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[LPPrince]

So the problem is...

[Captain Crash]

Gabey5 wrote...

so what? the majority has spoken

Yep!

From the looks of things Bioware have no intention of altering any appearances. What you see is what you will get. If you want redhaired shep to win then you will have to vote for redhaired shep #2.  

http://twitter.com/#...680971129819136


Bioware can not get it 100% right for everyone.  I look up and already people are saying "I prefer this version of #5". They could be tweaking her forever if they take everyones opinions into consideration.  There is no middle ground when you ask for tiny tweaks like this.   They had to take a stand.  Be grateful you had the choice to begin with I say instead of having a default thrust upon you that potentially only a slim number of people liked.

Modifié par Captain Crash, 02 août 2011 - 04:46 .

[Fata Morgana]

Ophiskc wrote...

I'm getting tired of this whiny threads everywhere, i voted for #5 like most of people, BW and facebook poll have the same winning % for #5. Is call democracy

Blond hair people is almost extinct in ME world, makes sense that the biggest badass in the galaxy have something distinctive from the rest

Personally i would like that she looks more like this:


But nobody can get what they will wish for, so deal with it

Oh yeah, that's actually pretty good.

I'm less annoyed that she's blonde (though I think blonde is boring) than I am annoyed at the hair style. The one you've presented is better, but I prefer no hair in the face. The universe's greatest badass needs to be able to see her targets, please.

[Sylvianus]

O my god... Please, for the love of all us... stop talking about democracy as if it were equal to the code of silence for the minority.... It's getting pathetic. Democracy doesn't prevent to disagree, although a decision was made.

Why you do not ignore these complaints ? You are afraid that they do change their minds ?

Modifié par Sylvianus, 02 août 2011 - 04:49 .

[xJohnsen]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Create your own. Problem solved.

This.

My opinion: I don't care, I always play as the normal Shepard.

[marshalleck]

Pulletlamer wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

I'm getting tired of this whiny threads everywhere, i voted for #5 like most of people, BW and facebook poll have the same winning % for #5. Is call democracy

aka tyranny of the majority, or mob rule

I'm sorry but that's how the system works. The minority is not usually represented. That's why there's a votation so the majority wins. You can call it how you want.  It may be not be the perfect system but it's what we have.

Making a thread to complain about who's winning doesn't help, though. Don't you think?

I was only interested in rejecting the idea that "democracy" reduced to its most base form is automatically good and desirable. As for the content and topic of the thread, I already said earlier Shep5 doesn't bother me. It's much better than that stupid Rihana Shep with her hair all in her eyes. Though my preference was for Shep6.

Forums are here to discuss the game. That means what you like, and what you don't. OP is perfectly within their right to create the thread. If I don't like it, I don't have to read it. There are plenty of others to choose from.

Modifié par marshalleck, 02 août 2011 - 04:59 .

[Sylvianus]

What I do not understand is why those who are " the absolutists of democracy " do not they want a poll to ask about that hair color to choose for 5 ?

Many people could have voted for the long hair. Why not be sure that it is because she is blonde that majority of votes are for her ?

Why to be so intransigent you the spokespersons of democracy ?

Modifié par Sylvianus, 02 août 2011 - 04:59 .

[XyleJKH]

Love this look. Looks very much like my wife so its awesome. Valerie Shepard finally is the default or marketing shepard

[Ainmarh]

People with prejudices against pretty blonde people should really learn to deal with it. Because blonde-stupid-bimbo-Barbie crying is getting old.

[Captain Crash]

Sylvianus wrote...

What I do not understand is why those who are " the absolutists of democracy " do not they want a poll to ask about that hair color to choose for 5 ?

Read a couple posts up

http://social.biowar...18880/9#8020956


They cant tweak every single Shepard for everyones  individual opinion.  

Before you ask I voted for #2 by the way as I felt redhaired was more important then style of hair.   Something you have to compromise on as David Silvermans tweet points out.

Modifié par Captain Crash, 02 août 2011 - 05:07 .

[Chignon]

Ainmarh wrote...

People with prejudices against pretty blonde people should really learn to deal with it. Because blonde-stupid-bimbo-Barbie crying is getting old.

[Pulletlamer]

Sylvianus wrote...

What I do not understand is why those who are " the absolutists of democracy " do not they want a poll to ask about that hair color to choose for 5 ?

Many people could have voted for the long hair. Why not be sure that it is because she is blonde that majority of votes are for her ?

Why to be so intransigent you the spokespersons of democracy ?

Because Bioware did a poll with specific candidates. What you vote is what you get. Simple. If you prefered another hair color, don't vote #5.

Oh, but I want #5 with balck hair, or red. They're not going to do it, because it will take forever to take all the suggestions into account and to change the winner. If we start making polls for if which color we prefer, then what makeup we prefer, then what nose shape we prefer, then what eye color we prefer, etc etc it will be a waste of time (and resources) and in the end everyone won't get what they voted for since there will be 1000 options and no one will be happy.

Everyone has their tastes and their opinion. But if you prefer redheaded people over blonde, don't vote #5 expecting that they'll change it.

To be fair asking for more polls seems another weak excuse for not saying you don't like the one is winning, nor can't accept it's the one the majority have voted for.

Modifié par Pulletlamer, 02 août 2011 - 05:09 .

[didymos1120]

We need a new word for this phenomenon. I vote for "antiblondite".

[Aristorum]

Honestly, I couldn't give two ****s about what color her hair was. What bothered me was her hairstyle. Something shorter or something pulled back would've just made more sense to me. The last thing Shepard needs is to suffer a gunshot because her hair got in her face.

[Chignon]

didymos1120 wrote...

We need a new word for this phenomenon. I vote for "antiblondite".

Anti-blondism? Blonde-phobia?

[NamiraWilhelm]

Blondists!

[KainrycKarr]

For the record, I'm a blonde male, and even I'm sick of seeing everyone being blonde in games, movies, and media. So Idk about that whole oppression, bitterness thing being the driving force behind the argument....I can only speak for myself, but I'm just tired of seeing it, that's all.

[KainrycKarr]

Ainmarh wrote...

People with prejudices against pretty blonde people should really learn to deal with it. Because blonde-stupid-bimbo-Barbie crying is getting old.

Prejudice against blonde people.....oh for the love of god lol.

[NightAntilli]

I think most people went for the blonde solely because of the hair style... It wouldn't matter which color it was. To my taste, blonde is the least suited color for such an iconic character, they could've at least made it dirty blonde, but meh.. It is what it is.

[DevilYoko]

NightAntilli wrote...

I think most people went for the blonde solely because of the hair style... It wouldn't matter which color it was. To my taste, blonde is the least suited color for such an iconic character, they could've at least made it dirty blonde, but meh.. It is what it is.

I did go for her hair style and face and I don't mind the color really....

[SNascimento]

Deal with it.

[Wynne]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Facial hair is often darker than the hair on the top of the head.

Yes, but platinum does not go with black. Real facial hair/head hair combos have a sense of subtlety; they're at least within a few shades, not bordering on being polar opposites to each other.

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Pretty much every ethnicity has been
oppressed and killed at one point in history. However, this should not
have any kind of influence on the design of a VIDEO GAME CHARACTER.
The idea is laughable.

I think ancient history is beside the point. Recent history tells a different story, unless there's a blonde holocaust within the last hundred years you'd like to enlighten me about. I'd find that interesting, if extremely surprising.

There's actually no logical reason why this shouldn't have an influence. Entertainment has, however unwittingly, encouraged steroid use, plastic surgery, and all other manner of unhealthy things. Yes, there is such a thing as personal responsibility, and I'd hardly advocate forcing change as it is not only unethical but doesn't work, but it's just a bit too convenient to blame the victims, as if the entertainment industry was powerless to improve the state of affairs.

The subtle "blondes are better" mentality doesn't exactly make North America look progressive to the rest of the world. You can find plenty of exceptions, sure, but it's still there, an ugly undercurrent--and from both angles, since blondes are no dumber by nature than any other hair color either.

A courageous and unique option--which we didn't see presented--would've been a Middle Eastern-looking Shepard. Controversial, maybe, but it would have been a positive vision of the future after the wars between the nations of Earth ended and women all over the world were liberated, which showcases what makes the ME series different from others. It's too bad they didn't go that route.

Pulletlamer wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Many
people could have voted for the long hair. Why not be sure that it is
because she is blonde that majority of votes are for her ?

Why to be so intransigent you the spokespersons of democracy ?

Because Bioware did a poll with specific candidates. What you vote is what you get. Simple. If you prefered another hair color, don't vote #5.

When the selection isn't ideal, you go for the one you like best and ignore the flaws (or the things you don't care about, which probably represents the majority). There's no reason to believe that, considering the fact that roughly every 4 out of 5 comments on the facebook page for #5 said "this is awesome, but her hair should be red (or black)," blonde was actually preferred. Earlier polls (discussed on David Silverman's twitter) which were about nothing more than eyes and hair gave us a redhead with green eyes.

I've studied statistics enough to know that the blonde Shepard winning doesn't necessarily mean that those who voted for her wanted her to be blonde. Particularly since there was only one blonde option, and a redhead who almost didn't look like a redhead at all. The choice they gave us seems... limited. It could have certainly been better.

[Zfazal84_]

Why did they even have to change femshep anyway? couldn't they have  just used the default femshep they already had? she looked fine.

Modifié par Zfazal84_, 02 août 2011 - 05:55 .

[Saberchic]

DevilYoko wrote...

NightAntilli wrote...

I think most people went for the blonde solely because of the hair style... It wouldn't matter which color it was. To my taste, blonde is the least suited color for such an iconic character, they could've at least made it dirty blonde, but meh.. It is what it is.

I did go for her hair style and face and I don't mind the color really....

^This.

I'm tired of the "femShep needs to have short hair or have it pulled back." I like long hair, and I like seeing it free.
The color of the hair didn't really matter to me although I would have prefered it to be brown.

The other pic that the OP wanted looks too emo. It's terrible and covers half her face.