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[jbrand2002uk]

Well the sigs just a quote from Legacy that Varric says had me in stitches at the radomness of it so i thought i'd have it as my sig lol

[goandkissurmuthersbehind]

dsl08002 wrote...

Even if the story is about thedas there is always a hero on the center of the plot and before we have DA3 we have hawke and the hero of ferelden and both of them have a hero status although hawke has a minor considering hawke was only in Kirkwall, but never the less if they are going to bring in a new character then they need to end the story of those before.

They say that the Hero of fereldens story ended in DAO but how is that possible even if some died and some didn´t when you have DAA who happens half a year after DAO with a possible Hero of fereldedn at point who has risen to the rank of warden commander.

Then a year after DAA The golems of amgarak happens with The hero of ferelden going down to the deep roads.

Then its the Witch hunt dlc that happens Three years after DAA with the hero of ferelden tracking down morrigan and learns of the coming war between mages/templars and that Flemeth is alive.

They cant say just like that the hero of fereldens story is finished after origin when they gave you the oppurtunity to continue the story afterwards.

The same thing goes for hawke even if there are dlc:s underway, if you dont have a conclusion then continue on the character.

the protagonists aren't the center of any plot they are just being used by flemeth
Thedas is the chessboard the protagonist are pawns flemeth is the one moving them.the only thing unclear is? who is opossing her?
as for their story being finished NO its not finished they just dont follow them anymore since they did their part in the story
its like the hero was good to get rid of the AD and hawke was only good to start the war between mages and templars
 so what else happens in their lives is irreleveant to the story for now when they are needed again (lets say they need the warden to get rid of another AD) they will be back
untill then their storys or kept on ice,but for now they have no use for either of them

[Huntress]

This game is not similar to the sword of truth where the hero/saviour/seeker of truth go around trying to save the land and the people from evil, and yes people died all the time with him as hero.

Now this is more of Game of throne style, You meet Ned and the King until they are killed, then is ned childrens/ King's childrens..
Then you meet the head and fingers that move and plot/scheme inside The City where the rulers sit..
Sometimes this characters are killed or just put on "Hold", you meet them later on doing what they do best : being heroic or fleeing.. you get what am trying to say? Games of thrones doesn't have a hero per say is about a country at war and many many players who play a part on it. Some are Knight style others are just.. well pawns.. the only important thing in a game of thrones is: /Queen Cersei: Not losing you're head. lol!

[Jerrybnsn]

The Mass Effect series has proven that people don't want to play the same character and continue on with their stories. So, there will be no returning Warden. And the doubled sales figues of Origins over DA2 has shown people prefer the new direction that Bioware has gone with its uninspiring character who is nothing more than a glorified Fedex delivery person. So again, no.

[dsl08002]

Just wondering outloud here regarding if The warden could return as protaganist is how it would be to a number of players and to the adventure and storyline in DA franchise, could it be good or bad, vioced or unvioced etc. and ignore please for a moment that bioware has announced the wardens story is over.

Comment pro and against and keep it civil and polite

Pro

1 Single hero
2 Had a bigger impact on DA world( people and places)
3 Saved the world from the Blight
4 origin and diolouge felt more personal
5 leliana, morrigan as romance options could have an impact on storyline
6 Possible Famous all around thedas
7 both hawke and the warden as protaganist

Against

1 Could have died in DAO main reason
2 Silent or voiced could ruin the character personality
3 Could be boring in the long run with saving the world again

[Tezzajh]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

The Mass Effect series has proven that people don't want to play the same character and continue on with their stories. So, there will be no returning Warden. And the doubled sales figues of Origins over DA2 has shown people prefer the new direction that Bioware has gone with its uninspiring character who is nothing more than a glorified Fedex delivery person. So again, no.

thats not what i have heard, when i look at mass effect 3 people are always talking about importing love intrests thats one of the biggest features of that game, so if people were against a single character then they wouldnt be so excited for that feature would they?

and the sales doubled beacuse combat was changed for a wider auidence along with a voiced main character

[Tezzajh]

lol my bad

[thenemesis1]

Mike said the Warden will not be a character we play or the pc ever again....when I heard that I wanted to throw him under the bus like he did the Warden. I can't stand people that see a fail when they know they have what works right there. I'am tired of their retread BS, thats all they have. I like the Warden and some things are worth fighting for. Most have lost intrest in this DA saga and I can see why.. but they just push forth with the same BS and tell you to deal with it.....you dont have to.

[SoulRebel_1979]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

The Mass Effect series has proven that people don't want to play the same character and continue on with their stories. So, there will be no returning Warden. And the doubled sales figues of Origins over DA2 has shown people prefer the new direction that Bioware has gone with its uninspiring character who is nothing more than a glorified Fedex delivery person. So again, no.

lol

[Morroian]

thenemesis1 wrote...

Mike said the Warden will not be a character we play or the pc ever again....when I heard that I wanted to throw him under the bus like he did the Warden.

Get a grip, the warden wasn't thrown under a bus or betrayed, thats just ridiculous hyperbole. The warden's story was over.

[billy the squid]

Morroian wrote...

thenemesis1 wrote...

Mike said the Warden will not be a character we play or the pc ever again....when I heard that I wanted to throw him under the bus like he did the Warden.

Get a grip, the warden wasn't thrown under a bus or betrayed, thats just ridiculous hyperbole. The warden's story was over.

The warden's story was reasonably well closed, there could be some conclusive endings within it other that the warden dying, so I didn't mind him or her not appearing again, it would have been nice, but I don't begrudge having a new character.

What I didn't like was certain cameo appearances which disregared the previous decisions. Leliana working for the devine as a seekerfor instance, it is quite possible that if she chose to be the warden's mistress or stay with him or her then she could have persued other quests alone for a time, but if she was dead, or Zevran and Anders. It raises the issue in Da3 as to how events such as this are going to be handled, whether they will respect the decisions which were made or simply disregard it entirely, not appealing, unless there is some very convincing reason other than it being required to make the story work.

[Davillo]

What yall don't realize is that most of the things you did in Origins don't really matter. Maybe to some extent, Bioware will have a CANON warden story for DA3 and I'm pretty sure its gonna be either an upstanding human noble who became the Hero of Ferelden who DIDNT Kill Leliana made Alistar or himself do the OGB thing

Another possibility is that the cannon warden is gonna be the Amell Mage who also becomes the hero of ferelden romances Morrigan does OGB and steps through the mirror.

So plesae don't dismiss it as oh they cant bring him back cuz this and that because what you did with your dwarf or elf does not matter. They could easily bring warden back, I made my havke very similar looking to my warden and all the customization options like haircuts etc from origins were in DA2.

I would love to see the warden back in some shape or form in DA3 he has to be, whatever the hell happens there is gonna be major and one of the most powerful mages in THedas or the most fierce warrior in Ferelden will be back I'm sure as hell. The thing is we don't know which one will be the Bioware Canon.

[Solari]

I think the warden/orlesian commander as well as Hawke will both play a role in DA3 since Leliana and Cassandra are looking for both of them and they can't just let the warden/orlesian commander and Hawke fall off the face of the earth. But I don't think he'll be playable. They should introduce a new character and let the other two make appearances. For me it would also seem unfair if the story continues with just Hawke because I connected with both of them but a little bit more with the warden.

And if they make them playable they should make them both playable so you can choose. Because Hawke's story is told as well as the story of the warden.

[Abispa]

Considering that it would be insanely difficult to make a Warden appearance that will make everyone happy, I'm surprised and disappointed that had Leliana use that stupid line, "This can be no coincidence." Not only do you have to worry about how s/he looks, but you also have to hire two VAs to perform four vocal tracks (the Dalish Warden should have the Irish accent of his/her clan).

And besides, unless the Warden was a human mage, s/he and Hawke have next to nothing to suggest a plausible reason why they should be together, unless Flemeth kidnapped them.

[Maria Caliban]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character.

Dear Laidlaw,

I love you.

Signed,
Maria Caliban

PS: Love is subject to change at any time. By accepting this love, you agree to not hold Maria responsible for any blindness, loss of limb, dry-mouth, ringing in head, or death resulting from love. You are not allowed to make copies, electric or otherwise, of this love, or distribute it in anyway. Love void in CA and NY. Please love responsibly.

[addiction21]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character.

Dear Laidlaw,

I love you.

Signed,
Maria Caliban

PS: Love is subject to change at any time. By accepting this love, you agree to not hold Maria responsible for any blindness, loss of limb, dry-mouth, ringing in head, or death resulting from love. You are not allowed to make copies, electric or otherwise, of this love, or distribute it in anyway. Love void in CA and NY. Please love responsibly.

Those things are not normal for love? Good thing I am in MD.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Abispa wrote...

Considering that it would be insanely difficult to make a Warden appearance that will make everyone happy, I'm surprised and disappointed that had Leliana use that stupid line, "This can be no coincidence." Not only do you have to worry about how s/he looks, but you also have to hire two VAs to perform four vocal tracks (the Dalish Warden should have the Irish accent of his/her clan).

And besides, unless the Warden was a human mage, s/he and Hawke have next to nothing to suggest a plausible reason why they should be together, unless Flemeth kidnapped them.

Well it might help if they fix the import bugs in Awakenings.  As for a warden's physcial looks, it's really simple with the invention of a little known artifact known as the mirror of transfiguration which is in the Black Emporium.   You import your warden in and you don't like their looks, go to the mirror and tweak.  Simple explanation....the warden has aged after 10+ years.  There will be a few of my wardens that I don't want their appearance changed, others I could care less.  Import or don't import and go with a default that they will likely make.  Simple.  I'd love to see my warden just walk through a scene if nothing else. Just for the fun of it.

I'm one of the players who will always be in favor of seeing the warden again and him/her playing as the main pc.  I'd also love to see my wardens and my hawkes together.  Will it happen, doubtful. 

It's obvious to me they don't want to do this for whatever reason.  They are also people loosing interest in this title because they won't return to the warden, OGB, and Morrigan's story.  I'm talking about wardens who did the DR, not the US wardens. 

Also, DAO was never marketed as Thedas being the main character when the first game came out. They didn't start with that explanation until they decided to change the engine and rebuild from scratch and what do you know, Thedas is all of a sudden the main character.  DAO also was never marketed as a triology either.  

If the warden's story is over then there is no reason for the level cap to remain in DAO & DAA.   Have we seen seen a patch to unlock this?   Hmmmm, no. 

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 29 septembre 2011 - 09:31 .

[suprhomre]

 Although i love the Warden and his/hers story. But, for me their story is over. i'm looking forward to know more about Hawke. It wouldn't hurt to see the Warden though. 

[Aradace]

In a nutshell, no, your warden will NOT be the protagonist for the next DA game. Two primary reasons being that A.) It's been stated already they're going to have a different protagonist for each installment.
And B.) (See my signature) They will NOT be going back to a silent/stoic protagonist. I also think I've seen somewhere that they are keeping the current "art direction" as well which is yet another reason your Warden wont be the PC. While some folks would be ok with him/her looking "different" others would not. That's a can of worms that BW apparently doesnt want to touch and with good reason.

So yea, dont hold your breath on ever playing your warden again unless you plug in your copy of Origins. They've even stated that they're going to be resolving the OGB situation in the near future. And my money is on it not involving your warden (beyond him/her being mentioned in dialog) in any direct way.

Like it, hate it, or indifferent to it (Im in the third camp myself tbqh) your warden is done and the chances of ever getting to play him/her again are pretty much slim to none.  Either way, it's time to move on for those who havent already.

Modifié par Aradace, 29 septembre 2011 - 09:59 .

[Tezzajh]

knowing that the warden and hawke wont return im wondering is there anypoint getting the dlc, it feels a waste of money trying to continue with hawke when it seems bioware just wants you to consider him/her dead. and when they say its about the world not the character that just means we are not going to try and continue the story because A. costs to much B. to much effort and if theres a dragon age 4 im not gonna buy it because dragon age 1 and 2 was about starting rubbish rising to hero, dragon age 3 = new character, same story

[Tezzajh]

Aradace wrote...

 They will NOT be going back to a silent/stoic protagonist. .

why does everyone assume this? of course they would use voice and new look, its called upgrading

[Yuqi]

I think they are going to do another interactive comic, to fix the import issues. The warden could come back, its not impossible, just highly unlikely.

If they stick a defualt HN male down our throats, those who played female P.C's will be in an uproar.

[Aradace]

Tezzajh wrote...

Aradace wrote...

 They will NOT be going back to a silent/stoic protagonist. .

why does everyone assume this? of course they would use voice and new look, its called upgrading

Because believe it or not, there are some folks who are still very naive in believing that if they wish reallllllllllllllllllllllllly hard, that the'll get another silent protag for the next game.  My post was aimed primarily at those folks who have yet to move on.  I for one agree with you for what it's worth.  But as I said, there are those out there that still hold on to that false sense of hope that if they complain enough about it, they'll change it lol.

Yuqi wrote...

The warden could come back, its not impossible, just highly unlikely.

No, it's impossible.  As I said in a previous post, it has essentially been confirmed that every DA title will feature a new protagonist.  Meaning that's a big negative on ever playing your  warden again.

Tezzajh wrote...

knowing that the warden and hawke wont return im wondering is there anypoint getting the dlc, it feels a waste of money trying to continue with hawke when it seems bioware just wants you to consider him/her dead. and when they say its about the world not the character that just means we are not going to try and continue the story because A. costs to much B. to much effort and if theres a dragon age 4 im not gonna buy it because dragon age 1 and 2 was about starting rubbish rising to hero, dragon age 3 = new character, same story 

Well, you're just a glass half empty kind of guy arent you? lol 

Modifié par Aradace, 29 septembre 2011 - 12:18 .

[csfteeeer]

Aradace wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

The warden could come back, its not impossible, just highly unlikely.

No, it's impossible.  As I said in a previous post, it has essentially been confirmed that every DA title will feature a new protagonist.  Meaning that's a big negative on ever playing your  warden again.

no it's not impossible.
unlikely however.