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[Sabariel]

So, if I were to touch Fenris, what exactly would his tattoos feel like? Would they be like real world tattoos? Is it just... 'lyrium-ink' and the tattoos would have no texture? Or would they be smooth, like glass or polished stone? Or maybe... liquid? Like water? Would they be warm? Cold? Would they make your fingers all tingly? Would they give you lyrium-poisoning if you hung around Fenris too long?

[whykikyouwhy]

...this seems to be somewhat of a loaded question.

But, I would imagine that they would be raised versus flush to the skin. And would probably be cool to the touch, sort of like scar tissue. Maybe a bit warmer when he glows.

(and now I feel slightly dirty for answering this   )

[Sabariel]

I... am not seeing where 'dirty' comes into this, but okay!

Hmn, now I'm super curious if hanging around Fenris for too long would give you lyrium-poisoning....

[randomcheeses]

What I want to know is: why hasn't Fenris died of lyrium poisoning by now?

[Sabariel]

Perhaps whatever Danarius did to him made Fenris immune to the effects of lyrium.

[miskatonica]

 I imagine them to be colder than human body temperature, smooth and slightly raised on his skin (like, well, scars). The codex entry on lyrium says it causes burns and blisters, so if direct contact was how Fenris was exposed to it, it probably wouldn't be too dissimilar to a brand?

[nitefyre410]

The more like Brands than tatoos - he says his first memory was waking up branded with the lyrium.

Why he has not died of Lyrium poisioning as of yet... he has a Healing Factor what else. jk. I just find some commonalites between Logan and Fenris.

Though I think it was most like something that former master did to him to counter the affects.

[Torax]

Maybe they feel like florescent tubes. Just saying.

[xRiseAboveThis]

I agree with what everyone else said about them feeling like scars; however, I like the idea of them being smooth like glass. That would be pretty cool.

[Apathy1989]

From the way they look, it makes me assume they feel hard and are outside the body somewhat. Somewhere between bone or scar tissue perhaps.

Modifié par Apathy1989, 02 août 2011 - 04:44 .

[Ineffable Igor]

As far as the lyrium poisoning goes, I'm sure Danarius found some way to counter that.  Your bodyguard going insane sort of defeats the purpose of having one.  What I'm curious about is Fenris's hair and whether excessive lyrium exposure was what caused him to lose hair pigmentation.  I'm definitely thinking that's the case, mostly based on the mage concept art from Origins, the girl in that picture had white hair too.  She was also an elf, come to think of it.  Maybe it affects elves that way but not humans and that's why none of the templars we've seen have white hair?

[randomcheeses]

Ineffable Igor wrote...

As far as the lyrium poisoning goes, I'm sure Danarius found some way to counter that.  Your bodyguard going insane sort of defeats the purpose of having one.  What I'm curious about is Fenris's hair and whether excessive lyrium exposure was what caused him to lose hair pigmentation.  I'm definitely thinking that's the case, mostly based on the mage concept art from Origins, the girl in that picture had white hair too.  She was also an elf, come to think of it.  Maybe it affects elves that way but not humans and that's why none of the templars we've seen have white hair?

He probably didn't have white hair originally. He might have had red hair like Varania. Probably looked like an unusually lanky leprachaun.

[Ineffable Igor]

randomcheeses wrote...

Ineffable Igor wrote...

As far as the lyrium poisoning goes, I'm sure Danarius found some way to counter that.  Your bodyguard going insane sort of defeats the purpose of having one.  What I'm curious about is Fenris's hair and whether excessive lyrium exposure was what caused him to lose hair pigmentation.  I'm definitely thinking that's the case, mostly based on the mage concept art from Origins, the girl in that picture had white hair too.  She was also an elf, come to think of it.  Maybe it affects elves that way but not humans and that's why none of the templars we've seen have white hair?

He probably didn't have white hair originally. He might have had red hair like Varania. Probably looked like an unusually lanky leprachaun.

Yes, definite no on the naturally white hair.  Just doesn't happen.  I doubt the red hair though, since his eyebrows are so dark.  I actually wouldn't be surprised if Varania is only his half-sister, since he's so much darker skinned than she is.  The only features they really seem to have in common are their eyes and a vaguely similar facial structure.  For some reason I always pictured him with really dark brown hair.

And thanks, now I have Lanky Leprachaun Fenris dancing around in my head.  CANNOT UNSEE. 

[miskatonica]

Ineffable Igor wrote...

Yes, definite no on the naturally white hair.  Just doesn't happen.  I doubt the red hair though, since his eyebrows are so dark.  I actually wouldn't be surprised if Varania is only his half-sister, since he's so much darker skinned than she is.  The only features they really seem to have in common are their eyes and a vaguely similar facial structure.  For some reason I always pictured him with really dark brown hair.

And thanks, now I have Lanky Leprachaun Fenris dancing around in my head.  CANNOT UNSEE. 

Personally, I always found it amusing he had dark eyebrows and white hair, because if it WAS a side-effect from the lyrium, wouldn't it affect his eyebrows too? The mystery remains unsolved. 

[Ineffable Igor]

miskatonica wrote...

Ineffable Igor wrote...

Yes, definite no on the naturally white hair.  Just doesn't happen.  I doubt the red hair though, since his eyebrows are so dark.  I actually wouldn't be surprised if Varania is only his half-sister, since he's so much darker skinned than she is.  The only features they really seem to have in common are their eyes and a vaguely similar facial structure.  For some reason I always pictured him with really dark brown hair.

And thanks, now I have Lanky Leprachaun Fenris dancing around in my head.  CANNOT UNSEE. 

Personally, I always found it amusing he had dark eyebrows and white hair, because if it WAS a side-effect from the lyrium, wouldn't it affect his eyebrows too? The mystery remains unsolved. 

Not necessarily, lol:



Sort of depends on the person I guess.

[Sifr]

I've always imagined that lyrium is a somewhat cold material, so the burns are similar to ice-burns. I imagine Fenris' tattoos as being somewhat colder than the rest of his skin, and when he uses his abilities the temperature around him drops somewhat. No idea exactly why I picture it that way?

As for his hair, its entirely plausible the shock of being put through the lyrium branding process is what turned his hair white, sudden shock has been known to do that to people.

[EmbryMay]

I assumed that they'd been raised, and cold and smooth to touch - they look liquid and smoother then the rest of his skin, and I think I probably assumed cold because they're blue.

[Sealy]

I agree that they probably feel like brands, lightly raised, cool, and probably tingly. I am surprised Justice doesn't worship Fenris, since the poor thing is packed with 'singing' lyrium. I also thing he isn't addicted because of his mage blood. His sister and either his mother or father were mages I assume so even though like Carver he didn't inherit the magic he probably did inherit a resistance to lyrium. Thats my thought anywho.

Modifié par Fleshdress, 02 août 2011 - 11:43 .

[ReallyRue]

I always wondered whether mages could get some magical boost from his tats the same way they do with other lyrium. I imagine it would have been useful for Danarius if his bodyguard could give him power-ups when necessary.

[Sifr]

Which makes you wonder if this is a Tevinter attempt to create a "Magical Battery" similar to what Wilhelm was attempting with Shale and her Augmentation Crystals... the process and look seems very similar.

Modifié par Sifr1449, 04 août 2011 - 12:29 .

[Masako52]

I would wager that Shale and Fenris would get along swimmingly.... but then again, Fenris is a soft, squishy thing so who knows. Interesting, though, they both have a lot of similarities! Even right down to, though they are both initially unaware, they "volunteered" for their situation now. Though Fenris was a slave so you have to assume more coercion but still.

Concerning the white hair thing, it does make sense that it's not Fenris's "natural" hair color. But I think there is another young looking elf in the alienage that has white hair? It's possible that white hair is rare but still a possible hair pigmentation for elves? Still, the theory that it was the result of the experiment is more interesting.

I also wonder why Fenris hasn't reacted to lyrium poisoning. I'm just going to assume that was part of Danarius's experiment, and why Fenris was a successful candidate.

[nitefyre410]

Masako52 wrote...

I would wager that Shale and Fenris would get along swimmingly.... but then again, Fenris is a soft, squishy thing so who knows. Interesting, though, they both have a lot of similarities! Even right down to, though they are both initially unaware, they "volunteered" for their situation now. Though Fenris was a slave so you have to assume more coercion but still.

Concerning the white hair thing, it does make sense that it's not Fenris's "natural" hair color. But I think there is another young looking elf in the alienage that has white hair? It's possible that white hair is rare but still a possible hair pigmentation for elves? Still, the theory that it was the result of the experiment is more interesting.

I also wonder why Fenris hasn't reacted to lyrium poisoning. I'm just going to assume that was part of Danarius's experiment, and why Fenris was a successful candidate.

He has a Healing Factor  seriously  it will be releaved in  DA 3    


The common theory is  that had something do with him being a elf or  Danarius had a way to counter act it.   Though it would be nice twist if  the counter was not built in and  Fenris had to get a antidote from Danarious in order to survive

[SurelyForth]

Fleshdress wrote...

I agree that they probably feel like brands, lightly raised, cool, and probably tingly. I am surprised Justice doesn't worship Fenris, since the poor thing is packed with 'singing' lyrium. I also thing he isn't addicted because of his mage blood. His sister and either his mother or father were mages I assume so even though like Carver he didn't inherit the magic he probably did inherit a resistance to lyrium. Thats my thought anywho.

My guess as to why Justice doesn't worship Fenris is because the lyrium has been treated in such a way that it's not poisonous to Fenris or because it's being filtered through Anders and that distorts the "singing". Something has to be up with his tattoos, since everything we know about lyrium makes it seem like the last thing you'd want as a permanant fixture on your body.  A bit like coating oneself in mercury.

[Sialater]

SurelyForth wrote...

Fleshdress wrote...

I agree that they probably feel like brands, lightly raised, cool, and probably tingly. I am surprised Justice doesn't worship Fenris, since the poor thing is packed with 'singing' lyrium. I also thing he isn't addicted because of his mage blood. His sister and either his mother or father were mages I assume so even though like Carver he didn't inherit the magic he probably did inherit a resistance to lyrium. Thats my thought anywho.

My guess as to why Justice doesn't worship Fenris is because the lyrium has been treated in such a way that it's not poisonous to Fenris or because it's being filtered through Anders and that distorts the "singing". Something has to be up with his tattoos, since everything we know about lyrium makes it seem like the last thing you'd want as a permanant fixture on your body.  A bit like coating oneself in mercury.

Or... Justice does feel the pull and Anders hates it and that's one of the reasons for the friction between Anders and Fenris.

[Maria Caliban]

Like licking a york peppermint patty.