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[Bullets McDeath]

Well, first of all, I'd like to self-congratulate this thread on being around/just over 1 year old! Never stop believin'

As long foretold and much delayed, here is a new, updated "Master List" for Dragon Age characters past that we may be seeing again in the near future...

Cullen



This fella seems to be on ALOT of people's minds. He's had a somewhat devoted/interested following since his first appearence in Origins and most were pleasantly surprised to see him again in DA2. Given the speculation about DA3's storyline being a full on global mage/templar conflict, I think he'd make a wonderful addition to the cast. We definitely need a compassionate Templar POV in that story, or they will seem even more obvious villians than they did in DA2.


Maraas



There' s got to be more to this guy. Otherwise his whole role in DA2 is much ado about nothing. I think it'd be great to have a Qunari companion again, and since Sten wouldn't necesarrily be available, Bioware should take advantage of this guy, since he's just sitting around with nothing to do. Another one I've got my fingers crossed for.


Stroud



I don' t think this guy needs any introduction or explanation. Hell yes. We need a TRUE Grey Warden companion (Anders SO does not count as a Warden) and this guy is just balls-to-the-wall awesome. Also, his mustache should count as it's own pet companion.



Cassandra Pentaghast



Some people feel strongly about her, apparently. She does have a last name, at least, which gives an edge, I suppose... they make her out to be quite a big deal in DA2, so it would be odd if she doesn't play SOME part in the story.


Charade Amell



Another outlier for me, but she does have her fans. However, if it means we'd be seeing Hawke again too... nvm..


So, those are the major contenders thus far...



(EDIT: Sorry the picture of Charade is so much larger, what can you do...)

Modifié par outlaworacle, 21 août 2012 - 12:27 .

[Faeryia]

outlaworacle wrote...

dcoolingdddcyyrdyf wrote...

Faeryia wrote...

Maybe, for DA3, a side-quest could be to acompany Alistair to the Deep Roads for his final battle? I'd really like that. In my mind it would be epic and dramatic. Since he is a Grey Warden he has an best-before date, right?

Imagine it, Alistair, aged and a little haggard perhaps, meeting wave after wave of darkspawn. And then a huge shadow falls over him. The camera pans out as he looks up and it's an ogre. Sword raised above his head he attacks it but he is wounded and tired and the Ogre kills him....*sniffles*

And with Alistair laying dead, his blood pooling around his crushed body the scene fades to black. Perhaps there could be a scene were we see Duncan greeting him on "the other side"?

Alistair is around 20 in DA:O and DA2 ends around 9/10 years after Origins, so by the time of DA3 Alistair would be no where near his calling, unkess DA3 is set 30 years after Origins.

Besides will Alistair even need to go on his callinig like other Wardens? Lets not forget Fiona is the first Warden ever not to go/ does not need to go on a calling so it might be in the blood.......

If, indeed, Fiona is really his mother. Which she clearly is. But it seems like the DA team don't want to elaborate any further on that point so I don't know that Alistair would be exempt from the Calling, if indeed that trait is even hereditary. It's only speculation from the expanded lore that could be construed as hinting at that, and there's surely nothing in the games as presented to set that up.

Fiona who??

I thought Alistair's mother was a servant-girl. 

Where do I find this extended lore? I'd love to read more of the DA world.

Also, don't need the Alistair's Calling quest anymore. I wrote it into a little story instead....my very first DA-fanfiction. I'm very proud.....lol

And I must say I like the list of possible companions in the previous post. Except for the Qunari... They are so not my favorites. Perhaps because I got on the wrong foot with Sten in DA: Origin from the start. Impossible creatures!

Modifié par Faeryia, 22 août 2012 - 08:40 .

[kellyofthemagi]

I can see this thread becoming much more popular in the days to come with so much anticipation of whats to come. From little tidbits we've got.

[wright1978]

AndrahilAdrian wrote...

Cassandra for sure. Maraas and Cullen Possibly. Everyone else will be new characters. Morrigan no chance, probably won't even be in the game.

Yep this.

[Faeryia]

PurebredCorn wrote...

Fiona is a mage/warden character from the books The Calling and Asunder. Fiona had an affair with Maric in The Calling.

Thank you. I thought for a moment that I'd missed a part of the game or something.

[Renmiri1]

I would love to have Sigrun in my party again. She is fun and skilled. Add Varric and make them have a dwarfmance 

Modifié par Renmiri1, 23 août 2012 - 01:50 .

[Faeryia]

What about Wynne's son? She mentions him during party banter with Alister. Do you think he'll show up in DA3?

[Milady]

I think Rhys has a high possibility to show up. He is afterall at the heart of the conflict during this mage-templar war. I think that Evangeline has also a good chance to appear. I thought she was a templar.. Read Asunder for more details.

[Orian Tabris]

Renmiri1 wrote...

I would love to have Sigrun in my party again. She is fun and skilled. Add Varric and make them have a dwarfmance 

Not gonna happen. No doubt his marriage with Felsi (epic, Felsi!), will last.

My guess, maybe if he's old enough, Nathaniel's nephew (as a Grey Warden) will be a companion. I like the idea of Stroud and Cassandra being companions, and chances are, Cassandra Pentaghast (decendant of the famed Nevarran Dragon Hunters) will be a companion (I sincerely hope so).

EDIT: Sigrun and Velanna both disappear according to the epilogue, so I would not be the least bit surprised if they become companions.

I would just LOVE to have Velanna back! <3<3<3

Modifié par Orian Tabris, 23 août 2012 - 09:24 .

[Renmiri1]

Faeryia wrote...

What about Wynne's son? She mentions him during party banter with Alister. Do you think he'll show up in DA3?

He is a 40+ year old adult in Asunder. He was an adult by the end of DAO when Wynne visited him right after the Archdemon died.

Modifié par Renmiri1, 23 août 2012 - 04:26 .

[Potato Cat]

If the rumours are true and we have 10 companions, and one is probably Cassandra, we have 9 others. With the amount of fangirls, I think Cullen has a strong chance of being promoted to companion. I'm also thinking we're going to get another Kossith, hopefully a female, but I won't hold my breath. So now we're down to 7 companions. Token Elf and token Dwarf means we're at 5. Unless filled by the Kossith and or the Elf, we'll need a healing mage and a damage dealing mage. With Morrigan's importance to the world, she could be the damage dealing mage companion. So we have about 3 wild cards, plus the Inquisitor.

[nightcobra]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Faeryia wrote...

What about Wynne's son? She mentions him during party banter with Alister. Do you think he'll show up in DA3?

He is a 40+ year old adult in Asunder.He was an adult by the end of DAO when Wynne visited him right after the Archdemon died.

either him (Rhys) or his lover Evangeline (also a templar knight captain) could be in DA3, maybe even as companions, a mage and a spirit warrior/templar.

would be refreshing to see a romance that doesn't pertain the main character but rather between 2 companions.
kinda like aveline and donnic...if donnic was also in the party. 

[New Kid]

I think someone said that Cullen's VA was in the recording studio for da3.

But i'm not so sure if thats true or not.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I still stand by my original prediction - With the cancellation of The Exalted March, I imagine we'll see Sebastian Vael again. His story is still left unfinished and there's opportunity for character growth and progression.

Yes yes, he's boring and preachy and goody goody.

I, personally, find his passion and his conflicted nature to be interesting, unique and appealing. So yes, I like Sebastian Vael and I still think, pray, hope, that he'll return in a future title as a fully fledged character and not some DLC tack-on waif.

Edit: I'm keeping this as short as i possibly can, because i imagine people are getting sick of my Sebastian Vael rants at this point.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 23 août 2012 - 03:35 .

[The Elder King]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

I still stand by my original prediction - With the cancellation of The Exalted March, I imagine we'll see Sebastian Vael again. His story is still left unfinished and there's opportunity for character growth and progression.

Yes yes, he's boring and preachy and goody goody.

I, personally, find his passion and his conflicted nature to be interesting, unique and appealing. So yes, I like Sebastian Vael and I still think, pray, hope, that he'll return in a future title as a fully fledged character and not some DLC tack-on waif.

Edit: I'm keeping this as short as i possibly can, because i imagine people are getting sick of my Sebastian Vael rants at this point.

I don't have anything against Sebastian, but I'd prefer if the companions in DA3 aren't former companions, or even characters that appeared in the past games. They greatly changed one former companion (Anders) and partially  changed one former characters (Merrill, though there wasn't much info in DAO about her).
Plus, I don't think that Sebastian's story is unfinished. It could be if you decided to spare Anders (since he wanted revenge), and this could not be important for the plot of DA3.
Anyway, whatever they'll decided, I hope they'll not put Sebastian, Cullen and Cassandra all together in the team. Having a Seeker, a Templar and a (depending on the choice) brother of the Chantry in the party seems too much for me.

[Welsh Inferno]

Bring back our Sten!

I kinda want a majority of new characters for companions. It doesn't hurt having one or two we've seen before but i'd just prefer to get to know new people.

I love Morrigan, Alistair and lots of the others but i'd rather they have important roles intertwined into the story than follow you around doing whatever.

Dave of Canada wrote...

I'd love Cullen, a conflicted mentally-scarred Templar which has doubts on both sides of the conflict and doesn't know where to place his loyalties?

Yes please.

Also this.

I know there is a lot of fangirlishness about Cullen on here but there is more to him than that. Could be a very interesting character if done correctly.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 23 août 2012 - 04:09 .

[Renmiri1]

Sebastian ? Had enough of his preachy ways already!

But why not ? As long as I get to have Anders, my own favorite who is also hated by 50% of the fan base, sure you can have Choir Boy. Just give me my Magey :wub:

Modifié par Renmiri1, 23 août 2012 - 04:29 .

[The Elder King]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Sebastian ? Had enough of his preachy ways already!

But why not ? As long as I get to have Anders, my own favorite who is also hated by 50% of the fan base, sure you can have Choir Boy. Just give me my Magey :wub:

Yeah, because Anders could work greatly in team with either Sebastian, Cullen or Cassandra. It's like asking Vernon Roche to work with Iorveth.
Plus, having a companion that only a part of the player can have is a thing I hate. I hated it in ME3 (even though they were alive in my playthrough), I'll hate it in DA3.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I don't think that Sebastian's story is unfinished.

It'll be for the best if we agree to disagree on this. I respect your opinion, but I have my own and I won't try to force it down your throat.

In regards to this:

Having a Seeker, a Templar and a (depending on the choice) brother of the Chantry in the party seems too much for me.

I would normally agree with this, I certainly wouldn't want three mages traipsing around with me so i can understand why you wouldn't want three pro-chantry zealots, but when it comes to Sebastian i'm honestly not sure I would agree, I think it would depend entirely on how they brought him back..

The thing with Sebastian is that there's a chance, a very high chance, that he would turn his back on the Chantry and, considering all the things he's been through and all the people he's lost, I doubt he's going to have the same unyielding devotion to the Maker that he had in Dragon Age 2.

Sebastian has lost everyone that he ever loved and everything that he ever knew has been stripped away from him. He has literally nothing left at this point and despite all his preaching in Dragon Age 2, he never really was *entirely* devoted to the Chantry. So it would be entirely possible, and completely acceptable, to bring Sebastian back without making him a Pro-Chantry Zealot.

Not saying he'd lose his faith, but at this point, he definitely wouldn't be the same Chantry devoted, Maker loving Choir Boy that he was in DA2.

So i'm sure you can understand why I would have problems thinking that Sebastian's inclusion would be 100% pro-chantry. There's a lot of variables in his personality and there's plausible ways for him to not be so Chantry-Central.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 23 août 2012 - 05:09 .

[Renmiri1]

@Sylvanpyxie - Interesting. I never got the idea that Sebastian could turn on the Chantry. You say there is a very high chance of it ? Why ?

@hhh89 - Anders / Cassandra or Anders Cullen would be awesome for the party banter. Imagine the bickering! Would be Anders / Carven x 100 

Modifié par Renmiri1, 23 août 2012 - 05:31 .

[The Elder King]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...


I would normally agree with this, I certainly wouldn't want three mages traipsing around with me so i can understand why you wouldn't want three pro-chantry zealots, but when it comes to Sebastian i'm honestly not sure I would agree, I think it would depend entirely on how they brought him back..

The thing with Sebastian is that there's a chance, a very high chance, that he would turn his back on the Chantry and, considering all the things he's been through and all the people he's lost, I doubt he's going to have the same unyielding devotion to the Maker that he had in Dragon Age 2.

Sebastian has lost everyone that he ever loved and everything that he ever knew has been stripped away from him. He has literally nothing left at this point and despite all his preaching in Dragon Age 2, he never really was *entirely* devoted to the Chantry. So it would be entirely possible, and completely acceptable, to bring Sebastian back without making him a Pro-Chantry Zealot.

Not saying he'd lose his faith, but at this point, he definitely wouldn't be the same Chantry devoted, Maker loving Choir Boy that he was in DA2.

So i'm sure you can understand why I would have problems thinking that Sebastian's inclusion would be 100% pro-chantry. There's a lot of variables in his personality and there's plausible ways for him to not be so Chantry-Central.

In this case, yeah, it would different from what I was thinking, and from how he was in DA2. I wouldn't have much problem in this case (just to explain, I'd have the same problem with three mages that are devoted to the mages's cause as Anders).

Renmiri1 wrote...


@hhh89 - Anders / Cassandra or
Anders Cullen would be awesome for the party banter. Imagine the
bickering! Would be Anders / Carven x 100 [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]

Do you mean Carver?
Anyway, I don't think the banter would be awesome. I don't think that there could be conversation between them. The situation is even worse of the one between Anders and Fenris, expecially with Sebastian. They could never work with Anders. I doubt that you'll find a Templar or a Seeker willing to work with Anders.

[Sylvanpyxie]

@Sylvanpyxie - Interesting. I never got the idea that Sebastian could turn on the Chantry. You say there is a very high chance of it ? Why ?

The biggest problem is that people tend to view Sebastian as a devoted man of the Chantry and define his character by his faith alone, but in actuality Sebastian's defining characteristic is his conflicted nature, he wants to be a devoted Chantry Brother but his nature is constantly driving him against the Chantry's teachings.

Sebastian is a passionate character and his passion often overrules his faith. There are multiple events in-game that prove he never truly devoted himself to the service of the Chantry. In fact, through-out the entire game he's constantly struggling between who he wants to be (Devoted Brother) and who he is (a good person but ultimately free from the Chantry's teachings).


The best example of how his passion overrides his faith is, in fact, the very first quest you get involving Sebastian: The moment he discovered his family had been murdered, his passion consumed him and he turned his back on the Chantry's teachings. He went against the expressed wishes of the Grand Cleric and hired someone to hunt down the murderers and bring them to justice.

The only thing that ever actually had Sebastian returning to the Chantry is the Grand Cleric Elthina, who was like a mother to Sebastian. By the end of Dragon Age 2, she's dead and once again Sebastian's passion overrides his faith and he ignores the teachings of the Chantry, calling for the death of Elthina's murderer.

Sebastian himself says through-out the entire game that he's "uncertain" where he belongs, he even prays to the Maker on a regular basis asking for a sign to guide him.

That's three examples of how (not really) devoted Sebastian is to life as a Chantry Brother.

As for what would eventually drive him to leave the Chantry, the death of the only remaining loved one in his life seems a good enough reason to me, as I said before, Elthina was pretty much the only thing keeping Sebastian in the Chantry and she's dead by the end of Dragon Age 2. It's not much of a leap to believe he would ultimately abandon it once she was gone.

As for his devotion to the Maker... Sebastian will always believe in the Maker, I don't doubt that for a second and neither should anyone else, but after the events of Kirkwall I find it hard to believe that Sebastian would be "devoted" for much longer, especially considering his reaction to Elthina's death.

Sebastian isn't as simple as "Devoted Chantry Brother", there's a hell of a lot more to his character than that and quite frankly he has so much complexity for Bioware to build on that he doesn't need to return as the "Goody Goody Choir Boy" cliché that everyone has labelled him with. There are multiple out-comes for the character, both in story and in personality, and it would be entirely possible to fit him into a future title without making him a Chantry Zealot.

[Jerrybnsn]

PurebredCorn wrote...

Fiona is a mage/warden character from the books The Calling and Asunder. Fiona had an affair with Maric in The Calling.

I wouldn't call it an affair.  More like a moment in the Deep Roads.

[Renmiri1]

Ya, I meant Carver.

And I'm not so sure people would refuse to work with Anders. He is hardly the first murderer among the companions! Leliana worked with Sten who had murdered an entire family, including children and never denied it. Alistair worked withe Zevran and even bedded Morrigan. Nathaniel, Justice and Anders worked with Verdana who had spent months tearing humans limb from limb in a gruesome way, to "avenge her sister". . Of all murderers / companions, Verdana probably killed the most. Unless Zevran is as good as he says he is  Or Leliana was a very active bard / spy.

The only person I can see refusing to work with Anders is Sebastian.

@Sylvanpyxie - I see what you are saying, it makes sense. Although Eltina's death can make Sebastian feel guilty for not committing 100% to the chantry and feeling responsible for not stopping Anders... Guilt could drive him to be a Chantry Zealot or to leave the Chantry, don't you think ?

Modifié par Renmiri1, 24 août 2012 - 01:57 .