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[edeheusch]

I have already posted my topic in the DA2 section but the question is no more related to DA2 than to DAO so I post it here also (for the DAO fan that either did not buy DA2 but would potentially buy DA3 if Bioware do not make the same design decisions or did buy DA2 but frequent only the DAO forum).

I have seen some polls (and topics) asking if the players would prefer to have a voiced or silent protagonist and some polls (and topics) asking if the players would prefer to be able to chose the race of their character or not. Generally, the majority went for the voiced protagonist and the chose the race, unfortunately to have both system at the same time it would require to record many voice sets (6 to allow the choice between 3 races and 2 sex like in DAO) and I doubt that any studio would invest enough money in an RPG for that (unless they completely rush the rest of the game to reduce the costs).

So I would really like to know what would prefer most of the payers if they cannot have everything.
As it is not possible to allow multiple choices in a poll on the BSN I have made 2 polls, if you like both options that allow race choice equally you can vote for "I like 2 of the 3 option equally (and I will vote for the 3rd one in the other poll)" in the poll about your Preferred combination of voice system and race choice and vote for "Voiced protagonist and no race choice (like in DA2)" in the poll about your Least favourite combination of voice system and race choice.

The polls are here:
Preferred combination of voice system and race choice: http://social.biowar...47/polls/22875/
Least favourite combination of voice system and race choice http://social.biowar...47/polls/22876/


Edit:
Some other users have made related polls without mixing race choice and voice/silent protagonist. 
You can vote for your choice between Voiced and Silent protagonist HERE
You can vote for your choice between having a predetermined character or having option in term of character HERE (the poll is written to bias the result in favour of the predefined character but it should not prevent you for voting for what you consider to be the best option if you have tried both in the DA franchise).

Modifié par edeheusch, 25 août 2011 - 06:53 .

[jimbo32]

I don't think the two need to be mutually exclusive. Bioware could employ one male and one female voice actor who both use a neutral accent and have the same voices for all races.

If it had to be one or the other, I'd go with VO. Considering that all DA:O npc's are fully voiced, I found it pretty lame (and a little immersion-breaking) that the protagonist is silent. That was fine 15 years ago in titles like the Baldur's Gate series and the original Fallout games. Back then, it was the norm - fully voiced characters (whether PC's or NPC's) were unheard of.

I realize that not all DA fans like Mass Effect. There's no doubt that the ME games aren't pure RPG's, and I guess they aren't for everyone. But in my opinion, Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale add *so* much to the character and personality of Shepard. At the same time, having full VO in no way detracts from role-playing. When I play ME or ME2, I still feel like Shepard's conversation choices are *mine*.

This is coming from someone who's been playing RPG's longer than a lot of gamers have been alive. My favorite game of all-time is still BGII. But I think the days of silent RPG protagonists are pretty much over.

[Last Darkness]

Only Sith think in absolutes.

You obviusly dont consider you can do both quite easily.

[Mountain Man]

 I prefer not having a voiced main character for several reasons:

First, just from a usability perspective, it's annoying to read a line, select it, and then have to listen some actor read the line again.  And it's no good giving a hint of what the character is going to say (for instance, "Try to persuade the man to give you his sword") and then having the character spout something on his own (and perhaps saying something unexpected), which leads me to...

Secondly, I find RPGs much more immersive when I can become the main character and imagine what he sounds like, the quality of his voice, his inflections and vocal patterns, etc.  Giving my character his own voice apart from the one I imagine makes it so that I'm no longer the character immersed in the game world but merely a third-party spectator controlling a character.  Giving vague dialog choices and then having the character say something on his own only magnifies this problem.

So no voice for the main character in DA3, please, or at least make it optional.  Also, don't make it all crappy like DA2.

Modifié par Mountain Man, 03 août 2011 - 03:45 .

[CrimsonArgie]

Well, if I have to choose between those 2, I prefer the voiced characters. I have finished both ME1 and ME2, and now I'm playing Origins for the third time and I find the protagonist being silent pretty disappointing. After having played both ME, I realised that the voice adds a lot to the character personality. The one-voiced conversations are really annoying.

[Clonedzero]

Last Darkness wrote...

Only Sith think in absolutes.

You obviusly dont consider you can do both quite easily.

in a big huge RPG type game like i suspect DA3 would be, say having 3 races, humans, elves and dwarves as playable reaces.

1 human male voice.
1 human female voice.
1 dwarf male voice
1 dwarf female voice.
1 elf male voice
1 elf female voice.

thats ALOT of voicework and data. which is completely and utterly unnecessary. now you could say, well lets have one male voice and one female voice and use them for all races, well then your dwarf sounds too elfy or your elf sounds too dwarfy, ect. wouldnt sound right for most characters.

saying you can do both easily just shows your ignorance.

[nicethugbert]

Voiced protagonist wins it for me. It has personality.

[jimbo32]

Clonedzero wrote...

Last Darkness wrote...

Only Sith think in absolutes.

You obviusly dont consider you can do both quite easily.

in a big huge RPG type game like i suspect DA3 would be, say having 3 races, humans, elves and dwarves as playable reaces.

1 human male voice.
1 human female voice.
1 dwarf male voice
1 dwarf female voice.
1 elf male voice
1 elf female voice.

thats ALOT of voicework and data. which is completely and utterly unnecessary. now you could say, well lets have one male voice and one female voice and use them for all races, well then your dwarf sounds too elfy or your elf sounds too dwarfy, ect. wouldnt sound right for most characters.

1 Female Voice
1 Male Voice

Simple, isn't it? Why would it be necessary to record separate VO for each race and gender?

Modifié par jimbo32, 05 août 2011 - 03:05 .

[XCRmonger]

I like both. I like being able to choose a race... but I find my character standing there, awkwardly silent in the middle of dramatic or intense interactions rather... disconcerting. That's one thing I liked about DA2. My character spoke, and with a lot of personality. Kind of bummed there wasn't a race option in DA2. This is like asking me if I want butterscotch or mint chocolate chip icecream. I love them both, dammit

[CID-78]

beable to to choose race is more important then VO. giving me more dialogue options is more important then VO, heck everything in a game is more important then VO.

untilt the day we have software that can be setup to do a good VO, it's never going to be important imo. It's restricts the game parameters to much and happer the whole game development process.

[Dandynermite]

Having a voiced character means we aren't going to choose our character, we are going to get stuck with another stupid Hawke series. And also the character doesn't say what you want them to say in Dragon Age 2, stuff like to the chantry sister "I should kill you" in Origins that would have had (attack) next to it, but no because it's voiced she said something like "I'll be watching out for you" so no voice stuff sucks. Origins is a thousand times the game of Dragon Age 2, and as long as a voiced character is around, it will not ever be like Origins, but will be like DA2 and ME2. Because face it that is what EA are trying to do. "We got loads of money from ME2, lets make Dragon Age have the same dialogue etc, because ME fans will love that and buy the game, screw the original players".

And a dwarf, an elf and a human using the same voice is plain stupid. Just no, that would be worse than getting dumped with another Hawke

[Frolk]

Ideally, I'd like to choose my race and have a voiced protagonist with six potential VO options (one for each race and sex). I don't think that's impossible - it just means a slightly bigger budget and more development time.

Failing that, I'd go with the DA2 model where your choice of characters is limited. The unvoiced protagonist is a bit of an immersion breaker for me.

[smilayface92]

I would rather that the developers spend their time into making more areas and that the choices that we made in the previous games actually mean something instead of having a voiced character.

[Mike3207]

I'd choose voiced protagonist as long as it doesn't take away the ability to customize different classes or races. If it does, I'd settle for unvoiced.

[edeheusch]

I have edited my first post to include links to linked polls made by other users (that are relevant to DA3 so should not be more linked to DA2 than to DAO).


Some other users have made related polls without mixing race choice and voice/silent protagonist. 
You can vote for your choice between Voiced and Silent protagonist HERE
You can vote for your choice between having a predetermined character or having option in term of character HERE (the poll is written to bias the result in favour of the predefined character but it should not prevent you for voting for what you consider to be the best option if you have tried both in the DA franchise).

[Marvin_Arnold]

I find voiced protagonists irritating and contrary to the idea of RPG. The protagonist is always me. He has MY voice and MY personality. I know how to say my lines, and I don't need some random actor spelling things out for me!

[Goose4291]

I'd rather have the player character unvoiced so I could have a bit of variation on the race, much like origins.

[Marvin_Arnold]

I see silent leads by a narrow margin in above poll...

[Selene Moonsong]

I would easily trade voiced for more options, but it's not very likely to happen if we are still be playing Hawke,

[FaWa]

Race x100.

[Jennantar7]

Race, and any type of customization of the character is more important to me than VO or silent. I slightly prefer the silent protagonist as I find VO a tad immersion breaking.

[Twiiz]

Hmmm... To avoid voice acting issues Bioware could just edit the voice for each race, like how the Turian voices in Mass Effect are edited to sound cooler. e.g. Dwarf character voices are edited to be slightly deeper than other races

Modifié par Twiiz, 02 septembre 2011 - 11:34 .