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[dandin384]

They gave one to Alenko, who was a staff lieutenant in ME1 but a Commander in ME2. Shepard only saved the cidatel and the council (at least for me) and stopped the collectors from abducting entire human colonies. If thats not worthy of one promotion, then Alenko must have been busy in the 2 years shepard was being brought back to life.

What do you think?  

[bleetman]

Problem is, Shepard went rogue from the Alliance in ME2. For all intents and purposes, he/she's not actually part of their military anymore. It's also seemingly become somewhat iconic, the rank has practically become his/her first name at this point.

I've also gotten something of a vibe that the "commander" rank has become Shepard's Colonel Badass status. High enough to be important, but not so high as to be one of those pencil-pushing desk-jockey higher-ups.

Modifié par bleetman, 04 août 2011 - 04:06 .

[Drake_Hound]

Why does Shepard need a promotion when he is a Spectre .
Hmmm for those in ME2 without ME1 they should be gotten there spectre status back in ME3 .

[Fata Morgana]

I actually like the fact that Kaidan outranks Shep in this one.

Because Shep doesn't need rank to be a certified badass. She's not going to feel petty jealousy because of something as pointless as that. Shep gets the job done, and that's all that matters.

[TheBlackBaron]

I'd be happy if they just referred to him as "Captain" while on the Normandy, like they're supposed to.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Shepard doesn't need rank.
S/He's got the all powerful Charm/Intimidate.

[Drake_Hound]

Captain Shepard versus Commander Shepard ....

Nah like the Commander more , even if his authority is the same as the captain .

[Han Shot First]

Drake_Hound wrote...

Why does Shepard need a promotion when he is a Spectre .
Hmmm for those in ME2 without ME1 they should be gotten there spectre status back in ME3 .

Spectre status is something entirely seperate from the military chain of command.

Spectre is also not a rank.

Shepard should have been promoted after the Battle of the Citadel, but I suspect Bioware didn't because promote him because Captain Shepard doesn't have the iconic ring to it that Commander Shepard does.

That being said, going into Mass Effect 3 Bioware has now created the Staff Commander rank, which Kaidan (if he still lives) has apparently been promoted to. This means he now outranks Shepard if Shep is still a Lt Commander.. Kind of silly really, and it should be rectified by also promoting Shepard to Staff Commander.

[PhatSeeJay]

Han Shot First wrote...

Drake_Hound wrote...

Why does Shepard need a promotion when he is a Spectre .
Hmmm for those in ME2 without ME1 they should be gotten there spectre status back in ME3 .

Spectre status is something entirely seperate from the military chain of command.

Spectre is also not a rank.

Shepard should have been promoted after the Battle of the Citadel, but I suspect Bioware didn't because promote him because Captain Shepard doesn't have the iconic ring to it that Commander Shepard does.

That being said, going into Mass Effect 3 Bioware has now created the Staff Commander rank, which Kaidan (if he still lives) has apparently been promoted to. This means he now outranks Shepard if Shep is still a Lt Commander.. Kind of silly really, and it should be rectified by also promoting Shepard to Staff Commander.

This is probably where I see them solving that. By giving Shepard a promotion to fullblown Commander. If a promotion would actually be a subjcet in ME3, that is. I'm not sure where Staff Commander fits in the rank hierarchy, but it shouldn't outrank a Commander?

[Han Shot First]

IIRC the Alliance rank structure just has a Lt. Commander and a Staff Commander rank.

[CrazyRah]

Yeah the codex say that they got Lt. Commander and Staff Commander

[lolnoobs]

How about Coach Commander Shepard?

[Drake_Hound]

How about new rank Spectre Commander Shepard... solves argueing among spectres too who is the boss ?

[jeweledleah]

the only way Shepard should get a promotion is if they rejoin alliance in ME3. currently, Shepard is not formally part of the alliance.

[TheBlackBaron]

The Alliance's rank structure is extremely messed up, judging by the lone codex article we have detailing it. For example, a Marine Major is considered equivalent to a Navy Captain and outranks both ranks of Commander, and Colonel seems to have disappeared entirely. That makes no sense.

Honestly, Shepard just needs to get promoted sideways from the Marines to the Navy (like Anderson) and then upped to full bird Captain. He's due.

[Han Shot First]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

The Alliance's rank structure is extremely messed up, judging by the lone codex article we have detailing it. For example, a Marine Major is considered equivalent to a Navy Captain and outranks both ranks of Commander, and Colonel seems to have disappeared entirely. That makes no sense.

Honestly, Shepard just needs to get promoted sideways from the Marines to the Navy (like Anderson) and then upped to full bird Captain. He's due.

Yeah, the rank structure is a little jacked up and hard to make sense of.

The Major should be the equivalent of a Lt Commander.

[Doofe2012]

@theblackbaron

The Alliance Navy and Marines aren't so much like the United States branches as they are European militaries. It's one branch, but Marines retain their traditional titles. Shepard is in the Navy, but his job is that of a Marine. That's why in some conversations he introduces himself as "Commander Shepard, Alliance Navy." It's also why they don't really capitalize marines in the game, and why Ashley on Horizon says, "I'm an Alliance soldier." You wouldn't hear any US Marine worth their salt refer to themselves as a soldier.

As for the Major thing, I think that was a legit mess-up and Colonel should have gone there instead.

[shepskisaac]

You're scared it will be Shepard now serving under Kaidan? ;P

[Shepard Lives]

Shepard doesn't need rank.

[Ulicus]

Han Shot First wrote...

Spectre status is something entirely seperate from the military chain of command.

Spectre is also not a rank.

In ME1, it's made pretty clear that Shepard is effectively "retired" from the Alliance the minute she becomes a Spectre. While she still works with them more often than not, she's not a part of their chain of command, anymore. As Anderson says, she answers only to the Council.

I mean, Hackett can't order her to do anything, no matter how much he might insist that she's still Alliance.

If Kaidan has been promoted since becoming a Spectre then thigns are slightly more problematic, as it would seem to fly in the face of the implications of ME1.

TheBlackBaron wrote...

I'd be happy if they just referred to him as "Captain" while on the Normandy, like they're supposed to.

Me too.

[Patchwork]

By being made a spectre isn't Shepard essentially taken out of the Alliance command structure? There can't a promotion because he/she is longer answerable to the Alliance.

I'd be happy if they just referred to him as "Captain" while on the Normandy, like they're supposed to.

ITA more captain/skipper etc! But Shepard actually being a commander not a captain captain was likely deemed a concept too confusing for us simpleton gamers to grasp.

[ladyvader]

Han Shot First wrote...

Drake_Hound wrote...

Why does Shepard need a promotion when he is a Spectre .
Hmmm for those in ME2 without ME1 they should be gotten there spectre status back in ME3 .

Spectre status is something entirely seperate from the military chain of command.

Spectre is also not a rank.

Shepard should have been promoted after the Battle of the Citadel, but I suspect Bioware didn't because promote him because Captain Shepard doesn't have the iconic ring to it that Commander Shepard does.

That being said, going into Mass Effect 3 Bioware has now created the Staff Commander rank, which Kaidan (if he still lives) has apparently been promoted to. This means he now outranks Shepard if Shep is still a Lt Commander.. Kind of silly really, and it should be rectified by also promoting Shepard to Staff Commander.

The rank of Staff Commander is in ME1 codex.  It isn't a newly created rank.  Anderson mentioned it when asking about Kaidan when you see him before Horizon.

[darthnick427]

Yeah her needs to be promoted to Staff Commander or Supreme Commander. If nothing else. I think Shepard has freakin deserved it.

[General_Chino]

darthnick427, I love your garrus sig. LOL

[Clonedzero]

well he was dead for 2 years so they probably tossed the paper work before, then he ran around freelance working for a "terrorist" organization.

so, no. he shouldnt get promoted, he's not exactly a by the books guy that you promote.