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[MACharlie1]

DoomMech wrote...

Okay, okay, let me explain a little.

When I say that mass effect is "hard sci-fi" I mean that they take their time to explain the science behind FTL drives, infinite ammo, and this seemingly magic mass altering substance (although it does have characteristics of exotic matter). When they go through all this trouble to make the world internalily consistant, adding crazy stuff like the omniblade, glowing holo armor or the Shadow Broker's omnitool shield makes the world stop making sense.

As for the Reapers?

"Any sufficently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic" -Arthur C. Clarke


That and the blade looks stupid.

Nothing new here.

[oracle343gspark]

DoomMech wrote...

Okay, okay, let me explain a little.

When I say that mass effect is "hard sci-fi" I mean that they take their time to explain the science behind FTL drives, infinite ammo, and this seemingly magic mass altering substance (although it does have characteristics of exotic matter). When they go through all this trouble to make the world internalily consistant, adding crazy stuff like the omniblade, glowing holo armor or the Shadow Broker's omnitool shield makes the world stop making sense.

As for the Reapers?

"Any sufficently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic" -Arthur C. Clarke


That and the blade looks stupid.

So your making a fuss about omniblades ( which have been explained for you by responses to your post) when by using that quote, the whole Mass Effect universe could be viewed as magic?

[DoomMech]

Forget it. I quit.

[oracle343gspark]

Flawless victory!

[Praetor Knight]

DoomMech wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

As for the blade itself, we already have technology to make very sharpe ceramic blades, which are in a crystalline structure.

Now the Omni-blade can be categorized as ceramic, since it is being made from an allotrope of carbon, Diamond; and the blade edge has been described as being monomolecular, which is also possible. And ceramics can be clear / transparent so the Omni-blade could reflect the glow of the Omni-Tool hologram.


My only pet peeve with what we've seen so far, is assembling the blade for use, then disassembling the blade when done, I'd rather it be stored in the forearm between uses.

Okay, I'd buy that. Better be in the codex though.

Exactly. From what I believe Patrick Weekes had teased in a tweet, Bioware is on this train of thought, they just haven't said anything more yet.


And for me at least, I'd rather get a tease of the Codex Tech descriptions than anything plot related.

[Il Divo]

DoomMech wrote...

Okay, okay, let me explain a little.

When I say that mass effect is "hard sci-fi" I mean that they take their time to explain the science behind FTL drives, infinite ammo, and this seemingly magic mass altering substance (although it does have characteristics of exotic matter). When they go through all this trouble to make the world internalily consistant, adding crazy stuff like the omniblade, glowing holo armor or the Shadow Broker's omnitool shield makes the world stop making sense.

But how much an explanation is provided has little to do with the "hardness" of a setting. Sci-fi hardness is typically a measure of how close or far a medium strays from accepted scientific theory. Mass Effect may provide explanations for its concepts, but unless they're grounded (to some degree) in reality, it's typically not considered "hard".  You also haven't even seen the codex entry explaining the omniblade.

As for the Reapers?

"Any sufficently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic" -Arthur C. Clarke


That and the blade looks stupid.

Clarke's law can apply to anything, including the omniblade. And I think the blade looks awesome.

[Praetor Knight]

oracle343gspark wrote...

DoomMech wrote...

Okay, okay, let me explain a little.

When I say that mass effect is "hard sci-fi" I mean that they take their time to explain the science behind FTL drives, infinite ammo, and this seemingly magic mass altering substance (although it does have characteristics of exotic matter). When they go through all this trouble to make the world internalily consistant, adding crazy stuff like the omniblade, glowing holo armor or the Shadow Broker's omnitool shield makes the world stop making sense.

As for the Reapers?

"Any sufficently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic" -Arthur C. Clarke


That and the blade looks stupid.

So your making a fuss about omniblades ( which have been explained for you by responses to your post) when by using that quote, the whole Mass Effect universe could be viewed as magic?

Hmm... I wonder if anyone has heard of Coral Castle or Pumapunku?

[Arppis]

Omni-Blade is the new lightsaber!

Soon, we shall see duels be fought with them!

Modifié par Arppis, 03 août 2011 - 07:52 .

[DoomMech]

oracle343gspark wrote...

Flawless victory!

Fatalitly!

Seriously though, read my posts, don't skim them. I believe I am quite clear.

[DoomMech]

Arppis wrote...

Omni-Blade is the new lightsaber!

Soon, we shall see duels be fought with them!

Harbinger: USE YOUR AGGRESSIVE FEELINGS. LET THE HATE FLOW THROUGH YOU

Shepard: I'll never join you!

[MACharlie1]

DoomMech wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Omni-Blade is the new lightsaber!

Soon, we shall see duels be fought with them!

Harbinger: USE YOUR AGGRESSIVE FEELINGS. LET THE HATE FLOW THROUGH YOU

Shepard: I'll never join you!

Seen it. Done it.

[Arppis]

MACharlie1 wrote...

DoomMech wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Omni-Blade is the new lightsaber!

Soon, we shall see duels be fought with them!

Harbinger: USE YOUR AGGRESSIVE FEELINGS. LET THE HATE FLOW THROUGH YOU

Shepard: I'll never join you!

Seen it. Done it.

Win.

[Praetor Knight]

Pulletlamer wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Not a Hologram, and we're closer to that then I realized.

www.youtube.com/watch
(and the clip is in three parts.)

That was cool. I actually saw the 3 videos.

Still, it's not like we're not used as seeing type of tech like that on ME universe:

*snip*

*snip*

Yeah, who knows what we might discover in the next 50 years or so.

Also how I don't understand why people can't find beleivable that type of tech when there's BIOTICS everywhere in the ME universe.

People are like:

Biotics? Pft. I have those at home.

Omni-blades? FRIGGING UNBELEIVABLE!!! @$#?%! I QUIT!!!

What I've found interesting about Mass Effect Fields, and to a lesser extent Biotics, is how close we could potentially be in understanding matter manipulation not too dissimilar to what we see in the ME games.

I gave the example of Coral Castle in an earlier post, and the man behind that place, Edward Leedskalnin, was said to always have a sealed box with him and had his own theories on at least magnetism, and some of the stuff in that place is not easy to figure out how they were moved by one guy!


And I like to peruse sciencey stuff when I can, and I thought some Higgsless models are interesting to look into.

www.higgs-boson.org/ | www.spacetime-model.com/higgsless_idx.htm

[Admoniter]

I don't like the switchblade animation; now that is just straight up silly. The omniblade I can deal with... still think the soldier wouldn't be one to use an omniblade. I think just a regular wrist or gauntlet mounted blade would suffice.

[DoomMech]

Admoniter wrote...

I don't like the switchblade animation; now that is just straight up silly. The omniblade I can deal with... still think the soldier wouldn't be one to use an omniblade. I think just a regular wrist or gauntlet mounted blade would suffice.

YES thank you! this is what I've been saying this whole ****ing thread!

[Therefore_I_Am]

DoomMech wrote...

You know bioware, I can believe in ludicrous things. I can believe in people with mystic powers and swords made of lasers teaming up with artificially intelligent robots to fight space wizards. I can believe in dudes with giant armor and chainsaw guns battling subteranean aliens. I can believe that a scientist with no combat training and a hazmat suit can defeat a platoon of US marines and extra dimentional creatures.

BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A HARD SCI-FI UNIVERSE YOU CAN HAVE A "HOLOGRAHIC SWITCHBLADE"

IT JUST DOESN'T WORK!!!

I mean come on Bioware!

Just because somthing is cool, doesn't mean you should just throw it in, it harms the mythology and takes players out of the game, out of the universe you so painstakingly created.

Why not a regular wristmounted blade?
Why not a space age hidden blade?
Why not wolverine claws?
Why not a mass effect saber?



Just....Why?

If an omni tool can create intense heat (Incineration) liquid nitrogen (cryo freeze) and a harmful orb (Combat drone) than it can most certaintly create a plasma-like spike (omni blade).

[SomeKindaEnigma]

Oh great, one of these threads again

[Praetor Knight]

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

If an omni tool can create intense heat (Incineration) liquid nitrogen (cryo freeze) and a harmful orb (Combat drone) than it can most certaintly create a plasma-like spike (omni blade).

That's possible, but the design and animation would have to be a bit different, so how about for the Engineer?

Edit: I mean a Plasma Spike for the Engineer.

Modifié par Praetor Shepard, 03 août 2011 - 08:37 .

[Jonathan Shepard]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....

This. And tech armor. I can't believe threads lke this keep popping up.<_<

[Ghost Warrior]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Not a Hologram, and we're closer to that then I realized.

www.youtube.com/watch
(and the clip is in three parts.)

I love that guy,he is always interesting.

[DoomMech]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....

And I thought that was stupid too!

Unrealistic indeed

Modifié par DoomMech, 03 août 2011 - 09:25 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

I..HATE the omni-tool. Horrible idea, the way it's implemented.

[LGTX]

Haptic holography and mass effect fields, that's how Casey Hudson explained it.

[Village_Idiot]

DoomMech wrote...

You know bioware, I can believe in ludicrous things. I can believe in people with mystic powers and swords made of lasers teaming up with artificially intelligent robots to fight space wizards. I can believe in dudes with giant armor and chainsaw guns battling subteranean aliens. I can believe that a scientist with no combat training and a hazmat suit can defeat a platoon of US marines and extra dimentional creatures.

BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A HARD SCI-FI UNIVERSE YOU CAN HAVE A "HOLOGRAHIC SWITCHBLADE"

IT JUST DOESN'T WORK!!!

I mean come on Bioware!

Just because somthing is cool, doesn't mean you should just throw it in, it harms the mythology and takes players out of the game, out of the universe you so painstakingly created.

Why not a regular wristmounted blade?
Why not a space age hidden blade?
Why not wolverine claws?
Why not a mass effect saber?



Just....Why?

[gamer_girl]

People if you're honestly that concerned with realism, you wouldn't be playing a science-fiction game, now would you? Honestly so much of Mass Effect goes beyond the limits of reality and you're complaining about a bloody sword. Point of this thread - there isn't one.