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[DoomMech]

You know bioware, I can believe in ludicrous things. I can believe in people with mystic powers and swords made of lasers teaming up with artificially intelligent robots to fight space wizards. I can believe in dudes with giant armor and chainsaw guns battling subteranean aliens. I can believe that a scientist with no combat training and a hazmat suit can defeat a platoon of US marines and extra dimentional creatures.

BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A HARD SCI-FI UNIVERSE YOU CAN HAVE A "HOLOGRAHIC SWITCHBLADE"

IT JUST DOESN'T WORK!!!

I mean come on Bioware!

Just because somthing is cool, doesn't mean you should just throw it in, it harms the mythology and takes players out of the game, out of the universe you so painstakingly created.

Why not a regular wristmounted blade?
Why not a space age hidden blade?
Why not wolverine claws?
Why not a mass effect saber?



Just....Why?

[Praetor Knight]

All the Omni-blade needs is an additional piece on the forearm for the blade to rotate into and out of, and I'm good with the glowing and the Blade part.

[LiquidLogic2020]

Iv'e been looking at it as more of a nano blade type thing, with the omnitool projecting and forming it as they did with the mines in ME1.

[Pulletlamer]

But...but I thought holographic blades could exist:

[Fata Morgana]

I'm lol'ing that you think that 'swords made with lasers' are somehow more realistic than ominblades. Fail.

[Il Divo]

Mass Effect is hard sci-fi now?

I suspended my disbelief long enough to accept that giant millenia-old spaceships are coming to commit galactic genocide. I think I can extend that to wrist-mounted lightsabers as well, explanation or not.

Modifié par Il Divo, 03 août 2011 - 06:59 .

[Praetor Knight]

Pulletlamer wrote...




But...but I thought holographic blades could exist:

*snip*

Not a Hologram, and we're closer to that then I realized.

www.youtube.com/watch
(and the clip is in three parts.)

[bucyrus5000]

The ME team is trying to do melee while using their own intellectual property. If people find it so unrealistic as to drive them away from purchasing, then that is your right.

[themastakillah]

so are u saying that the sentinel armor is ok (holographic armor) and the omni blade's not?
why didnt nobody complained when they've first saw the sentinel power? it was cool right?
nowadays people complain too much about everyfuccing thing. close this thread.

[JediMaster_Murph]

haha, shep with wolverine claws, that would be awesome!!!

[MACharlie1]

Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....

[littlezack]

 BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A HARD SCI-FI UNIVERSE YOU CAN HAVE A "HOLOGRAHIC SWITCHBLADE"

Mass Effect is not, nor has it ever been, Hard SF.

[Praetor Knight]

As for the blade itself, we already have technology to make very sharpe ceramic blades, which are in a crystalline structure.

Now the Omni-blade can be categorized as ceramic, since it is being made from an allotrope of carbon, Diamond; and the blade edge has been described as being monomolecular, which is also possible. And ceramics can be clear / transparent so the Omni-blade could reflect the glow of the Omni-Tool hologram.


My only pet peeve with what we've seen so far, is assembling the blade for use, then disassembling the blade when done, I'd rather it be stored in the forearm between uses.

[Pzykozis]

Just to be slightly pedantic and I disgust myself by being so, but they're not holograms since it's impossible to have a solid hologram.

I just think of it as a nanite blade since the omni tool seems to have some sort of nanite style tech going on as well as a lot more but meh.

[oracle343gspark]

Doesn't the omnitool construct physical items out of omnigel or something?

[Merchant2006]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....

[Praetor Knight]

oracle343gspark wrote...

Doesn't the omnitool construct physical items out of omnigel or something?

Exactly, and ceramic is mentioned. in the codex entry.

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Codex/Technology#Omni-tool

[Travie]

I think its just a misunderstanding of the technology as described in the original codex.

The omni-tool itself was a small device with a holographic interface, basically you never saw the omnitool itself, just the holographic component.

Just a slight revision to the lore and a little explaining is all that is needed for most fans.

People like OP will have their immersion broken a bit, but the rest of us will love it.

EDIT: Also, most people don't realize that many classes will get their own version of the omni-blade punch.

Biotics, for example, will do a cool biotic punch that can be chained into a combo.

Modifié par Travie, 03 août 2011 - 07:18 .

[DoomMech]

Fata Morgana wrote...

I'm lol'ing that you think that 'swords made with lasers' are somehow more realistic than ominblades. Fail.

I'm rolling my eyes because you clearly misread my post. FAIL.

[littlezack]

Omni-Gel in ME1. End of story.

[Praetor Knight]

DoomMech wrote...

I'm rolling my eyes because you clearly misread my post. FAIL.

Umm... I reckon that Fata Morgana was responding to the post above hers not to your OP.



And more of us need to follow what we find in the game and dev comments!

[DoomMech]

Okay, okay, let me explain a little.

When I say that mass effect is "hard sci-fi" I mean that they take their time to explain the science behind FTL drives, infinite ammo, and this seemingly magic mass altering substance (although it does have characteristics of exotic matter). When they go through all this trouble to make the world internalily consistant, adding crazy stuff like the omniblade, glowing holo armor or the Shadow Broker's omnitool shield makes the world stop making sense.

As for the Reapers?

"Any sufficently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic" -Arthur C. Clarke


That and the blade looks stupid.

[DoomMech]

Travie wrote...

I think its just a misunderstanding of the technology as described in the original codex.

The omni-tool itself was a small device with a holographic interface, basically you never saw the omnitool itself, just the holographic component.

Just a slight revision to the lore and a little explaining is all that is needed for most fans.

People like OP will have their immersion broken a bit, but the rest of us will love it.

EDIT: Also, most people don't realize that many classes will get their own version of the omni-blade punch.

Biotics, for example, will do a cool biotic punch that can be chained into a combo.

Biotic Combos?
Biotic Combos.
BIOTIC COMBOS


Okay, that is awesome.

[Pulletlamer]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Pulletlamer wrote...




But...but I thought holographic blades could exist:

*snip*

Not a Hologram, and we're closer to that then I realized.

www.youtube.com/watch
(and the clip is in three parts.)

That was cool. I actually saw the 3 videos.

Still, it's not like we're not used as seeing type of tech like that on ME universe:





Also how I don't understand why people can't find beleivable that type of tech when there's BIOTICS everywhere in the ME universe.

People are like:

Biotics? Pft. I have those at home.

Omni-blades? FRIGGING UNBELEIVABLE!!! @$#?%! I QUIT!!!

Modifié par Pulletlamer, 03 août 2011 - 07:38 .

[DoomMech]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

As for the blade itself, we already have technology to make very sharpe ceramic blades, which are in a crystalline structure.

Now the Omni-blade can be categorized as ceramic, since it is being made from an allotrope of carbon, Diamond; and the blade edge has been described as being monomolecular, which is also possible. And ceramics can be clear / transparent so the Omni-blade could reflect the glow of the Omni-Tool hologram.


My only pet peeve with what we've seen so far, is assembling the blade for use, then disassembling the blade when done, I'd rather it be stored in the forearm between uses.

Okay, I'd buy that. Better be in the codex though.