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[Il Divo]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Il Divo wrote...
he codex always struck me as intended for flavor; it's the spice you add to the chicken to make it more tasty, but it can't stand for an entire meal.

But what if you don't like chicken?????

Hmm, in that case you probably wouldn't be playing Mass Effect.

The chicken is essentially the "heart" of the experience.

What if it smells like chicken, tastes like chicken, has the consistency like chicken, but ain't chicken?

Iakus, you want to field this one? I'm not sure I'm qualified.

Modifié par Il Divo, 05 août 2011 - 06:25 .

[Iakus]

Il Divo wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Il Divo wrote...
he codex always struck me as intended for flavor; it's the spice you add to the chicken to make it more tasty, but it can't stand for an entire meal.

But what if you don't like chicken?????

Hmm, in that case you probably wouldn't be playing Mass Effect.

The chicken is essentially the "heart" of the experience.

What if it smells like chicken, tastes like chicken, has the consistency like chicken, but ain't chicken?

Iakus, you want to field this one? I'm not sure I'm qualified.

Well then i'm thinking you're playing something along the lines of Silence of the Lambs: The RPG 

But my point with the orange juice and milk thing is, you may like the codex, and the extra depth it adds to the game world, as well as the story Mass Effect brings.  But when the two contradict each other, when the game world and the story no longer operate in sync, you get...a really bad flavor.

Fortunately for me I see no real conflict with the omniblade.  I just find the appearance aesthetically displeasing.  Could I get my juice in a clean glass, please?

[Thompson family]

On the original topic, I always thought it was kind of odd that future space warriors had nothing but their fists to use when some melee was needed.

[DoomMech]

Thompson family wrote...

On the original topic, I always thought it was kind of odd that future space warriors had nothing but their fists to use when some melee was needed.

But on the other side of things, you get Warhammer 40000, where future space warriors trundle into battle with chainsaw swords against cosmic death beasts.

While not having a knife up till now was kind of odd, I chalked it up to "we have weapons that can hit a target through a gale force cross wind. Why would we ever need to punch someone?"

And like I said in the original post, why can't we have logical, normal things like spiky fists, or a blade made of metal, or a retractable space chainsaw?

[Pups_of_war_76]

Eh.

I'm still somewhat confident that a sensible codex writer somewhere in the future will see reason and decide that it's something at least marginally more plausible, like a "plasma blade with a holographic interface", or a "monofilament blade whose presence is indicated by a holographic projection for safety reasons",

Marketing dorks can't be expected to know any better. 

Modifié par Pups_of_war_76, 05 août 2011 - 07:56 .

[Thompson family]

DoomMech wrote...


And like I said in the original post, why can't we have logical, normal things like spiky fists, or a blade made of metal, or a retractable space chainsaw?

I'm going to let that statement stand for itself.

[DoomMech]

Thompson family wrote...

DoomMech wrote...


And like I said in the original post, why can't we have logical, normal things like spiky fists, or a blade made of metal, or a retractable space chainsaw?

I'm going to let that statement stand for itself.

Why? You like?


(I was kidding about the chainsaw. But could you imagine?)

[LGTX]

DoomMech wrote...

Thompson family wrote...

DoomMech wrote...


And like I said in the original post, why can't we have logical, normal things like spiky fists, or a blade made of metal, or a retractable space chainsaw?

I'm going to let that statement stand for itself.

Why? You like?


(I was kidding about the chainsaw. But could you imagine?)

Now that would set off the Gears of War haters 

Seriously though. I'm thinking the omniblade won't be as widely-noted a feature in-game as we think, like it won't be shown in cutscenes or mentioned in dialogue. That way, completely optional. Roleplay, people 

[Ultimate_Kardas]

DoomMech wrote...

While not having a knife up till now was kind of odd, I chalked it up to "we have weapons that can hit a target through a gale force cross wind. Why would we ever need to punch someone?"

Well, say you're an infiltrator sniping, and an enemy sneaks up on you while you're scoped in. He gets right up to you, and since you don't have time to pull out your pistol, you just easily use an omniblade.

[DoomMech]

Ultimate_Kardas wrote...

DoomMech wrote...

While not having a knife up till now was kind of odd, I chalked it up to "we have weapons that can hit a target through a gale force cross wind. Why would we ever need to punch someone?"

Well, say you're an infiltrator sniping, and an enemy sneaks up on you while you're scoped in. He gets right up to you, and since you don't have time to pull out your pistol, you just easily use an omniblade.

Or ****slap him with your sniper rifle. But didn't Shepard show off his hand-to-hand combat skills in Arrival? He took out two armed and armored mooks at the same time, with bare hands, wearing nothing but Cerberus issued PJs! 

[JayhartRIC]

A sniper rifle is at least 3 feet long. If the enemy is already inside that range how can you shoot him?

[The Twilight God]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

DoomMech wrote...

Ultimate_Kardas wrote...

DoomMech wrote...

While not having a knife up till now was kind of odd, I chalked it up to "we have weapons that can hit a target through a gale force cross wind. Why would we ever need to punch someone?"

Well, say you're an infiltrator sniping, and an enemy sneaks up on you while you're scoped in. He gets right up to you, and since you don't have time to pull out your pistol, you just easily use an omniblade.

Or ****slap him with your sniper rifle. But didn't Shepard show off his hand-to-hand combat skills in Arrival? He took out two armed and armored mooks at the same time, with bare hands, wearing nothing but Cerberus issued PJs! 

Exactly. People think too complicated.

Hitting the enemy with an Omniblade or comparable would require you letting loose on the rifle -> that is time and destabilizing your balance (weight goes suddenly off, body needs time to catch up).
Then you'd need to get into a position where you could throw a good punch/stab -> balance issue and if not in the right stance, it goes either wrong or you sit on your arse after one blow -> not good.


In all that time, you could whack the enemy with your rifle and then shoot him once you got the barrel into his direction.

I'm more for combos if it's going to be a 1-hit kill.  The omniblade makes more sense as a stealth attack than a something you'd do in the middle of a firefight.

Rifle butt and then a good kick to the torso to knock them down. Then a carnage like special shot finisher - execution style.

Or a blade that protrodues from the tip like a bayonette or a blade that protrudes from the butt stock. Or both, making it a psuedo klingon bat'leth.

[JayhartRIC]

I don't see how a bayonet would even penetrate armor, anyway.

[Ja5ck]

gamer_girl wrote...

People if you're honestly that concerned with realism, you wouldn't be playing a science-fiction game, now would you? Honestly so much of Mass Effect goes beyond the limits of reality and you're complaining about a bloody sword. Point of this thread - there isn't one.

Exactly what I was about to post. physical holograms have been in the mass effect lore since the first game. I don't understand why this topic has to be revisited al the time on the forum.

Omni-gel? yeah, I suck at hacking anyways.
Teck\\h armor? wow what a neat feature for the sentinel!
Attack Drones? I named mine fido!
Omni-blade? WHAT THE @##%!&&*@!!??!?!!!? THIS IS SO UNREALISTIC AND AGAINST MAS EFFECT LORE!!!!

[The Twilight God]

JayhartRIC wrote...

I don't see how a bayonet would even penetrate armor, anyway.

The same way an omniblade penetrates armor, I guess.

[The Twilight God]

Ja5ck wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

People if you're honestly that concerned with realism, you wouldn't be playing a science-fiction game, now would you? Honestly so much of Mass Effect goes beyond the limits of reality and you're complaining about a bloody sword. Point of this thread - there isn't one.

Exactly what I was about to post. physical holograms have been in the mass effect lore since the first game. I don't understand why this topic has to be revisited al the time on the forum.

Omni-gel? yeah, I suck at hacking anyways.
Teckh armor? wow what a neat feature for the sentinel!
Attack Drones? I named mine fido!
Omni-blade? WHAT THE @##%!&&*@!!??!?!!!? THIS IS SO UNREALISTIC AND AGAINST MAS EFFECT LORE!!!!

The omniblade is the only "solid hologram" in the entire mass effect universe, which is why it has gotten so much sh*t.  It is a contradiction seeing has a hologram is by definition, not solid. The "every hologram in the game must be solid" argument has already been put to rest.

Modifié par The Twilight God, 06 août 2011 - 09:05 .

[didymos1120]

JayhartRIC wrote...

I don't see how a bayonet would even penetrate armor, anyway.

That'd depend on the composition the armor, composition of the blade, and what you count as "penetrate armor".  Does it have to go through the thickest, toughest part, or would striking at joints and other relatively lightly armored areas count?

[didymos1120]

LGTX wrote...
Seriously though. I'm thinking the omniblade won't be as widely-noted a feature in-game as we think, like it won't be shown in cutscenes or mentioned in dialogue.

I highly doubt that.  Aside from how much attention it's getting in the marketing, there's the fact that every class has one, even if they don't use it as part of their heavy melee.  That and I cannot see them not having omni-blade interrupts during some of the real-time cutscenes.

[Someone With Mass]

If the blade is a part of the omni-tool, Shepard can take it anywhere without being forced to wear gauntlets or armor.

I think it'd been pretty neat to use on a mission like Kasumi's loyalty mission.

[littlezack]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

JayhartRIC wrote...

A sniper rifle is at least 3 feet long. If the enemy is already inside that range how can you shoot him?

Exactly, at minimum three feet of solid material smashed into your face. Then either you topple backwards, or the other one takes two steps back and shoots you point blank.

Easy, efficient, effective. The three E's of warfare.

Yes. Because using the Sniper Rifle at close range is extremely reliable in the Mass Effect universe.

[DoomMech]

littlezack wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

JayhartRIC wrote...

A sniper rifle is at least 3 feet long. If the enemy is already inside that range how can you shoot him?

Exactly, at minimum three feet of solid material smashed into your face. Then either you topple backwards, or the other one takes two steps back and shoots you point blank.

Easy, efficient, effective. The three E's of warfare.

Yes. Because using the Sniper Rifle at close range is extremely reliable in the Mass Effect universe.

What? You never Viper spammed a guy at close range before?

[littlezack]

DoomMech wrote...

littlezack wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

JayhartRIC wrote...

A sniper rifle is at least 3 feet long. If the enemy is already inside that range how can you shoot him?

Exactly, at minimum three feet of solid material smashed into your face. Then either you topple backwards, or the other one takes two steps back and shoots you point blank.

Easy, efficient, effective. The three E's of warfare.

Yes. Because using the Sniper Rifle at close range is extremely reliable in the Mass Effect universe.

What? You never Viper spammed a guy at close range before? 

Seems like a dumb idea. It'll take a few shots for the Viper to kill him, if it can do the job at all, whereas a single hit from the Omniblade'll put them down, quick and clean.