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[morgan rose]

I have read many forums about dragon age origins and dragon age 2.So what i got from them is most people prefered dragon age origins to da2.I think da2 is not a bad game ,but it does'nt feel like it's part of dragon age.If not for codexes and cameo's of previous party member it really does'nt feel like it fits in. ( I apologize for any spelling mistake as english is not my first language)

What I feel is that bioware have treated core fan of dragon age origins very unfairly.It's like they're say thank you for your suport and dedication to the game here a slap in the face called dragon age 2 and just because your such loyal fan and we know how many hours you spend on you wardens making decisions ect and knowing the wardens are the pillars of the dragon age story here a slap on the other cheek...your warden's story is finished ..that's right the warden will not face the consequences of decision made in dragon age origin,but not to worry you'll find a codex or see a cameo of well somebody.

It also seems that bioware has lost more dao fans than gained da2 fans( I might be wrong,but that's the opsevatons I made..., there's alot of angry fans) but yet it feels like they're more worried about pleasing the new fan than the old!?

I say give the fans waht they WANT.Let them choose the main character they want.
Hawke's story does'nt feel finished so if you want choose him/her
The same for the warden.The story does'nt feel done and I'd like to see him/her handle concequense of previous decision.There might not be another blight ,but i renember my warden getting involved with politics when ozammar and ferelden needed kings.No doubt they'll run to the warden if they need assistance with something.
Or choose a new character if your sick of Hawke or warden.

And yes this can be done,not eveyone is technically challenged.It might take a bit more effort ,but it is possible.almost as in origins where caracters have diffrent background stories and dialogue changes but maine story still stays the same.
This might be the best way of keeping everyone happy and get more fans.

Does anyone feel that bioware is'not really taking fan's feed back seriosly? And that they''re just patronising the fans.They're still going to do waht they want to even if fans object

[Realmzmaster]

Bioware is going to do what Bioware wants to do. Bioware will take fan suggestions and comments into consideration. Note I said consideration. Bioware is not going to allow the fanbase to dictate what story Bioware should tell. Bioware may or may not incorporate those suggestions. Given the variety of suggestions it would not be possible to incorporate them all.

David Gaider as head writer and creator of the DA universe will set the plotline and tone for DA3. Bioware is going to tell the story that David Gaider and company want to tell. DA3 will have a new protagonist. The focus of DA3 will be the new character. DA3 may or not draw conclusions to the warden or Hawke stories.

Bioware takes fan feedback seriously, but there is a difference between listening to that feedback and blindly doing what the fanbase wants.

[dsl08002]

morgan rose wrote...

I have read many forums about dragon age origins and dragon age 2.So what i got from them is most people prefered dragon age origins to da2.I think da2 is not a bad game ,but it does'nt feel like it's part of dragon age.If not for codexes and cameo's of previous party member it really does'nt feel like it fits in. ( I apologize for any spelling mistake as english is not my first language)

What I feel is that bioware have treated core fan of dragon age origins very unfairly.It's like they're say thank you for your suport and dedication to the game here a slap in the face called dragon age 2 and just because your such loyal fan and we know how many hours you spend on you wardens making decisions ect and knowing the wardens are the pillars of the dragon age story here a slap on the other cheek...your warden's story is finished ..that's right the warden will not face the consequences of decision made in dragon age origin,but not to worry you'll find a codex or see a cameo of well somebody.

It also seems that bioware has lost more dao fans than gained da2 fans( I might be wrong,but that's the opsevatons I made..., there's alot of angry fans) but yet it feels like they're more worried about pleasing the new fan than the old!?

I say give the fans waht they WANT.Let them choose the main character they want.
Hawke's story does'nt feel finished so if you want choose him/her
The same for the warden.The story does'nt feel done and I'd like to see him/her handle concequense of previous decision.There might not be another blight ,but i renember my warden getting involved with politics when ozammar and ferelden needed kings.No doubt they'll run to the warden if they need assistance with something.
Or choose a new character if your sick of Hawke or warden.

And yes this can be done,not eveyone is technically challenged.It might take a bit more effort ,but it is possible.almost as in origins where caracters have diffrent background stories and dialogue changes but maine story still stays the same.
This might be the best way of keeping everyone happy and get more fans.

i absoloutley agree with you 100 % on this point,

[Jerrybnsn]

It would be a shame if ever other character from Origins carries on their stories but your Warden is finished. But, Bioware thinks that the Dragon Age series would be better served as a Final Fantasy series with different protagonists. I'll wait until I hear more in the future about the Warden and decide whether the series is dead to me or not. Too bad if it is, the premises of DA had so much potential that would have eclipsed the Mass Effect series.

[AnImpossibleGirl]

All our Wardens have their own stories and unless we went along with Morrigan there is NO closure just "gone". Funny enough, I do not care that Hawke is gone...at all. But all the investments put into The Warden makes me want answers.Tell me The Warden died, hell something, just answers or at least a decent closing story...all those awful decisions need to come to a head at some point. No? Seriously, I would rather have had Cassandra say "Gone...eaten by a Griffon just like The Warden."

Unless of course our patience will be rewarded...with more Warden.

[DeathScepter]

The Warden rocks. And I do love the Grey Wardens. As for Hawke, I haven't formed an opinion about him.

[AnImpossibleGirl]

I have neither positive or negative opinion of Hawke, just prefer The Warden. The entire order of Wardens is compelling, as is the history of them. Hawke, blehh. Not that I am an Origins troll, not at all. I enjoyed DA2, just not when compared to Origins. It lacked nearly everything that made Origins epic.

It would be a wise move to include Wardens, if not OUR Warden in DA3 (Prefer to have MY Warden of course though). I enjoyed Legacy because it included Wardens...I do think other's agree. It gives you a connection to Origins in a way, which seemed to be a problem with DA2--the lack of connections. 

[Realmzmaster]

I am quite content with the way my several warden story ended. One warden did the US. One warden became prince-consort, One warden sided with the Architect, another killed him. One warden ran off with Morrigan in Witch Hunt. My other wardens disappeared into the mist of time and in the end will take the long walk to fulfill the calling.

I am far more interested in my Hawkes. I want the DLC, or expansion to tell me what happen to him/her. I prefer a new protagonist for DA3 with a different take in a different region of Thedas.

My wardens are all level 35 and my Hawkes are above level 26. What is Bioware going to throw at them (gods, platinum dragons and demons from the Abyss)?

What about gamers starting the series with DA3, do they start it with a level 25 starting character?

I have not seen a main game where the starting character is at level 25 and above which is where it would have to be if gamers are allowed to import their wardens or Hawkes.

Awakenings did it, but that was an expansion not the main game.

[morgan rose]

[quote]dsl08002 wrote...

[quote]morgan rose wrote...

I have read many forums about dragon age origins and dragon age 2.So what i got from them is most people prefered dragon age origins to da2.I think da2 is not a bad game ,but it does'nt feel like it's part of dragon age.If not for codexes and cameo's of previous party member it really does'nt feel like it fits in. ( I apologize for any spelling mistake as english is not my first language)

What I feel is that bioware have treated core fan of dragon age origins very unfairly.It's like they're say thank you for your suport and dedication to the game here a slap in the face called dragon age 2 and just because your such loyal fan and we know how many hours you spend on you wardens making decisions ect and knowing the wardens are the pillars of the dragon age story here a slap on the other cheek...your warden's story is finished ..that's right the warden will not face the consequences of decision made in dragon age origin,but not to worry you'll find a codex or see a cameo of well somebody.

It also seems that bioware has lost more dao fans than gained da2 fans( I might be wrong,but that's the opsevatons I made..., there's alot of angry fans) but yet it feels like they're more worried about pleasing the new fan than the old!?

I say give the fans waht they WANT.Let them choose the main character they want.
Hawke's story does'nt feel finished so if you want choose him/her
The same for the warden.The story does'nt feel done and I'd like to see him/her handle concequense of previous decision.There might not be another blight ,but i renember my warden getting involved with politics when ozammar and ferelden needed kings.No doubt they'll run to the warden if they need assistance with something.
Or choose a new character if your sick of Hawke or warden.

And yes this can be done,not eveyone is technically challenged.It might take a bit more effort ,but it is possible.almost as in origins where caracters have diffrent background stories and dialogue changes but maine story still stays the same.
This might be the best way of keeping everyone happy and get more fans.

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i absoloutley agree with you 100 % on this point,


Thank you]

[morgan rose]

Realmzmaster wrote...

Bioware is going to do what Bioware wants to do. Bioware will take fan suggestions and comments into consideration. Note I said consideration. Bioware is not going to allow the fanbase to dictate what story Bioware should tell. Bioware may or may not incorporate those suggestions. Given the variety of suggestions it would not be possible to incorporate them all.

David Gaider as head writer and creator of the DA universe will set the plotline and tone for DA3. Bioware is going to tell the story that David Gaider and company want to tell. DA3 will have a new protagonist. The focus of DA3 will be the new character. DA3 may or not draw conclusions to the warden or Hawke stories.

Bioware takes fan feedback seriously, but there is a difference between listening to that feedback and blindly doing what the fanbase wants.

Oh so at the end of the day our opions mean nothing ,but our money does

[Realmzmaster]

morgan rose wrote...

Realmzmaster wrote...

Bioware is going to do what Bioware wants to do. Bioware will take fan suggestions and comments into consideration. Note I said consideration. Bioware is not going to allow the fanbase to dictate what story Bioware should tell. Bioware may or may not incorporate those suggestions. Given the variety of suggestions it would not be possible to incorporate them all.

David Gaider as head writer and creator of the DA universe will set the plotline and tone for DA3. Bioware is going to tell the story that David Gaider and company want to tell. DA3 will have a new protagonist. The focus of DA3 will be the new character. DA3 may or not draw conclusions to the warden or Hawke stories.

Bioware takes fan feedback seriously, but there is a difference between listening to that feedback and blindly doing what the fanbase wants.

Oh so at the end of the day our opions mean nothing ,but our money does

At the end of the day your opinion is just that your opinion which may or may not coincide with my opinion. What I like in a game could be widely different from what others want. The task of any designer is to find the right balance. Designing a game is above all a creative process. Who am I to tell David Gaider and his team what story to write. He has his vision of where he wants the story to go in the series. If that were the case I could have told J.K. Rowlings how I wanted Harry Potter to end. The writer may listen to my suggestion and not incorporate it. The feedback is heard. It is simply not used. 

 Everyone in the fanbase has an opinion you cannot incorporate all those opinions into a game. If you try to please everyone you end up pleasing no one which is some of the criticism leveled at DA2. The same reason why people on the forum DAO criticized DAO for being a departure from BG2.

I want to see carrying capacity in the game based on strength. The need to eat and drink. I do not want instant health and mana regeneration after a fight. I think an unlimited supply of arrows is ludicrous. I want more realism in my fantasy (and I am not alone on this forum in that regard). Others see that as too much micromanagement. So who does the designer listen to. My money spends as well as anyone else yet none of the big companies produce games with the features I want. So i look for companies that do, like  Basilisk Games and Spiderweb). I like Bioware because I like the stories that they tell. I put up with the other stuff I do not like because of that.

The consumer at the end can vote with their wallets and choose to buy or not buy based on the research he or she chooses to do. Just like buying any other product.

[Maria Caliban]

morgan rose wrote...

Oh so at the end of the day our opions mean nothing ,but our money does

I disagree.

If a game sells 2.5 million units, a single unit sold is meaningless. Money only matters in quantitative terms and no one consumer is meaningful.

Opinions are qualitative. Because developers interact with posters as individuals, they're much more likely to be influenced by something someone says.

Admittedly, one person's opinion will likely have a miniscule impact, even if the developers are inclined to listen to them and consider their posts well-done, but I'd call it the difference between 0.001 'meaning' for well-expressed opinions and 0.0000004 'meaning' for purchased copies.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 04 mars 2012 - 10:58 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Well said, Realmz.

Bioware looked at a lot of the criticism of DAO and, instead of improving features that people complained about (can't use isometric camera in console combat, combat is tactical but sluggish, equipment management can be a pain and my companions all look the same since they all have the same uber armor on, choices don't seem to carry over correctly into Awakening or other DLC), they instead just tossed out most of the features that people had problems with.

Inventory management a little too complex? Scrap it, only the PC can equip items.

Combat balance between speed and tactics too far on the slow end? Scrap all tactics, go for super flashy combat.

Can't implement an isometric camera for the console well? Scrap it altogether then. After all, we already threw out tactical combat.

Can't get those pesky choices and import flags to show correctly in the DLC or expansion? Then let's just make 90% of those choices totally irrelevant aside from a few random bits of dialogue or side quests that consist of "show up and kill everyone" story telling. And even THEN... there are import flag errors.

In DA2, the complaints are little more difficult to hand wave, in my opinion. Reused environments is not a problem that can be hand waved or eliminated to side-step a conclusion. Lack of choice that matters to how the story plays out cannot be "streamlined." People complaining about the inventory system being relatively useless and STILL too hard to manage, with the 2 Star rings giving same stats as the 5 Star ones, can't be trimmed down anymore.

The devs are going to have to go for depth and substance in their solutions to DA3, not hedge back on complexity like they did going from DAO to DA2.

[dsl08002]

But they shouldn´t use Da2 as a yardstick for the development of DA3, they should put more efforts on focusing on what made dao great rather than DA2.

tyen it comes to the imports, in DA2 it lacked the certain "flare" because it wasn´t affecting the story line. but another reason is that it isn´t the same thing with hawke because he/she is a complete stranger instead of a protaganist like the warden facing the consiquenses.

and as before the warden storycame to an abrupt end with no real explination.

soit could be a good compromise to let you choose who you will play as in DA3, warden ,hawke or new player

[LZA_FUNK]

 I think before DA2 came out, alot of people were thinking that the Dragon Age series was going to be like the Mass effect series? A lot of people assumed that the Warden's story was going to be told over multiple installments like Shepard. Bioware had no attention of making the Warden's tale a multiple part series, maybe they weren't clear enough to alot people that Dragon Age wasn't going down that path. To me this is where alot of the negative reactions to Dragon Age 2 is coming from. From all the thousands of negative rants on this forum about this game, it wasn't a terrible game but it could have been much more polished before its release.

Just because both games are made by the same company doesn't mean their going to be same!!!!

I will really don't want to see the Warden return giving the new twist on the Art direction that Dragon Age is going, just
give us Hawke, poor Hawke:blush:

[JeeWeeJ]

LZA_FUNK wrote...

 I think before DA2 came out, alot of people were thinking that the Dragon Age series was going to be like the Mass effect series? A lot of people assumed that the Warden's story was going to be told over multiple installments like Shepard. Bioware had no attention of making the Warden's tale a multiple part series, maybe they weren't clear enough to alot people that Dragon Age wasn't going down that path. To me this is where alot of the negative reactions to Dragon Age 2 is coming from. From all the thousands of negative rants on this forum about this game, it wasn't a terrible game but it could have been much more polished before its release.

Well, not just Mass Effect, but Baldur's Gate (on which Dragon Age: Origins was pretty much based) did the same thing. Add to that the VERY open endings provided by the vanilla game and the Witchhunt DLC's (provided your warden didn't die) made it very easy for people to do 1+1=2! And saying that the story of the warden was a "closed book" is rubbish imho, as he/she did much, much more then just stopping a blight. But thats just my opinion.

Anyway, it's very easy for people to assume things, especially if it's about something they love, and buy something just based on that assuption. Even though that assumption could very well be wrong. And yes, Bioware could have been more clear on this, but the fault is not entirely on their side in this case.

Personally, I would love to play my warden again, as I really loved the guy, but I'm ok with a new protagonist...

[Cutlasskiwi]

morgan rose wrote...

Does anyone feel that bioware is'not really taking fan's feed back seriosly? And that they''re just patronising the fans.They're still going to do waht they want to even if fans object

No and no. And I'm curious, how are they patronizing the fans?

At this moment I'm more curious about Hawke and I would love to see his/her journey continue in DLC or a expansion pack but not in DA3. But I'm a little biased when it comes to this. What little interest I had in the Warden died when Awakening was released and it messed up my Wardens personality. I like the idea of playing a new protagonist in every game. It keeps the focus on the world instead of one super powerful person who can cure all evil time and time again.

[valentine3]

Maria Caliban wrote...

morgan rose wrote...

Oh so at the end of the day our opions mean nothing ,but our money does

I disagree.

If a game sells 2.5 million units, a single unit sold is meaningless. Money only matters in quantitative terms and no one consumer is meaningful.

Opinions are qualitative. Because developers interact with posters as individuals, they're much more likely to be influenced by something someone says.

Admittedly, one person's opinion will likely have a miniscule impact, even if the developers are inclined to listen to them and consider their posts well-done, but I'd call it the difference between 0.001 'meaning' for well-expressed opinions and 0.0000004 'meaning' for purchased copies.

One unit ,maybe not,but as most people are dao fans I do think their opion matters

[valentine3]

[quote]morgan rose wrote...

[quote]dsl08002 wrote...

[quote]morgan rose wrote...

I have read many forums about dragon age origins and dragon age 2.So what i got from them is most people prefered dragon age origins to da2.I think da2 is not a bad game ,but it does'nt feel like it's part of dragon age.If not for codexes and cameo's of previous party member it really does'nt feel like it fits in. ( I apologize for any spelling mistake as english is not my first language)

What I feel is that bioware have treated core fan of dragon age origins very unfairly.It's like they're say thank you for your suport and dedication to the game here a slap in the face called dragon age 2 and just because your such loyal fan and we know how many hours you spend on you wardens making decisions ect and knowing the wardens are the pillars of the dragon age story here a slap on the other cheek...your warden's story is finished ..that's right the warden will not face the consequences of decision made in dragon age origin,but not to worry you'll find a codex or see a cameo of well somebody.

It also seems that bioware has lost more dao fans than gained da2 fans( I might be wrong,but that's the opsevatons I made..., there's alot of angry fans) but yet it feels like they're more worried about pleasing the new fan than the old!?

I say give the fans waht they WANT.Let them choose the main character they want.
Hawke's story does'nt feel finished so if you want choose him/her
The same for the warden.The story does'nt feel done and I'd like to see him/her handle concequense of previous decision.There might not be another blight ,but i renember my warden getting involved with politics when ozammar and ferelden needed kings.No doubt they'll run to the warden if they need assistance with something.
Or choose a new character if your sick of Hawke or warden.

And yes this can be done,not eveyone is technically challenged.It might take a bit more effort ,but it is possible.almost as in origins where caracters have diffrent background stories and dialogue changes but maine story still stays the same.
This might be the best way of keeping everyone happy and get more fans.

[/quote]

i absoloutley agree with you 100 % on this point,


Thank you]
[/quote]

excellent piont.I agree with you too

[valentine3]

valentine3 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

morgan rose wrote...

Oh so at the end of the day our opions mean nothing ,but our money does

I disagree.

If a game sells 2.5 million units, a single unit sold is meaningless. Money only matters in quantitative terms and no one consumer is meaningful.

Opinions are qualitative. Because developers interact with posters as individuals, they're much more likely to be influenced by something someone says.

Admittedly, one person's opinion will likely have a miniscule impact, even if the developers are inclined to listen to them and consider their posts well-done, but I'd call it the difference between 0.001 'meaning' for well-expressed opinions and 0.0000004 'meaning' for purchased copies.

Wait please dont get me wrong.I'm not saying only dao fans should be listen to.
There are alot of da2 fans
Alot of people want a new protagonist.
And alot of fans lost intrest in da
But the majority of people are origin fans
It's just a fact if you like it or not.
So why not try and please the origins fans too.

[valentine3]

Realmzmaster wrote...

morgan rose wrote...

Realmzmaster wrote...

Bioware is going to do what Bioware wants to do. Bioware will take fan suggestions and comments into consideration. Note I said consideration. Bioware is not going to allow the fanbase to dictate what story Bioware should tell. Bioware may or may not incorporate those suggestions. Given the variety of suggestions it would not be possible to incorporate them all.

David Gaider as head writer and creator of the DA universe will set the plotline and tone for DA3. Bioware is going to tell the story that David Gaider and company want to tell. DA3 will have a new protagonist. The focus of DA3 will be the new character. DA3 may or not draw conclusions to the warden or Hawke stories.

Bioware takes fan feedback seriously, but there is a difference between listening to that feedback and blindly doing what the fanbase wants.

Oh so at the end of the day our opions mean nothing ,but our money does

At the end of the day your opinion is just that your opinion which may or may not coincide with my opinion. What I like in a game could be widely different from what others want. The task of any designer is to find the right balance. Designing a game is above all a creative process. Who am I to tell David Gaider and his team what story to write. He has his vision of where he wants the story to go in the series. If that were the case I could have told J.K. Rowlings how I wanted Harry Potter to end. The writer may listen to my suggestion and not incorporate it. The feedback is heard. It is simply not used. 

 Everyone in the fanbase has an opinion you cannot incorporate all those opinions into a game. If you try to please everyone you end up pleasing no one which is some of the criticism leveled at DA2. The same reason why people on the forum DAO criticized DAO for being a departure from BG2.

I want to see carrying capacity in the game based on strength. The need to eat and drink. I do not want instant health and mana regeneration after a fight. I think an unlimited supply of arrows is ludicrous. I want more realism in my fantasy (and I am not alone on this forum in that regard). Others see that as too much micromanagement. So who does the designer listen to. My money spends as well as anyone else yet none of the big companies produce games with the features I want. So i look for companies that do, like  Basilisk Games and Spiderweb). I like Bioware because I like the stories that they tell. I put up with the other stuff I do not like because of that.

The consumer at the end can vote with their wallets and choose to buy or not buy based on the research he or she chooses to do. Just like buying any other product.

How did they try and please dao fans in da2??

[Realmzmaster]

valentine3 wrote...


How did they try and please dao fans in da2??

I do remember Bioware came out with Awakenings an expansion to Origins and the dlc to please DAO fans. I also remember Awakenings selling nowhere near trhe 4.5 million copies that DAO sold. The warden's story was being continued in the expansion, but a vast majority of the DAO fans did not buy it.

 Nowhere did Bioware state that DA2 would be a continuation of DAO and include the warden. That is what DAO fans wrongly assumed.  Bioware was very upfront in stating that DA2 would have a new protagonist. In fact Bioware was very upfront in stating that Thedas (the world)  and not one protagonist was the star of the series. I am quite content with the end of my warden's stories. I want to see Hawke's story wrapped up in either dlc or an expansion. I want a new protagonist for DA3 set in a different part of Thedas.

Also do you expand a market by cartering only to DAO fans? That may sustain the one you have it does not broaden it for the future. Any company if it wishes to stay around has to look for its future market and identify it. As a BG fan I can assure you (IMHO) that Bioware did not please us with DAO. BG fans accepted it because we were not going to get what we wanted.

Modifié par Realmzmaster, 06 mars 2012 - 06:56 .

[valentine3]

BG and dragon age is not the same story.Bg has nothing to do with the thedas world.
J.k Rowlings wrote a novel series not a r.p.j game that had you making your own choices.
The dragon age story belongs to bioware/ea..I dont know if bioware/ea works the same as other companies,but in general a gaming company has their writters but the powers that be has to approve of the story before anything els is done.If they dont like it they can change and tell their writter what they want or what should be changed.
Awakening was a dlc not an actual game but yes it sold less.But then da2 did'nt even reach anywhere near that amount.And need I say more about the dlc. I wrote before that I dont mean they should only listen to dao fans,but business wise it's not just fans complaining,there's chritics,sales and awards .

That said I was only agreeing with morgan rose,who actaully was trying to find a sollution for everyone.And look I dont want to fight with you or upset you,and it's seems that I might just be doing that, so I apologise if I have.But opion is not going to change as I'm sure yours wont either

[Aly666]

Ofcoarse its better to play new characters because the map is huge and there's diff problems everywhere. It would be great how ever if we do see those characters as npc and not as weak npc ..
I would like to no though it's really been bothering me Dage 2 has to have some type of better ending. It may be a small patch or an expansion but he couldn't just go missing there has to be a small clue of where he's going. Regardless i trust you guys and will see what you come with i feel like there's something up your sleeve.

[Stoomkal]

Realmzmaster wrote...

Bioware is going to do what Bioware wants to do. Bioware will take fan suggestions and comments into consideration. Note I said consideration. Bioware is not going to allow the fanbase to dictate what story Bioware should tell. Bioware may or may not incorporate those suggestions. Given the variety of suggestions it would not be possible to incorporate them all.

David Gaider as head writer and creator of the DA universe will set the plotline and tone for DA3. Bioware is going to tell the story that David Gaider and company want to tell. DA3 will have a new protagonist. The focus of DA3 will be the new character. DA3 may or not draw conclusions to the warden or Hawke stories.

Bioware takes fan feedback seriously, but there is a difference between listening to that feedback and blindly doing what the fanbase wants.

Ummmm...

Writers do not exist in a bubble - althought some think they do.

If you work in the publishing industry, you will never tire of asking a writer this: "What does the audience want?"

They will look at you blankly... "I am writing this for me" they will say.

"Great, sweetie... so why publish?" I will ask.

Publishing is putting out a product that makes people want to read it. Even "Moby Dick" or LotR were written with an *audience* in mind.

What I hear waaay too much is this: "I am writing for myself"

--- That is poetry.

If you are writing, but you are *only* focused on telling the story you want... perhaps keep it to yourself.

Writing is alwasy written *for someone*... it is simply lazy pretentious writers who use the excuse that their unpopular writing was "for themselves" rather than "failed the expectations" of its own audience.

Perhaps DA2 was a *massive* success to David Giader... perhaps that explains his books.

It doesn't matter. His audience would disagree.

And if he is only "writing for himself" then it should be personal - not a product.