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#101
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I'm coming out in defense of Treehouse again. I don't get why so many people are getting their butts hurt about this.

Lets look at some numbers shall we? From everything I can find, Mass Effect 2, in it's first week of release sold 2 million copies. The lowest whole life estimate I can find is 2.47 million copies... I think we can all agree that that's probably under the actual number of sales. If not, it's still almost 2 and a half million copies. These previous run standard of 500 meant that .0202% of fans got a lithograph. With the new increase to 800, and assuming a sell out, now only .0324% of fans are getting a lithograph. In the age of "limited edition" strategy guides with print runs in the mid to high 5 figures, can you really still complain about this?

I think we should all be grateful they haven't increased the print run to 10,000 and advertised the lithos on the Cerberus network. They could also go the route of charging for digital art that is essentially framed screenshots. Our nice artbooks could be digital art books. I know the small print runs are attractive for some people, but I have a feeling if Treehouse jacked the price up to $200 a litho and decreased the run to 100, these same people would be complaining. Bioware doesn't answer to us, they answer to our wallets. I hear a lot of people saying they will sit this out, but that typically turns into those people caving eventually. If you really want to get your point out, vote with your wallet. That is what's really going to get Bioware/Treehouse to listen.

In the mean time, I don't see any problem with an 800 run lithograph. THBS could easily incentivize early purchases too by actually following through on the order number - litho number correlation that we've been promised in the past. I'm still going to get these, I just would be more likely to get one if I felt assured of getting a low number.


Valve has sold over 4 million copies of portal and over 3 million of portal 2 those number not being completely accurate since there have been steam sales since and they still only have 100-200 copies of each signed litho. Not exactly fair to compare anything to valve but just because. I also would like to think about the artists hand, how annoying is it to sign the same thing 800 times. Or even try Ubisoft and assassin's creed. They easily have sold millions of copies of each game and they only have 60 of some lithos and 399 ezio lithos (by Craig Mullins no less).
I can see both sides of the argument easily but I can also see what other big name companies are doing and have experinced even years of comic con and their limited stuff. They don't make more and increase the price they just keep turning out the same numbers and if you get one fantastic if you don't well better luck next time. I know I have missed out on alot of that stuff. Even When Tali and Miranda first came out. I managed to get them on the second chance. I missed the normandy sr-2 and illusive man. But hey I got mini's so it is ok, it all worked out.

#102
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I did get another order in successfully with a different card... but we'll see if they charge me for three. Sigh, here goes another PM to ms Domino

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I have 733.

#104
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Tugga_gott wrote...

I have 733.


i went 0_o thinking that you just had 733 lithos............XD

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But early order doesn't mean low number, my Archangel is number #86 but I ordered it when it was 19 lithos left...

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Hotter cakes than I thought.

#107
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antique_nova wrote...

TheKingBoar wrote...

Did anyone else get an immediate email saying their order was canceled despite it being a success? Not sure what to think... unless I got one CC number wrong. A different CC got the right email... but damn, I had one at xxx721 then now it is xxx754... Will be sad if they actually give first come first numbers now...


they do.
i got a xxx713 :D



Mine is xxx711 :D

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62 left! Looks like the morning batch is going to be the fastest selling one as usual.

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Tugga_gott wrote...

But early order doesn't mean low number, my Archangel is number #86 but I ordered it when it was 19 lithos left...


This was a random occurance, or it should be. Domino did once tell us order 1 gets litho 1, order 2 gets litho 2 and so on. But Archangel definitely wasnt like this so im not sure if theyre still doing it.

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SniperREX wrote...

antique_nova wrote...

TheKingBoar wrote...

Did anyone else get an immediate email saying their order was canceled despite it being a success? Not sure what to think... unless I got one CC number wrong. A different CC got the right email... but damn, I had one at xxx721 then now it is xxx754... Will be sad if they actually give first come first numbers now...


they do.
i got a xxx713 :D



Mine is xxx711 :D


damn you! i had to put in my CSC number, after it was already saved into my profile..................

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TheKingBoar

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antique_nova wrote...

TheKingBoar wrote...

Did anyone else get an immediate email saying their order was canceled despite it being a success? Not sure what to think... unless I got one CC number wrong. A different CC got the right email... but damn, I had one at xxx721 then now it is xxx754... Will be sad if they actually give first come first numbers now...


they do.
i got a xxx713 :D


They have said this before... but then it's fairly clear that that didn't happen with Archangel/The Team. If they actually do it this time, then awesome, if they don't.... well then it's sad panda time.

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

TheKingBoar wrote...

Did
anyone else get an immediate email saying their order was canceled
despite it being a success? Not sure what to think... unless I got one
CC number wrong. A different CC got the right email... but damn, I had
one at xxx721 then now it is xxx754... Will be sad if they actually give
first come first numbers now...


oh does that number show you your order, like in the queue? I had no idea, mines 720


It's a logical assumption, it wouldn't make sense or be efficient to handout order numbers at random. Not knowing their implementation, who knows... but that's what I would expect.

Marksman_iza wrote...

Valve has sold over 4 million copies
of portal and over 3 million of portal 2 those number not being
completely accurate since there have been steam sales since and they
still only have 100-200 copies of each signed litho. Not exactly fair to
compare anything to valve but just because. I also would like to think
about the artists hand, how annoying is it to sign the same thing 800
times. Or even try Ubisoft and assassin's creed. They easily have sold
millions of copies of each game and they only have 60 of some lithos and
399 ezio lithos (by Craig Mullins no less).
I can see both sides of
the argument easily but I can also see what other big name companies are
doing and have experinced even years of comic con and their limited
stuff. They don't make more and increase the price they just keep
turning out the same numbers and if you get one fantastic if you don't
well better luck next time. I know I have missed out on alot of that
stuff. Even When Tali and Miranda first came out. I managed to get them
on the second chance. I missed the normandy sr-2 and illusive man. But
hey I got mini's so it is ok, it all worked out.


The thing about the Value/Ubisoft lithos is they cost a lot more than the Bioware ones do. They may not be increasing the price, but they're already so much more expensive. I suggested that that is the other alternative to increasing the runs, but I'm willing to bet my collection on what the reaction to that would be.


SniperREX wrote...
Mine is xxx711 :D


Jelous...

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47 left

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708. Here's hoping.

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Daveros wrote...

708. Here's hoping.

Great. you just made my day <_< and sniper's day:lol:

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antique_nova wrote...

Daveros wrote...

708. Here's hoping.

Great. you just made my day <_< and sniper's day:lol:

I didn't get out of bed at 2am for nothing. :P

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NewFoundTerror

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41 left, moving slower then I thought...

Modifié par NewFoundTerror, 05 août 2011 - 04:29 .


#117
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antique_nova wrote...

Daveros wrote...

708. Here's hoping.

Great. you just made my day <_< and sniper's day:lol:


I would be very happy about a single or double digit number :)

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I don't think I'll come close to my #5 Grunt/Thane/Tali, but I really do love the dead reaper one. Would love to be under 200.

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SniperREX wrote...

antique_nova wrote...

Daveros wrote...

708. Here's hoping.

Great. you just made my day <_< and sniper's day:lol:


I would be very happy about a single or double digit number :)


Lets hope they pull from the bottom...Image IPB

#120
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TheKingBoar wrote...

I don't think I'll come close to my #5 Grunt/Thane/Tali, but I really do love the dead reaper one. Would love to be under 200.


Mine is a 42# Archangel that i bought from the store - i am never selling it.

#121
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Still ordered...


Im hopeless :? :P

#122
Thargorichiban

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Well, the numbers went up recently so I think some people's orders got cancelled...

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The lowest number I've ever received was my #77 Team and I actually thought I should have gotten a lower number. I always order on the first release with seconds of it hitting the store and I've always received numbers in the 300's for my other lithos.

#124
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Captain Crash wrote...

Still ordered...


Im hopeless :? :P



Don't feel bad.  I did the same. :pinched:
I just liked the art too much.

#125
TheKingBoar

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Thargorichiban wrote...

Well, the numbers went up recently so I think some people's orders got cancelled...


You can probably thank my 2 cancelled orders for that...