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[Jake71887]

ThePwener wrote...

Kind of laughable that you are so bothered by the way I think. That isn't healthy. That's why you're insane. What I think does not effect you in any way.

That's not the definition of insane... And the act of expressing yourself, and having those thoughts heard by others is in fact an effect on them. 

[ThePwener]

Jake71887 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Kind of laughable that you are so bothered by the way I think. That isn't healthy. That's why you're insane. What I think does not effect you in any way.

That's not the definition of insane... And the act of expressing yourself, and having those thoughts heard by others is in fact an effect on them. 

Thanks for that Captain Obvious.

[The Twilight God]

DoomMech wrote...

You know bioware, I can believe in ludicrous things. I can believe in people with mystic powers and swords made of lasers teaming up with artificially intelligent robots to fight space wizards. I can believe in dudes with giant armor and chainsaw guns battling subteranean aliens. I can believe that a scientist with no combat training and a hazmat suit can defeat a platoon of US marines and extra dimentional creatures.

BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A HARD SCI-FI UNIVERSE YOU CAN HAVE A "HOLOGRAHIC SWITCHBLADE"

IT JUST DOESN'T WORK!!!

I mean come on Bioware!

Just because somthing is cool, doesn't mean you should just throw it in,

It is NOT cool. The Omniblade was the dumbest most childish thing I'd ever seen until the unvealing of the double fisted omniblade attack for sentinels. Luckily they included a nice pistol whip barrage for people who aren't retards impressed by glowy shiny things. I will be pistol whipping. I will never use a omniblade.. EVER. I lose brain cells every time I see it.

[ThePwener]

gamer_girl wrote...

No it doesn't. I digress, but you were arguing against me just as much as I was against you. I just absolutely hate when people disrespect the people that put incredible amounts of work into a game. They work hard to please fans, and when fans are so nitpicky that they'll tear apart a bloody codex entry it makes me angry. They are not "thickheaded" just because they thought up a new concept. That is all I have to say.

You must be new to the BSN.

[Jake71887]

ThePwener wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

Kind of laughable that you are so bothered by the way I think. That isn't healthy. That's why you're insane. What I think does not effect you in any way.

That's not the definition of insane... And the act of expressing yourself, and having those thoughts heard by others is in fact an effect on them. 

Thanks for that Captain Obvious.

Clearly was obvious to everyone but you, considering your statement. 

[ThePwener]

The Twilight God wrote...

It is NOT cool. The Omniblade was the dumbest most childish thing I'd ever seen until the unvealing of the double fisted omniblade attack for sentinels. Luckily they included a nice pistol whip barrage for people who aren't retards impressed by glowy shiny things. I will be pistol whipping. I will never use a omniblade.. EVER. I lose brain cells every time I see it.

Luckily for you, you can play as a Biotic and never see the thing.

[ThePwener]

Jake71887 wrote...

Clearly was obvious to everyone but you, considering your statement. 

Oh, inversed psychology, nice touch.

[gamer_girl]

ThePwener wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

No it doesn't. I digress, but you were arguing against me just as much as I was against you. I just absolutely hate when people disrespect the people that put incredible amounts of work into a game. They work hard to please fans, and when fans are so nitpicky that they'll tear apart a bloody codex entry it makes me angry. They are not "thickheaded" just because they thought up a new concept. That is all I have to say.

You must be new to the BSN.

Nope been here for a while now. I can tolerate constructive criticism, but I can't stand contemptuousness. I figure someone's gotta stick up for the BW team, may as well be me.

[Jake71887]

ThePwener wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Clearly was obvious to everyone but you, considering your statement. 

Oh, inversed psychology, nice touch.

You mean Reverse psychology?

Do you even know what you're saying anymore 

[ThePwener]

Jake71887 wrote...

You mean Reverse psychology?

Do you even know what you're saying anymore 

Wow, I really am on the verge of falling asleep in my desk. Adds shame to the fact that Im a psychology student.

[Jake71887]

ThePwener wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

You mean Reverse psychology?

Do you even know what you're saying anymore 

Wow, I really am on the verge of falling asleep in my desk. Adds shame to the fact that Im a psychology student.

Indeed! :happy:

[ThePwener]

THA SHAME!!!

[JamieCOTC]

littlezack wrote...

 BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A HARD SCI-FI UNIVERSE YOU CAN HAVE A "HOLOGRAHIC SWITCHBLADE"

Mass Effect is not, nor has it ever been, Hard SF.

applause meter explodes!

I'll be honest.  The idea of the omniblade doesn't excite me, but I won't knock it until I try it. 

[ThePwener]

JamieCOTC wrote...

littlezack wrote...

 BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A HARD SCI-FI UNIVERSE YOU CAN HAVE A "HOLOGRAHIC SWITCHBLADE"

Mass Effect is not, nor has it ever been, Hard SF.

applause meter explodes! 

Good eye, I didn't catch that. 

[Sparda Stonerule]

The Twilight God wrote...

DoomMech wrote...

You know bioware, I can believe in ludicrous things. I can believe in people with mystic powers and swords made of lasers teaming up with artificially intelligent robots to fight space wizards. I can believe in dudes with giant armor and chainsaw guns battling subteranean aliens. I can believe that a scientist with no combat training and a hazmat suit can defeat a platoon of US marines and extra dimentional creatures.

BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A HARD SCI-FI UNIVERSE YOU CAN HAVE A "HOLOGRAHIC SWITCHBLADE"

IT JUST DOESN'T WORK!!!

I mean come on Bioware!

Just because somthing is cool, doesn't mean you should just throw it in,

It is NOT cool. The Omniblade was the dumbest most childish thing I'd ever seen until the unvealing of the double fisted omniblade attack for sentinels. Luckily they included a nice pistol whip barrage for people who aren't retards impressed by glowy shiny things. I will be pistol whipping. I will never use a omniblade.. EVER. I lose brain cells every time I see it.

Nah instead you are a retard who is impressed by melee combos because they look cool. Just because you don't like something does not make it retarded. I can't believe you said you lose brain cells over your own personal bias. Wait I can because this is the BSN where every little detail that a person doesn't like is the dumbest thing ever.

You people can't discuss anything without someone getting immeadiately offended. I hope in reality you have a little more tact and common sense when you talk to people.

[Candidate 88766]

gamer_girl wrote...

ThePwener wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

No it doesn't. I digress, but you were arguing against me just as much as I was against you. I just absolutely hate when people disrespect the people that put incredible amounts of work into a game. They work hard to please fans, and when fans are so nitpicky that they'll tear apart a bloody codex entry it makes me angry. They are not "thickheaded" just because they thought up a new concept. That is all I have to say.

You must be new to the BSN.

Nope been here for a while now. I can tolerate constructive criticism, but I can't stand contemptuousness. I figure someone's gotta stick up for the BW team, may as well be me.

Constructive criticism? On BSN? Good luck finding some of that.

OT: I don't understand why people are so upset over the omni-blade. Bioware wanted to add a melee weapon and styled its appearance to fit with the established ME unviverse. Orange hologram things are everywhere in the game. Characters have holographic wrist computers that can do almost anything. Many characters even wear tactile holographic armour. A tactile holographic blade is in fitting with both the visual style of the game, and complies with the established lore for the omin-tool. 

Modifié par Candidate 88766, 04 août 2011 - 12:45 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

stewie1974 wrote...

DoomMech wrote...


BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A HARD SCI-FI UNIVERSE YOU CAN HAVE A "HOLOGRAHIC SWITCHBLADE"

I disagree it is a -hard- sci-fi universe.

The aliens are humanoid for a start, a celluar pattern unlikely to be duplicated outside of our solar system. It took a very specific set of circumstances to arrive at the humanoid pattern on earth, and look it only happened once on earth, given the sheer number of species on earth ALONE in the present ((not to even mention the dinosaurs whose mass extinction is the ONLY reason we were able to develop )) which are not humanoid you can see how rare it is... it's about 1 in a googleplex.....to have -humanoid- aliens is a stretch for a start.

Next, biotics which is basically magic fueled by magic eezo rock.... again unlikely..

Faster than light drives, improbable by todays scientific reasoning, meaning the sci-fi is at odds with sci-fact. Which means it's no longer sci-fi but sci-fantasy.

A -hard- sci-fi universe would be something like asimov...or arthur c clarke.

And I disagree with your disagreement.

The aliens are (mostly) humanoid. But we're not really in any position to say that thats impossible or improbable.
Adn the aliesn are humanoid FORA REASON - to bether connect with them.

FTL? FTL is a REQUIREMENT to have a space-opera. Without FTL your'e constrained to a single planet. Hence,
why I accept FTL. And FTL is open to a lot of debate in the first place.

Biotics? Not my cup of tea and I can't say like them. But at least tehy have a somewhat sensible explanation.


Conclusion - Things that arne't striclty possible (or are theorized not to be) are fine as long as they are NECESSARY for hte universe to work AND as long as they are few in number.

The more you add, the less hard the unvierse becomes.

[LGTX]

Omniblades are much more acceptable than humanoid aliens and biotics. For me. But hell, like you said - every sci-fi universe needs its Force and from a gameplay standpoint, rigging animations with a universal skeleton is much easier than creating completely different sets for wacky aliens. Plus, they won't appeal to the romance crowd. These marketing and/or gameplay limitations aside, the UNIVERSE itself would work with whatwver the hell it wanted to.

Oh, and my stance on the omnitool/blade remains the same. It has an 'omni' in the name for a reason. I think it's a nice deviation from lightsabers and wristmounted holo emitters.

[Kaiser Shepard]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....

To be honest, the Shadow Broker reveal itself was such an asspull at the time that his Omni-shield was the least of people's concerns.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 04 août 2011 - 01:25 .

[Therefore_I_Am]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....

To be honest, the Shadow Broker reveal itself was such an asspull at the time that his Omni-shield was the least of people's concerns.

How was he an asspull? Would you rather him stay anon? If he wasn't revealed then alot of people would feel betrayed. Besides, the 'yahg' can lay the foundation for future ME stories, or even for a ME3 sideplot.

[aftohsix]

 This is a fun and unique topic.

Modifié par aftohsix, 04 août 2011 - 01:56 .

[didymos1120]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

To be honest, the Shadow Broker reveal itself was such an asspull at the time that his Omni-shield was the least of people's concerns.

Most people weren't particularly concerned about him being a yahg at all at the time. 

[Lotion Soronarr]

LGTX wrote...

Omniblades are much more acceptable than humanoid aliens and biotics. For me. But hell, like you said - every sci-fi universe needs its Force and from a gameplay standpoint, rigging animations with a universal skeleton is much easier than creating completely different sets for wacky aliens. Plus, they won't appeal to the romance crowd. These marketing and/or gameplay limitations aside, the UNIVERSE itself would work with whatwver the hell it wanted to.

Oh, and my stance on the omnitool/blade remains the same. It has an 'omni' in the name for a reason. I think it's a nice deviation from lightsabers and wristmounted holo emitters.

I don't hate the concept of the Omni-tool in itself (as some sort of portable forge) - but the idea it can put together and dissasemble complex items in miliseconds is absurd to the max.
Not to mention all of those shaped ME fields and all that raw materials for creating the stuff..stored where exxactly?

There's a treshold after something stops being believable technolgoy and becomes magic. Omni-tools crossed that treshold eons ago and never looked back.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....

To be honest, the Shadow Broker reveal itself was such an asspull at the time that his Omni-shield was the least of people's concerns.

How was he an asspull? Would you rather him stay anon? If he wasn't revealed then alot of people would feel betrayed. Besides, the 'yahg' can lay the foundation for future ME stories, or even for a ME3 sideplot.

He was an asspull in that out of nowhere, the most illusive character in the entire series (sorry, TIM) is revealed to be a completely new alien that no one has ever heard of before. I'm all for further exposition of the universe, but not at the cost of versimilitude.

And yes, I see how the yagh are obviously meant to be used in ME3 in one way or another.

didymos1120 wrote...

Most people weren't particularly concerned about him being a yahg at all at the time. 

That's because they were more concerned about the Omni-shield.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 04 août 2011 - 02:14 .