Here's an explanation of the meme.

Thank you, no one's ever had an explaination before.

[Fata Morgana]

Dragon XIX wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

I can't tell if you're being ironic
or not... your profile picture is of blondy. Did you maybe not notice
the similarity? Or is having her as your profile pic somehow a strange
way of protesting?

It's not her, it's mine.  And I prefer to call the wannabe 'hoe'.
Is my sig not showing?

Of course your sig is showing, but so is your profile picture. Thus the attempt at irony on your part.

I guess I don't understand why you would object to an official face that looks exactly like the face you created for your Shep. You don't like that the face you created is popular?  

[Inspectre]

Pedestrial wrote...

Concidering BSN has users from around the globe it's safe to assume
that English may not necessarily be everyones first language, so calling
users out on their sentence construct isn't great.
Typos, fair enough, but the whole "English isn't your strong suit, is it?"
followed by weather (meaning whether) I found amusing, sorry.

Year old edit: Pedestrial, if you ever see this, know that I haven't yet failed to use 'whether' correctly since your post. And for that, ty.

An admirable defense, but Mesina and I have a hate-hate relationship, so he dosen't need your help.
I once used a translator to help a newbie out on a forum I frequent, I don't make a habit of insulting others for their birth language.  Mesina has better grammer/sentence structure skills than that, so I laughed at him for it.

Fata Morgana wrote...
I guess I don't understand why you would object to an official face that looks exactly like the face you created for your Shep. You don't like that the face you created is popular?  

/snip

Thanks for trying to be a diplomat, but my shep is quite inferior.  That is why I'm against the wannabe, because she is like mine, only better.  I spent years refining her appearance, only to have Bioware step in and say "LUL what that? HeRe is good femshep".  I had such attachment to this character, but now I'd be stupid not to switch.

... nice shep, btw.

Modifié par Dragon XIX, 19 février 2013 - 07:30 .

[wicked117]

Dragon XIX wrote...

It's not her, it's mine.  And I prefer to call the wannabe 'hoe'.
Is my sig not showing?

 what are you 12 years old? Seriously calling a bunch of pixels a hoe? This Shepard is going to have all the same lines as .... well Shepard. And btw you are whining. .... a lot

[Pedestrial]

Dragon XIX wrote...

An admirable defense, but Mesina and I have a hate-hate relationship, so he dosen't need your help.
I once used a translator to help a newbie out on a forum I frequent, I don't make a habit of insulting others for their birth language.  Mesina has better grammer/sentence structure skills than that, so I laughed at him for it.

My humble apologies.

[1136342t54_]

Dragon XIX wrote...

I doubt that they would go through all this trouble for just a few trailers and box art.

No. They are going through all this trouble (Which isn't much) for the femshep fans mostly.

[Wynne]

slimgrin wrote...

If we actually get a blonde femshep, I'll be amazed, given the crazy anti blonde rage. And there is no lack of blonde haters on this site. I mean, there's a kind of fervent burn-in-hell anti blonde hate. It scares me. 

It's just a backlash from all the pro-blonde mentalities out there; if you got these people in a room with an actual nice blonde person, they would 99% of the time not act like bastards to them. It's just the fact that FemShep is a figure who's in the media, in a trailer and on the game box, which sort of sends the message "this is how it should be, this is the canon FemShep." But the article the OP linked to says it better:

There is a less vocal group of people saying that blondes aren’t
usually depicted as heroes, that they are usually are depicted as bimbos
or damsels in distress, which is also true, Metroid‘s Samus
aside. But then there’s also a greater group of cultures that aren’t
depicted at all, or when they are, they are also only ‘eye candy’.
Recall the last time you saw a strong, independent Asian, Hispanic,
Native American or woman of color in a video game. This contest was a
way to help get a minority out there, depicted in a positive light, and
instead lost to a classic example of “beauty”, who just by being born
blonde has often had an easier time in life on average than other women
(just look how easily her type won over the votes!)
It breaks my heart along with some of my fellow fans that though we
won the battle, we won’t win the war to get a unique, diverse,
respectable female character like the world has never seen before out
there. In the eyes of many, our victory to even get FemShep represented
has been marred by the fact that people will choose the standard of what
a woman “should look like”, over something different every time.

Holly Conrad's suggestion is also a lovely what-might-have-been: 

Since each Shep has a story, why not have fans submit a photo of their
Shep and a story? Boil down who their Shep is, why she's awesome. It
would both create fan engagement, as well as show the loyalty of the
fans. Then have people vote on that. It creates a story about Shepard,
not an image we just click on.

I've seen fan-made Shepards of all hair colors which I liked better than any of the posters, though I guess that would be too much trouble.

I don't think they're going to change the blonde hair despite the strong reactions. Sadly, I don't even expect they'll change her eyebrows or make her look the right age or give her a bit of extra muscle. I think #5 and indeed all the FemSheps would be less controversial/more appealing if they would go that route. She would look a lot less like the common Hollywood standard of beauty if she looked a bit more like a soldier in terms of body type. I know I'd feel a lot prouder to be a FemShep fan if the final version looked age-appropriate and strong enough to beat me in an arm-wrestling match, whatever her coloring.

Modifié par Wynne, 09 août 2011 - 02:00 .

[1136342t54_]

Wynne wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

If we actually get a blonde femshep, I'll be amazed, given the crazy anti blonde rage. And there is no lack of blonde haters on this site. I mean, there's a kind of fervent burn-in-hell anti blonde hate. It scares me. 

It's just a backlash from all the pro-blonde mentalities out there; if you got these people in a room with an actual nice blonde person, they would 99% of the time not act like bastards to them. It's just the fact that FemShep is a figure who's in the media, in a trailer and on the game box, which sort of sends the message "this is how it should be, this is the canon FemShep." But the article the OP linked to says it better:

There is a less vocal group of people saying that blondes aren’t
usually depicted as heroes, that they are usually are depicted as bimbos
or damsels in distress, which is also true, Metroid‘s Samus
aside. But then there’s also a greater group of cultures that aren’t
depicted at all, or when they are, they are also only ‘eye candy’.
Recall the last time you saw a strong, independent Asian, Hispanic,
Native American or woman of color in a video game. This contest was a
way to help get a minority out there, depicted in a positive light, and
instead lost to a classic example of “beauty”, who just by being born
blonde has often had an easier time in life on average than other women
(just look how easily her type won over the votes!)
It breaks my heart along with some of my fellow fans that though we
won the battle, we won’t win the war to get a unique, diverse,
respectable female character like the world has never seen before out
there. In the eyes of many, our victory to even get FemShep represented
has been marred by the fact that people will choose the standard of what
a woman “should look like”, over something different every time.

I can kind of understand where this person is coming from but whoever wrote this seems to have miss part of the point of the contest. The contest was to market Fem shep which a minority seemed to want. By saying its a loss because Shepard isn't a woman of color or isn't Asian is saddening to me really. A female shepard is a minority in itself. Female shepard is already strong, intelligent and beautiful woman usually no matter how you play the game. It may seem shallow for people to vote for some to vote #5 but its equally shallow to see a blonde female shepard as not good enough to market the character.

Holly Conrad's suggestion is also a lovely what-might-have-been: 

Since each Shep has a story, why not have fans submit a photo of their
Shep and a story? Boil down who their Shep is, why she's awesome. It
would both create fan engagement, as well as show the loyalty of the
fans. Then have people vote on that. It creates a story about Shepard,
not an image we just click on.

I've seen fan-made Shepards of all hair colors which I liked better than any of the posters, though I guess that would be too much trouble.

The problem with that is that most would chose their own shepard and the one who may get the most votes may even be assumed to be a canon fem shep. Why not assume that? Basically that shep has been given a specific back story which could be construed as canon. Even Male shep didn't get that much attention.

I don't think they're going to change the blonde hair despite the strong reactions. Sadly, I don't even expect they'll change her eyebrows or make her look the right age or give her a bit of extra muscle. I think #5 and indeed all the FemSheps would be less controversial/more appealing if they would go that route. She would look a lot less like the common Hollywood standard of beauty if she looked a bit more like a soldier in terms of body type. I know I'd feel a lot prouder to be a FemShep fan if the final version looked age-appropriate and strong enough to beat me in an arm-wrestling match, whatever her coloring.

I'm sorry but I just don't agree entirely with this especially with the hollywood standard for beauty. The body most fem sheps have is pretty average. Its nice to look at but in general fem sheps body looks kind of average and it seems she has some lean muscle even but I don't see her as a hollywood standard for beauty. Even her voice throws it off. I picked #3 since she looked similar to my shep and seems a bit more aggressive than the others. The blonde shepard appears that she could kick some ass and the only thing throwing others off is the fact that she is blonde. Even the face isn't to different from the others.

[1136342t54_]

Fata Morgana wrote...

Love the fem shep.

[Rockworm503]

LOL Dragon XIX's Shepard is jealous that is so cute.

[100k]

Hate to get technical here...but Asians, native Americans, hispanics, etc are all considered "women of color". I think the word you guys are looking for is black (woman)

[Fata Morgana]

1136342t54 wrote...

Fata Morgana wrote...

Love the fem shep.

I'm hesitant to explain the meme here, since linking to the 'deal with it' meme led to a sarcastic response.  But since people keep seemingly complimenting me on a shep that I didn't create (though her face does look pretty similar to the one I make, I just use shorter hair. Also unfortunate that you can't add glasses in the game), I feel that it is my duty: Hipster Mass Effect.

[1136342t54_]

I wasn't complimenting you I just said love the shepard.

[1136342t54_]

100k wrote...

Hate to get technical here...but Asians, native Americans, hispanics, etc are all considered "women of color". I think the word you guys are looking for is black (woman)

I used women of color in general to represent all minorities in Western nations (Since thats what assume the poster was referring to when mentioning diversity). I said Asians, native americans etc. to just be specific.