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Really? Objectively stupid? That's the argument we're going with?

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I just want to know why the same people who complain about the Omniblade never complained about the AI Drone, or the Sentinel's armor, or Kasumi using the omnitool as a bludgeon, or how the omnitool can shoot out flames and electricity and freeze things, or any of the other examples of omnitools being solid before this. Hell, the AI Drone can flippin' EXPLODE. None of these things bothered people before, but the moment you can use it as a blade, which is actually one of the more simple things it's been shown to do? GAME OVER.

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I just want to know why the same people who complain about the Omniblade never complained about the...


Because all these things happened in ME2, which had already raped the universe and background lore with a 10 foot barbed pole and left nothing but gore and coagulated bloodstains behind it.  Faced with what was already done, we just hung our heads in shame and walked away.  The complaints you're seeing now is the result of a distant, unrequited hope that ME3 can bring sanity and internal consistency back to a once promising Sci-fi IP.  In short, you're seeing hope for change.

I for one have given up such hope.

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littlezack wrote...

I just want to know why the same people who complain about the Omniblade never complained about the AI Drone, or the Sentinel's armor, or Kasumi using the omnitool as a bludgeon, or how the omnitool can shoot out flames and electricity and freeze things, or any of the other examples of omnitools being solid before this. Hell, the AI Drone can flippin' EXPLODE. None of these things bothered people before, but the moment you can use it as a blade, which is actually one of the more simple things it's been shown to do? GAME OVER.


Exactly! I can't count how many holographic combat drones I smacked with the but of my rifle. Never saw anyone complain about that. The idea that holograms in ME can have substance has been apparent since you saw joker tapping away on his Control panel at the start of ME1. In fact, I beleive I recall Joker even slamming his fist against it when they took out the collector ship.

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Wait, Mass Effect's codex had consistency? Where's Inexile when you you need him? <_<

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Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....
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There is no evidence that the projection itself is an actual shield. If it were, then it's not a hologram, but solid matter. Like an omni-tool, in which the aesthetic display is just an haptic adaptive interface , the orange shield is just the visual indicator of the active range of an arm mounted mass effect barrier generator.  

For the Sentinel Armor, its shield bonus is integrated into the hardsuit's shields. The hologragraphic over-armor is purely aesthetic like an LED signifying a piece of equipment is powered on. There is nothing to lead me to believe that  magic armor of solid light is mystically floating over a sentinels armor.

The AI drone could easily be a small physical drone projecting a holographic shell. That's the only thing that makes in sense. A magic ball of light? Nope, this ain't Warcraft or Everquest.

The problem with the omniblade is that... well, it flies in the face of reason, even within the context of the mass effect universe. Because it is capable of actually interacting with solid objects it can't be a hologram. It it resembled a hammer and knocked enemies down it could be something that used a midified shield generator to project a force towards an oppenent. Like a mini throw. Bit it actually stabs them. It is a sharp object that cuts through armor like a hot knife through butter.  It doesn't exist as a solid object when not in use. However, it quite literally appears out of thin air. So what the heck is it? Magic?... that's about all it can be. It's a stupid addition to the sci-fi franchise, presumably for simple people to enjoy. OMG!! I stabitz dat dude wit meh lite knife!!!

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The Twilight God wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....
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There is no evidence that the projection itself is an actual shield. If it were, then it's not a hologram, but solid matter. Like an omni-tool, in which the aesthetic display is just an haptic adaptive interface , the orange shield is just the visual indicator of the active range of an arm mounted mass effect barrier generator.  

For the Sentinel Armor, its shield bonus is integrated into the hardsuit's shields. The hologragraphic over-armor is purely aesthetic like an LED signifying a piece of equipment is powered on. There is nothing to lead me to believe that  magic armor of solid light is mystically floating over a sentinels armor.

The AI drone could easily be a small physical drone projecting a holographic shell. That's the only thing that makes in sense. A magic ball of light? Nope, this ain't Warcraft or Everquest.

The problem with the omniblade is that... well, it flies in the face of reason, even within the context of the mass effect universe. Because it is capable of actually interacting with solid objects it can't be a hologram. It doesn't exist as a solid object when not in use. However, it quite literally appears out of thin air. So what the heck is it? Magic?... that's about all it can be. It's a stupid addition to the sci-fi franchise, presumably for simple people to enjoy. OMG!! I stabitz dat dude wit meh lite knife!!!


A small physical drone from where? It materializes out of thin air, so where is the physical part coming from?

And that shield didn't appear out of thin air? What is to stop the blade form being the exact same concept? If it can physicaly stop Shepard, then it can be narrowed and used to stab him as well.

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Wait, Mass Effect's codex had consistency? Where's Inexile when you you need him? <_<

It did in ME1, to a large degree at least.  Not flawless, but spades above the "this is just fantasy with spaceships, anything goes because it's magic technology!" that pretty much every sci-fi IP uses these days.  Those like me noticed and appreciated this, and hoped it would be refined and developed as the series progressed.  I've actually seen discussions started on physics forums about ME technology and how it would affect civilization.  Instead, this fragile but promising core of speculative science storytelling was completely abandoned. Very sad.  Hope the kiddies enjoy their holographic knives.

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SpiffySquee wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....
Posted Image


There is no evidence that the projection itself is an actual shield. If it were, then it's not a hologram, but solid matter. Like an omni-tool, in which the aesthetic display is just an haptic adaptive interface , the orange shield is just the visual indicator of the active range of an arm mounted mass effect barrier generator.  

For the Sentinel Armor, its shield bonus is integrated into the hardsuit's shields. The hologragraphic over-armor is purely aesthetic like an LED signifying a piece of equipment is powered on. There is nothing to lead me to believe that  magic armor of solid light is mystically floating over a sentinels armor.

The AI drone could easily be a small physical drone projecting a holographic shell. That's the only thing that makes in sense. A magic ball of light? Nope, this ain't Warcraft or Everquest.

The problem with the omniblade is that... well, it flies in the face of reason, even within the context of the mass effect universe. Because it is capable of actually interacting with solid objects it can't be a hologram. It doesn't exist as a solid object when not in use. However, it quite literally appears out of thin air. So what the heck is it? Magic?... that's about all it can be. It's a stupid addition to the sci-fi franchise, presumably for simple people to enjoy. OMG!! I stabitz dat dude wit meh lite knife!!!


A small physical drone from where? It materializes out of thin air, so where is the physical part coming from?

And that shield didn't appear out of thin air? What is to stop the blade form being the exact same concept? If it can physical stop Shepard, then it can be narrowed and used to stab him as well.



The omni-tool is a "minifacturing" device. It could make stuff out of geth parts, spend thermal clips or random pieces of of metal or ceramic litered about.

The Shadow Broker shield is a arm mounted kenetic barrier device. The aesthetic orange image is just an indicator that it is operational and a visual display of its active range. Please, try to answer your own question before asking me. You're not even trying. I'm repeating what I just told you. Read what I posted beforehand carefully. Also, note I editted some stuff in there.

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The Twilight God wrote...
The omni-tool is a "minifacturing" device. It could make stuff out of geth parts, spend thermal clips or random pieces of of metal or ceramic litered about.

The Shadow Broker shield is a arm mounted kenetic barrier device. The aesthetic orange image is just an indicator that it is operational and a visual display of its active range. Please, try to answer your own question before asking me. You're not even trying. I'm repeating what I just told you. Read what I posted beforehand carefully. Also, note I editted some stuff in there.


Rather oddly shaped field...wouldn't you say?

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The Twilight God wrote...

SpiffySquee wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....
Posted Image


There is no evidence that the projection itself is an actual shield. If it were, then it's not a hologram, but solid matter. Like an omni-tool, in which the aesthetic display is just an haptic adaptive interface , the orange shield is just the visual indicator of the active range of an arm mounted mass effect barrier generator.  

For the Sentinel Armor, its shield bonus is integrated into the hardsuit's shields. The hologragraphic over-armor is purely aesthetic like an LED signifying a piece of equipment is powered on. There is nothing to lead me to believe that  magic armor of solid light is mystically floating over a sentinels armor.

The AI drone could easily be a small physical drone projecting a holographic shell. That's the only thing that makes in sense. A magic ball of light? Nope, this ain't Warcraft or Everquest.

The problem with the omniblade is that... well, it flies in the face of reason, even within the context of the mass effect universe. Because it is capable of actually interacting with solid objects it can't be a hologram. It doesn't exist as a solid object when not in use. However, it quite literally appears out of thin air. So what the heck is it? Magic?... that's about all it can be. It's a stupid addition to the sci-fi franchise, presumably for simple people to enjoy. OMG!! I stabitz dat dude wit meh lite knife!!!


A small physical drone from where? It materializes out of thin air, so where is the physical part coming from?

And that shield didn't appear out of thin air? What is to stop the blade form being the exact same concept? If it can physical stop Shepard, then it can be narrowed and used to stab him as well.



The omni-tool is a "minifacturing" device. It could make stuff out of geth parts, spend thermal clips or random pieces of of metal or ceramic litered about.

The Shadow Broker shield is a arm mounted kenetic barrier device. The aesthetic orange image is just an indicator that it is operational and a visual display of its active range. Please, try to answer your own question before asking me. You're not even trying. I'm repeating what I just told you. Read what I posted beforehand carefully. Also, note I editted some stuff in there.


I read it quite clearly thank you very much, I'm just wondering why you are treating something you have no evidence of as fact. Everything you just said is supposition only. Perhaps it is a kentic barrier,even so, if shaped and applied correctly it could be used to pierce things.

As for the drone, I could buy that if the drone materialized around your omni tool, but it can materialize 20 feet away. Are you suggesting the omni tool has the ability to building things 20 feet away?

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Il Divo wrote...

Wait, Mass Effect's codex had consistency? Where's Inexile when you you need him? <_<

It did in ME1, to a large degree at least.  Not flawless, but spades above the "this is just fantasy with spaceships, anything goes because it's magic technology!" that pretty much every sci-fi IP uses these days.  Those like me noticed and appreciated this, and hoped it would be refined and developed as the series progressed.  I've actually seen discussions started on physics forums about ME technology and how it would affect civilization.  Instead, this fragile but promising core of speculative science storytelling was completely abandoned. Very sad.  Hope the kiddies enjoy their holographic knives.


And I'd dispute that Mass Effect had anything close to what you suggest, starting with Saren one-shotting Nihlus in the back of the head through his shields, extending to alien biology, and ending with its presentation of space battles. Mass Effect was essentially space magic from the start, for those who cared to recognize it. 

But the omniblade breaks your suspension of disbelief, the codex, and apparently the entire ME universe.

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And I'd dispute that Mass Effect had anything close to what you suggest, starting with Saren one-shotting Nihlus in the back of the head through his shields, extending to alien biology, and ending with its presentation of space battles. Mass Effect was essentially space magic from the start, for those who cared to recognize it. 

But the omniblade breaks your suspension of disbelief, the codex, and apparently the entire ME universe.


The codex did.  The game was hit and miss.  And don't project your fixation with the omniblade onto others.  It's an example, but by far not the only one, and I never claimed otherwise (I'm not the OP obviously).

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Il Divo wrote...

sbvera13 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Wait, Mass Effect's codex had consistency? Where's Inexile when you you need him? <_<

It did in ME1, to a large degree at least.  Not flawless, but spades above the "this is just fantasy with spaceships, anything goes because it's magic technology!" that pretty much every sci-fi IP uses these days.  Those like me noticed and appreciated this, and hoped it would be refined and developed as the series progressed.  I've actually seen discussions started on physics forums about ME technology and how it would affect civilization.  Instead, this fragile but promising core of speculative science storytelling was completely abandoned. Very sad.  Hope the kiddies enjoy their holographic knives.


And I'd dispute that Mass Effect had anything close to what you suggest, starting with Saren one-shotting Nihlus in the back of the head through his shields, extending to alien biology, and ending with its presentation of space battles. Mass Effect was essentially space magic from the start, for those who cared to recognize it. 

But the omniblade breaks your suspension of disbelief, the codex, and apparently the entire ME universe.


May have dissagreed a lot way back when in the sumd anaylsis thread, but I could not agree more with this post! Bioware has never claimed ME was hard anything, it is unfair for people to keep trying to hold it up to such standards. Might as well complain that the one ring could not possibly contain an evil awareness....

And again, we have had holograms with substance ever since the first scene in ME1 with joker taping away on a holographic key board. 

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The omni-tool is a "minifacturing" device. It could make stuff out of geth parts, spend thermal clips or random pieces of of metal or ceramic litered about.

The Shadow Broker shield is a arm mounted kenetic barrier device. The aesthetic orange image is just an indicator that it is operational and a visual display of its active range. Please, try to answer your own question before asking me. You're not even trying. I'm repeating what I just told you. Read what I posted beforehand carefully. Also, note I editted some stuff in there.


Rather oddly shaped field...wouldn't you say?


It doesn't have to perfectly fit the shape of the field itself. It on needs to display the active range of it's protection. A field itself would be is "fluid" and "formless". However you would describe gravity I guess.  This isn't proof either way, but I notice during that Fight Shepard always pushes against the Broker's forearm. He never interacts with the outer perimeter of the hologram. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at no point does he physically apply force to the holograhic image itself in a manner that screams "this thing is solid".

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The codex did.  The game was hit and miss.  And don't project your fixation with the omniblade onto others.  It's an example, but by far not the only one, and I never claimed otherwise (I'm not the OP obviously).


No doubt, but this still seems to me a bit of hysteria. Aside from element zero itself (the unobtanium of the setting), what do you honestly think Bioware designed first? The codex? Or the characters/story/gameplay? The codex gave background information about the setting, which often had little impact on anything else.

Sure, I like it when the codex is not contradicted, but Mass Effect doesn't even require the codex to be enjoyed, and it was never quite given the prominence/emphasis here that some suggest. Ignoring the political factions, ME's plot doesn't even require the codex to understand what's going on. It was always second-hand to everything else in the game. And it's contradicted more than a few times in Mass Effect alone.

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It doesn't have to perfectly fit the shape of the field itself. It on needs to display the active range of it's protection. A field itself would be is "fluid" and "formless". However you would describe gravity I guess.  This isn't proof either way, but I notice during that Fight Shepard always pushes against the Broker's forearm. He never interacts with the outer perimeter of the hologram. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at no point does he physically apply force to the holograhic image itself in a manner that screams "this thing is solid".


While that is a possibility, if you rewatch the fight, the Shadowbroker only activates his shield after Shepard starts punching him in melee combat. That would be a rather useless gesture, if it was simply a second kinetic barrier. He also attempts to hit Shepard in the style of a Dragon Age shield bash.


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The Twilight God wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...
The omni-tool is a "minifacturing" device. It could make stuff out of geth parts, spend thermal clips or random pieces of of metal or ceramic litered about.

The Shadow Broker shield is a arm mounted kenetic barrier device. The aesthetic orange image is just an indicator that it is operational and a visual display of its active range. Please, try to answer your own question before asking me. You're not even trying. I'm repeating what I just told you. Read what I posted beforehand carefully. Also, note I editted some stuff in there.


Rather oddly shaped field...wouldn't you say?


It doesn't have to perfectly fit the shape of the field itself. It on needs to display the active range of it's protection. A field itself would be is "fluid" and "formless". However you would describe gravity I guess.  This isn't proof either way, but I notice during that Fight Shepard always pushes against the Broker's forearm. He never interacts with the outer perimeter of the hologram. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at no point does he physically apply force to the holograhic image itself in a manner that screams "this thing is solid".


Not quite sure what you mean about the field being shapeless and formless. All kenetic barriers have shape and form in ME, usually surrounding the object it protects.

I just watched the the fight again, an it is clear that the shield extends from his omni tool, so you would have to argue that his omni tool also doubled as an arm mounted kenetic barrier device which we have never seen it do before. We have, however, seen it materialize holograms with substance "like the combat drone". Also, their are times where it appears shepard's entire upper body is pushing against the whole shield, not just the shadow brokers arm. I also want to point out that it has the same links in it's design that are in the Tech armor. If the holographic display of tech armor were merely for show, why have it? All that would do is alert the enemy that you have tech armor. It is far more likely, that the tech armor, and the shield are the same thing the onmi blade is made of.

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SpiffySquee wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

SpiffySquee wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Yes. Totally. Holographic interfaces can't possibly be blades. We've NEVER seen anything like this before. It's totally unrealistic....
Posted Image


There is no evidence that the projection itself is an actual shield. If it were, then it's not a hologram, but solid matter. Like an omni-tool, in which the aesthetic display is just an haptic adaptive interface , the orange shield is just the visual indicator of the active range of an arm mounted mass effect barrier generator.  

For the Sentinel Armor, its shield bonus is integrated into the hardsuit's shields. The hologragraphic over-armor is purely aesthetic like an LED signifying a piece of equipment is powered on. There is nothing to lead me to believe that  magic armor of solid light is mystically floating over a sentinels armor.

The AI drone could easily be a small physical drone projecting a holographic shell. That's the only thing that makes in sense. A magic ball of light? Nope, this ain't Warcraft or Everquest.

The problem with the omniblade is that... well, it flies in the face of reason, even within the context of the mass effect universe. Because it is capable of actually interacting with solid objects it can't be a hologram. It doesn't exist as a solid object when not in use. However, it quite literally appears out of thin air. So what the heck is it? Magic?... that's about all it can be. It's a stupid addition to the sci-fi franchise, presumably for simple people to enjoy. OMG!! I stabitz dat dude wit meh lite knife!!!


A small physical drone from where? It materializes out of thin air, so where is the physical part coming from?

And that shield didn't appear out of thin air? What is to stop the blade form being the exact same concept? If it can physical stop Shepard, then it can be narrowed and used to stab him as well.



The omni-tool is a "minifacturing" device. It could make stuff out of geth parts, spend thermal clips or random pieces of of metal or ceramic litered about.

The Shadow Broker shield is a arm mounted kenetic barrier device. The aesthetic orange image is just an indicator that it is operational and a visual display of its active range. Please, try to answer your own question before asking me. You're not even trying. I'm repeating what I just told you. Read what I posted beforehand carefully. Also, note I editted some stuff in there.


I read it quite clearly thank you very much, I'm just wondering why you are treating something you have no evidence of as fact. Everything you just said is supposition only. Perhaps it is a kentic barrier,even so, if shaped and applied correctly it could be used to pierce things.

As for the drone, I could buy that if the drone materialized around your omni tool, but it can materialize 20 feet away. Are you suggesting the omni tool has the ability to building things 20 feet away?


Someone asked why no one complained about sentinel shields, drones or the SB shield. I am replying to that sentiment. The other holograms can be explained within the context of the mass effect universe. The omniblade is pure Lord of the Rings magic. No way around it.

To your other question, omni-tools appearantly applies medi-gel at range through some sophisticated use of scanning tech and mass effect fields. Overload causes a electromagnetic blast whose epicenter spreads from a singular point in space next to enemies. Using omni-gel to open containers which does not require direct physical contact. So, yes, the omni-tool can do things from a distance. Another way to look at it is gameplay mechanics necessitating  this.

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It doesn't have to perfectly fit the shape of the field itself. It on needs to display the active range of it's protection. A field itself would be is "fluid" and "formless". However you would describe gravity I guess.  This isn't proof either way, but I notice during that Fight Shepard always pushes against the Broker's forearm. He never interacts with the outer perimeter of the hologram. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at no point does he physically apply force to the holograhic image itself in a manner that screams "this thing is solid".


While that is a possibility, if you rewatch the fight, the Shadowbroker only activates his shield after Shepard starts punching him in melee combat. That would be a rather useless gesture, if it was simply a second kinetic barrier. He also attempts to hit Shepard in the style of a Dragon Age shield bash.


I never said it was a secondary kenetic barrier. Normal barriers are set to allow for slow moving objects to pass. That arm mounted shield is not. It's purpose is to stop everything which isn't a practical function is you are actually wearing the shield.

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Realistic is always realistic i miss the days when in games you could just ride down an highway blasting guns of an alien ship then hanging on to a missile and finishing it off from the air.As for the omni-blade i'll take anything over the worthless elbow.

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I don't mind the Omniblade but I personally don't see the point in this new feature. I guess it's just to make things look cooler but that doesn't make a game for me.

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I never said it was a secondary kenetic barrier. Normal barriers are set to allow for slow moving objects to pass. That arm mounted shield is not. It's purpose is to stop everything which isn't a practical function is you are actually wearing the shield.


Apologies for misinterpreting your statement then, but I have to ask what is the argument? Based on the shadowbroker, that would be a clear indicator that the omnitool is capable of manifesting solid objects, in which case the omniblade would fall under the same logic (or lack of logic, depending on your standpoint).

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SpiffySquee wrote...

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The omni-tool is a "minifacturing" device. It could make stuff out of geth parts, spend thermal clips or random pieces of of metal or ceramic litered about.

The Shadow Broker shield is a arm mounted kenetic barrier device. The aesthetic orange image is just an indicator that it is operational and a visual display of its active range. Please, try to answer your own question before asking me. You're not even trying. I'm repeating what I just told you. Read what I posted beforehand carefully. Also, note I editted some stuff in there.


Rather oddly shaped field...wouldn't you say?


It doesn't have to perfectly fit the shape of the field itself. It on needs to display the active range of it's protection. A field itself would be is "fluid" and "formless". However you would describe gravity I guess.  This isn't proof either way, but I notice during that Fight Shepard always pushes against the Broker's forearm. He never interacts with the outer perimeter of the hologram. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at no point does he physically apply force to the holograhic image itself in a manner that screams "this thing is solid".


Not quite sure what you mean about the field being shapeless and formless. All kenetic barriers have shape and form in ME, usually surrounding the object it protects.

I just watched the the fight again, an it is clear that the shield extends from his omni tool, so you would have to argue that his omni tool also doubled as an arm mounted kenetic barrier device which we have never seen it do before. We have, however, seen it materialize holograms with substance "like the combat drone". Also, their are times where it appears shepard's entire upper body is pushing against the whole shield, not just the shadow brokers arm. I also want to point out that it has the same links in it's design that are in the Tech armor. If the holographic display of tech armor were merely for show, why have it? All that would do is alert the enemy that you have tech armor. It is far more likely, that the tech armor, and the shield are the same thing the onmi blade is made of.


An omni-tool can be modified. Who is to say the SB had a commercial mass produced omni-tool if it was an omni-toll at all.

As I said previously, an AI drone can be a tiny drone projecting a holographic shell. Tech holograms let the user and the opponent know its up and running. And I must stress that a hologram is by definition immaterial. If it is solid it is NOT a hologram. If it's not a hologram it's literally D&D magic.

As I mentioned in another post. Shepard pushes against the SB's forearm. At no point does he push against the outer perimeter of the hologram.

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The Twilight God wrote...

Someone asked why no one complained about sentinel shields, drones or the SB shield. I am replying to that sentiment. The other holograms can be explained within the context of the mass effect universe. The omniblade is pure Lord of the Rings magic. No way around it.

To your other question, omni-tools appearantly applies medi-gel at range through some sophisticated use of scanning tech and mass effect fields. Overload causes a electromagnetic blast whose epicenter spreads from a singular point in space next to enemies. Using omni-gel to open containers which does not require direct physical contact. So, yes, the omni-tool can do things from a distance. Another way to look at it is gameplay mechanics necessitating  this.


 I'll give you the medi-gel since I see your point, though I've always had to activated a container to open it with omni-gel, which would count as touching it, and shorting out someone's shields is not the same as building something at any time or location from 20 feet away.  For your theory to be right, the omni tool can build a machine out of the sands of Tachanka, or from the solid smooth floor of a collector platform since I can summon a drone in both of those locations and it materializes no where near me. This also does not explain why My melee attack stops at the outside shell of the drone. According to you it would pass right through to the core.

Even if you are right, then the omni tool can just as easily create a metal core surrounded by a holographic design for the omni blade.