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Do you think the Warden will be the main character for Dragon age 3?


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Zoikster

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If I have to move on from the Warden, you have to move on from Hawke. Just sayin'. I'd totally be down with something new and fresh though. I just can't see the people claiming to want more of Hawke, while at the same time saying no to the Warden. Hogwash.

Modifié par Zoikster, 14 août 2011 - 05:14 .


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Bioware has stated that neither the Warden or Hawke are going to the main character in DA 3. The Warden story is done.

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Zoikster

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Bioware has stated that neither the Warden or Hawke are going to the main character in DA 3. The Warden story is done.


I saw that (which is why I said I'd be down for something new and fresh), but I disagree, either story was truly done. Both stories left a lot of questions. Just clamining the warden's story is done doesn't make it so.

Modifié par Zoikster, 14 août 2011 - 05:24 .


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I loved the idea of a new protagonist for each main game but it seems the call for the return of the warden is just too great to ignore (i for one will fall in this group)
so couldn't bioware do something to meet this demand? I suggest an expansion relating to warden, i mean they've done dlcs for back story or alternate universes that does tie in to the main game but seperate in its own right. As an idea it could be set after DA2 and before DA3 to bring more thedas to life but with the warden. It feels to me that both hawkes and the wardens story isn't finished and deserve a better pay off than possible refrences and cameos in later games.

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Zoikster wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Bioware has stated that neither the Warden or Hawke are going to the main character in DA 3. The Warden story is done.


I saw that (which is why I said I'd be down for something new and fresh), but I disagree, either story was truly done. Both stories left a lot of questions. Just clamining the warden's story is done doesn't make it so.

It's certainly done for the Ultimate Sacrifice. In any event the warden will end up dying soon enough.

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I loved DA:O, hated DA2 and loved all my Wardens.  That being said I hope the Warden doesn't make a comeback, as they have the personalities I gave them and bioware could never give them the same ones in a voiced game.

Unless mabey they pull a KotOR , where the main character wakes up with amnesia and ends up following the path of the Warden only to find out late in the game they ARE the Warden....

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Zoikster wrote...

If I have to move on from the Warden, you have to move on from Hawke. Just sayin'. I'd totally be down with something new and fresh though. I just can't see the people claiming to want more of Hawke, while at the same time saying no to the Warden. Hogwash.


The Warden's story is about the blight, thats over, its easier to argue that DA2 essentially played out like an origin story for Hawke.

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Interesting, I just hope every PC doesn't have an open ending like the Warden. I'm hoping Hawke doesn't suffer that fate as well.

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I don't care if we continue with Hawke or we start another character of the same style. But I really don't want to go back to the Warden or a similar generic character.

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Maconbar wrote...

It's certainly done for the Ultimate Sacrifice. In any event the warden will end up dying soon enough.

Maybe the Warden will be way past their Calling. You'll be all ghoulish, with your skin sloughing off and your hair falling out, with red eyes and only two teeth.

They could get around having the voice, too, because you'd sound like a mutant freak.

BABY! ROOF!

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nitefyre410 wrote...

Bioware has stated that neither the Warden or Hawke are going to the main character in DA 3. The Warden story is done.

Mike never said that the Warden's story was done. He just said he/she wouldn't be in DA3.

Modifié par M8DMAN, 15 août 2011 - 04:04 .


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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.

And that's all I can say about that.


well hopefully the next charcter will be our character, not a limited response voice acted puppet like Hawke (that approach works find for Shepard, but I found it lacking in DA2)

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M8DMAN wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Bioware has stated that neither the Warden or Hawke are going to the main character in DA 3. The Warden story is done.

Mike never said that the Warden's story was done. He just said he/she wouldn't be in DA3.


Mike didn't say the Warden wouldn't be in DA3, just that the Warden won't be the main protagonist.

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i understand warden but not continuing with hawke is an insult. i know bioware sucks on continuity but they should at least give a try with hawke after all this champion crap they gave to us.

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tanerb123 wrote...

i understand warden but not continuing with hawke is an insult. i know bioware sucks on continuity but they should at least give a try with hawke after all this champion crap they gave to us.


David Gaider implied Hawke would be back, just not as  a protagonist. I'm really ok with both not being protagonists, as long as we see them both return in some form.

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I don't like the idea of having a character i played getting out of my hand neither.
I don't want to see my Hawke/warden walking around , saying/doing things I might not like.
That's what NPC are for .
If we have to move on to another character ,i want to be able to have some sense of closure.
Whether they die or retire in a farm or whatever i don't mind.

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CSick wrote...

i am disappointed by this news. it seems silly for every game to have a new person that's supposed to be the strongest guy in the world. also, despite other people's opinions, the story of the warden felt very unfinished to me. there's still a lot of questions to be answered regarding the whole Morrigan situation. if they don't bring him back as a playable character, then i at least want to find out what the hell happened to him.


You and me both.  I don't necessarily mind playing a new character, but the way DAO was left off had a lot of unanswered questions and unfinished business and seemed to heavily imply future adventures, I think they should've had a decent expansion/DLC (Awakening didn't seem to really carry things forward to be honest).  Your companions (assuming you lived) invited you to go spend time with them, etc.  That would've been kinda fun.  But Bioware made it clear after Witch Hunt, no more DLC/expansions for DA:O and then we got DA:2

Even more of an abrupt ending.

How I long for the days of BG/BG2 again, but it seems that's an extreme rarity nowadays.

But it is what it is, I guess I must be getting old.

:)

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Morroian wrote...

Zoikster wrote...

If I have to move on from the Warden, you have to move on from Hawke. Just sayin'. I'd totally be down with something new and fresh though. I just can't see the people claiming to want more of Hawke, while at the same time saying no to the Warden. Hogwash.


The Warden's story is about the blight, thats over, its easier to argue that DA2 essentially played out like an origin story for Hawke.


But both stories are finished. Hawke and the Wardens stories are finished... that does not mean they left loose ends that involve other things happening in the rest of Thedas.

In other words. THe story that these characters play a significant role are finished but they are just threads in a larger tapestry.

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I have given this some more thought. They could bring back the warden, like they did shepard. However, can you imagine the: 'I cant make my warden look like they did in origins' rants? Especially with the new engine.

Hawke would be alot easier to bring back, they already have a voice and personalities.

Am I skeptical about a third protagonist? Yes I still am, but we can only wait and see.

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The Warden's story was fine and complete. But then the whole mysterious vanishing thing popped up.

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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.

And that's all I can say about that.


Well Mike, I hope, that the Warden will find a HappyEnd and not just "he vanished and was never been seen..."

What you've done at the end of DA2 was a shock to me and others <_< I want to know what happened to him and if my Warden will be together with his LI again :crying:

And please: No more cliffhangers. DA:O/DA:A were games with a story and an end! Not like DAII with this open end and soo many questions...

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Bioware had a great thing going, DAO but left us all hanging and then no closure or ending..........not cool.

Bioware did that again with DA2............

I predict DA3 will be the same, no real ending or closure, leaving us all hanging once again, not cool.

I would of liked my Warden to continue on with Morrigan through the mirror, but if no, then there can't be anything to do with Hawke either and the DA3 character must be new and fresh, prehaps the God baby???

I also think DA3 will mainly be muliti-player and released in about 2 years time and not too much will be changed from DA2.

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Origins, you stopped the Blight. DA2, Cassandra found out what happened at Kirkwall. In each game, the thing that needed doing was done. Let's not confuse "the end" with "to be continued".

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I'm rather curious what the plan is regarding how things ended in DA2.  It seemed like Hawke had become important enough to the situation in Thedas that the character was necessary, and Hawke would be responsible for fixing it.  Then again, this would really cement the idea that it was really more a story about things happening to Hawke, rather than Hawke making things happen.


I suppose hearing about this might get people to really hanker for DLC or maybe an expansion (doubtful, I know).  I mean, there was enough left open regarding Hawke and company that I think most of us would like to see what happens to them.  It wouldn't have to deal with the world as a whole since that'll be saved for DA3, but something other than, "he disappeared," would be nice.  Of course, they could just as easily keep it mysterious to keep a common theme among the protagonists.


MrProliferation wrote...

I think the Warden is not an
option because too many people have dead wardens and what do you do with
them? That was one of the things they cited for switching to Hawke in
DA2 because continuing the Warden would mean more retcons and
strangeness for people whose Warden died.

I for one continue to
believe that DA3 will have the Godbaby as the PC. Assuming DA3 will take
place several years after DA2, it's more than believable the Godbaby
would be of age. It's also a character more like the Warden where you
can sort of carve them out and shape them. Of course, that would also
involve some retcons if your Warden turned Morrigan down, but not ones
impossible to overcome.


That is something I thought of too.  On the one hand, I can easily see them opting to use the Godbaby as the PC since a lot of people have been wanting that, and it'd be a pretty cool tie-in to Origins.   But like you said, the baby wasn't made in everyone's playthroughs, so you'd have plenty of people complaining that Bioware was ignoring their choices.  Some might not buy the game because the main character shouldn't exist.   Of course, as we've seen, some choices from Origins did get nullified in 2, so who knows?

Risax wrote...

Even though I would've liked to play as Hawke or the Warden again, I've played plenty of JRPG's.
So I'm pretty much used to playing a new character every new game.


The big difference would be that JRPGs tend to not be direct sequels. 

Modifié par Greed1914, 17 août 2011 - 04:03 .


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Please carry on win Hawke! I have grown attached to default female and male Hawke, the sarcasm and wit suits them perfectly, if not this then carry on with another member of the Amell family, i love beingan apostate!