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[Celtic Latino]

pixieface wrote...

Eh. I love my Warden but her time is up. Cameos are good and fine, but anymore than that and it feels like setting a dead horse on fire while dragging it behind another horse, and beating both horses as you race in a horse race.

I think it's far more likely we'll see a new character, after finishing up with Hawke via DLC. That would make me super happy.

You said my opinion best. It's the same reason I don't want Hawke to be the main character for DA3 either, their stories are told within the game, and I don't like keeping around a single main character for too long, it gets monotonous and it's almost certain that your decisions with either character wind up getting retconned, which is sure to ****** more than one player off. 

The Warden can potentially sacrifice him or herself to the Archdemon to save everyone, so in many games the Warden is dead. Adding that Hawke's storyline takes place at least seven years after the Blight, the corruption obviously begins to take over the Warden's body should he/she survived. 

I like the idea of a new character for DA3 BUT....it would be cool if race selection (human, elf, dwarf) and some of the features from Origins (dual wielding warriors, arcane warriors) returned, effectively keeping both Origins and DA2 fans happy. 

[RVNX]

Celtic Latino wrote...

pixieface wrote...

Eh. I love my Warden but her time is up. Cameos are good and fine, but anymore than that and it feels like setting a dead horse on fire while dragging it behind another horse, and beating both horses as you race in a horse race.

I think it's far more likely we'll see a new character, after finishing up with Hawke via DLC. That would make me super happy.

You said my opinion best. It's the same reason I don't want Hawke to be the main character for DA3 either, their stories are told within the game, and I don't like keeping around a single main character for too long, it gets monotonous and it's almost certain that your decisions with either character wind up getting retconned, which is sure to ****** more than one player off. 

The Warden can potentially sacrifice him or herself to the Archdemon to save everyone, so in many games the Warden is dead. Adding that Hawke's storyline takes place at least seven years after the Blight, the corruption obviously begins to take over the Warden's body should he/she survived. 

I like the idea of a new character for DA3 BUT....it would be cool if race selection (human, elf, dwarf) and some of the features from Origins (dual wielding warriors, arcane warriors) returned, effectively keeping both Origins and DA2 fans happy. 

I agree with this, especially the last part!

[Ad Dugg]

Hawke could still be in DAIII could he not? That's why he was given a voice, so you can read our save data and have him prance into the story. I'm on to you Bioware.

If only the Warden had a voice...Or a storyline where they get their tongue ripped out.

[Nadijeh]

Well I hope there's a pretty beefy expansion on the way at least, cause I really like Hawk, and the characters of this game. Plus I really want to play through Starkhaven!

Modifié par Jesira, 07 août 2011 - 09:10 .

[dsl08002]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.

And that's all I can say about that.

That is a very big problem considering in my opinion the fiasco of DA2. There where to many quastions instead of answers.  for example 

what happened next, what happend to the warden and the champion, the events from DAO,DAA, DAO dlc how did they get an impact on a story, what happend to the the rest of the party members, etc etc. 

I am sorry, but bioware  please don´t continue on that road. Introducing a new protaganist will only create another story that all players will fail to keep track on.

Then why should you play origin and DA2 if you cannot continue The main characters story,  it just seems so utterly USELESS!! a waste of time!!

you must first make a ultimate end of the story for the warden and the champion. 

Let DA3 be a adventure that will follow the warden because he/she must discover what morrigan is up to or you must protect ferelden from orlais     

Modifié par dsl08002, 07 août 2011 - 10:43 .

[Morroian]

dsl08002 wrote...

Then why should you play origin and DA2 if you cannot continue The main characters story,  it just seems so utterly USELESS!! a waste of time!!

Not if one wants to see where the world of Thedas is going. The story of both games is complete in the game, the fact that the fate of the characters is open doesn't mean the future game should continue theior story. The warden's importance ended when the blight ended, from all accounts Hawke's importance ended with the split of the mages and Templars from the chantry. 

Modifié par Morroian, 07 août 2011 - 10:54 .

[blothulfur]

No.

[Krytheos]

Nope. The Warden's importance has ended; Hawke's importance has ended; they both 'disappeared.' Chances are, completely different protagonist in 3 [I would welcome this because I don't want to play as the Warden or as Hawke, even though I enjoyed playing as both of them] as they're stories are 'essentially finished.' The only thing that would keep Hawke in is an expansion pack that revolved around the remaining free-states, like Starkhaven and such in the Free Marches.

Aside from that, Hawke's story and the Warden's are both DONE. The Warden and Hawke might be featured ally's one day. Sure. Possibility. But I don't see either returning as the protagonist in any subsequent games.

[KenKenpachi]

Unlikely, him and Hawke may show as NPC's on the PC's team or as part of some "Final battle" but I suspect you'll play as either a Qunari given how much has been left unresolved with them and how we see more of them as the games progress. Or as some seeker for the Chantry.

[ScotGaymer]

I agree with the folks saying they would be against the Warden and Hawke being the Protagonist of DA3 for the simple reason that by the time DA3 comes out lots of people might no longer have DAO or DA2 installed and thus could import a save game.

And if the crap import of DAO to DA2 is anything to go by half the flags will be missing, or there will be a lot of nonsensical cameos from characters that have no business being where they are.

For example the igmonious end of Sophia Dryden in DA2 if you let her go in DAO. She was a fairly interesting character in DAO that was a pretty difficult fight in DAO and in DA2 she is reduced to a random enemy that Hawke cuts down in about 2 seconds flat.

DA3 needs a whole new protagonist and a whole new story.

EDIT:
A sequel does not necessarily have to have the same protagonist.

Examples of good games with sequels that DONT have the same protagonist that immediately jump to mind are Phantasy Star games; Phantasy Star 1 has Alis/Alisa Landale Queen of Algol, Phantasy Star 2 has her possible descendant Rolf/Eusis as the main character; Phantasy Star 3 went off on a rather insane tangent, and Phantasy Star 4 has Chaz Ashley as the main character.
Also there is the Final Fantasy games of course each being a whole new world not just new characters.
Pretty much all of the forgotten realms RPGs.
There are many others.

People dont cry about it in those fandoms; why are people crying about it in this one?

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 07 août 2011 - 11:36 .

[Costin_Razvan]

For example the igmonious end of Sophia Dryden in DA2 if you let her go in DAO. She was a fairly interesting character in DAO that was a pretty difficult fight in DAO and in DA2 she is reduced to a random enemy that Hawke cuts down in about 2 seconds flat.

Huh? I killed her in a few seconds flat in DA:O. Very damned easy boss.

[nitefyre410]

FitScotGaymer wrote...

I agree with the folks saying they would be against the Warden and Hawke being the Protagonist of DA3 for the simple reason that by the time DA3 comes out lots of people might no longer have DAO or DA2 installed and thus could import a save game.

And if the crap import of DAO to DA2 is anything to go by half the flags will be missing, or there will be a lot of nonsensical cameos from characters that have no business being where they are.

For example the igmonious end of Sophia Dryden in DA2 if you let her go in DAO. She was a fairly interesting character in DAO that was a pretty difficult fight in DAO and in DA2 she is reduced to a random enemy that Hawke cuts down in about 2 seconds flat.

DA3 needs a whole new protagonist and a whole new story.

EDIT:
A sequel does not necessarily have to have the same protagonist.

Examples of good games with sequels that DONT have the same protagonist that immediately jump to mind are Phantasy Star games; Phantasy Star 1 has Alis/Alisa Landale Queen of Algol, Phantasy Star 2 has her possible descendant Rolf/Eusis as the main character; Phantasy Star 3 went off on a rather insane tangent, and Phantasy Star 4 has Chaz Ashley as the main character.
Also there is the Final Fantasy games of course each being a whole new world not just new characters.
Pretty much all of the forgotten realms RPGs.
There are many others.
Persona 1, 2 , 3 and 4 
People dont cry about it in those fandoms; why are people crying about it in this one?

Bolded part  added for becasue the series does not get enough rep 

I have absolute no idea - we could  talking about ways to make the series better, new locals we want to see , even creating new ones but instead we are talking about the  Warden.

Hontestly as much as I like my  Warden - the next time I want to see  him is  with Alistar, and the others Wardens doing what the do best and by a new hero valuable time that is needed  to SAVE THE WORLD. I  really don't need to play as him again.

[Taritu]

Hawke's story really feels like it didn't end. You supposedly started it all, you're needed to put it back together, and...

[devSin]

David says Hawke's story isn't over. Whether that means feature DLC or expansion, or maybe just book, remains to be seen. Be it seems to suggest that Hawke's a-comin' back, for something at least.

I would love for them to finally bring the Warden back, get everybody all excited (my Warden died, so I guess I have to select some "default" character), and then have the game go through the Warden's Calling. The whole game is basically going out to try to get yourself killed.

I would laugh at all of you.

[turian councilor Knockout]

No and if Hawke is in it i'm not buying it, want a new character so fix Hawkes story in a expansion.

Modifié par turian councilor Knockout, 08 août 2011 - 07:58 .

[Aradace]

devSin wrote...

David says Hawke's story isn't over. Whether that means feature DLC or expansion, or maybe just book, remains to be seen. Be it seems to suggest that Hawke's a-comin' back, for something at least.

I would love for them to finally bring the Warden back, get everybody all excited (my Warden died, so I guess I have to select some "default" character), and then have the game go through the Warden's Calling. The whole game is basically going out to try to get yourself killed.

I would laugh at all of you.

It's already been stated that the rest of Hawke's story will be told through DLC, so that much Im not "worried" about.  As for the latter part of your post, I wouldnt be able to say with a strait face that I wouldnt at least be a "little bit" amused.  Though, we know that wont happen though

[Wulfram]

Aradace wrote...

It's already been stated that the rest of Hawke's story will be told through DLC, so that much Im not "worried" about

Though as Mr Laidlaw has recognised, DLC is too short for there to be any meaningful impactful decisions in them, so nothing significant can be added to Hawke's story in them.

[Aradace]

Wulfram wrote...

Aradace wrote...

It's already been stated that the rest of Hawke's story will be told through DLC, so that much Im not "worried" about

Though as Mr Laidlaw has recognised, DLC is too short for there to be any meaningful impactful decisions in them, so nothing significant can be added to Hawke's story in them.

How do you figure?  Just because you cant have a "meaningful or impactful" decision in the DLC doesnt mean it still cant tell the rest of Hawke's story.  You're going to tell me that there were any "meaningful" decisions to be made in DA2 to begin with? seriously?

[Bobad]

I think DA3 will involve searching for missing persons, ending up with the PC going missing.

[Bobad]

Double Post.

Modifié par Bobad, 08 août 2011 - 01:51 .

[Wulfram]

Aradace wrote...

How do you figure?  Just because you cant have a "meaningful or impactful" decision in the DLC doesnt mean it still cant tell the rest of Hawke's story.  You're going to tell me that there were any "meaningful" decisions to be made in DA2 to begin with? seriously?

It can tell the rest of Hawke's story so long as the rest of Hawke's story doesn't amount to very much.  Whereas I'd rather have an expansion which allowed Hawke do something meaningful, so that the game seems like less of a shaggy dog story.

[Aradace]

Wulfram wrote...

Aradace wrote...

How do you figure?  Just because you cant have a "meaningful or impactful" decision in the DLC doesnt mean it still cant tell the rest of Hawke's story.  You're going to tell me that there were any "meaningful" decisions to be made in DA2 to begin with? seriously?

 Whereas I'd rather have an expansion which allowed Hawke do something meaningful,

Now that I can get on board with, I think an expansion would be great as well

[Reznore57]

I really like Dragon age 2 and origin .But the idea to create a new character again bother me a lot.
You grow fond of the character you play only to see him disapearing at the end. So we can't really change the story going on (which i can deal with) and we cannot keep our "hero".
I really don't think it's gonna work out , people will just grow away from this universe.
Anyway i will probably play Dragon age 3, but that's a huge disapointment for me.

Modifié par Reznore57, 08 août 2011 - 05:01 .