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[AresKeith]

KENNY4753 wrote...

I would love to have my Dalish Warden return but I already know that they said new protagonist for DA3. I at least want to know wtf happened to him and where he disappeared to.

twitter death lol

[KENNY4753]

AresKeith wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

I would love to have my Dalish Warden return but I already know that they said new protagonist for DA3. I at least want to know wtf happened to him and where he disappeared to.

twitter death lol

why did I laugh so hard at this....maybe because I could believe they would do it.

[batlin]

Ugh. Remember how in Baldur's Gate 2 you could bring your previous character over? And how it did so much to keep you invested in the main character and the events that transpired?

Is focusing on different characters in every game a valid style? Yes, of course, but it seems much less like an artistic choice and more like laziness. Awakenings proved you can still make a new game with a new main character and still transfer your old character if you wanted to. Is it because it would be too much work to do that again? Too many variables? Sure there would be, but that kinda comes with the RPG genre. Unless you want to come out and admit that Dragon Age will forever be a linear, railroaded story, not wanting to deal with all the variables is not a valid excuse for always changing the main character.

Want Dragon Age to be about the setting? That's great. You can focus on the setting WHILE keeping the main character the same, ya know. Writers are pretty good about narrative flexibility, usually. So what's the problem?

Modifié par batlin, 03 septembre 2012 - 05:38 .

[Merlex]

batlin wrote...

Ugh. Remember how in Baldur's Gate 2 you could bring your previous character over? And how it did so much to keep you invested in the main character and the events that transpired?

Is focusing on different characters in every game a valid style? Yes, of course, but it seems much less like an artistic choice and more like laziness. Awakenings proved you can still make a new game with a new main character and still transfer your old character if you wanted to. Is it because it would be too much work to do that again? Too many variables? Sure there would be, but that kinda comes with the RPG genre. Unless you want to come out and admit that Dragon Age will forever be a linear, railroaded story, not wanting to deal with all the variables is not a valid excuse for always changing the main character.

Want Dragon Age to be about the setting? That's great. You can focus on the setting WHILE keeping the main character the same, ya know. Writers are pretty good about narrative flexibility, usually. So what's the problem?

They want to keep characters at or below 30th level. If they have 100th level characters running around, they'd have to expand the talents, upgrades. They'd have to fix the combat. Balder's Gate is based on D&D, which has a lot more class content.

Modifié par Merlex, 03 septembre 2012 - 08:40 .

[SafetyShattered]

AresKeith wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

I would love to have my Dalish Warden return but I already know that they said new protagonist for DA3. I at least want to know wtf happened to him and where he disappeared to.

twitter death lol

Don't even joke about that man....Bioware might think your serious and actually do it! Then I'd cry. And you'd have to live with the knowledge that you caused that. Not a pretty picture is it?

[Nefla]

Making a different MC in each installment means that there will be far less rage if that installment is bad. If the MC is introduced in an awesome game that people almost universally love (like Mass Effect or DA:O) and then is brought into a crappy sequel with a poorly written story and that character that you came to know and love is fundamentally changed into something the player no longer recognizes as their own and can no longer shape who they are (like ME3) then there will be much more outrage than if a new installment with all new characters just sucks on its own.

[batlin]

Merlex wrote...

They want to keep characters at or below 30th level. If they have 100th level characters running around, they'd have to expand the talents, upgrades. They'd have to fix the combat. Balder's Gate is based on D&D, which has a lot more class content.

You mean to tell me that making a better game and giving players more options would take work?? Oh the horror!

And fyi, D&D also doesn't have rules for going past level 20. Every level after 20 just gets you a standardized boost.

[dsl08002]

just be able to continue the story of the warden once again would be great.

just give the option to play as either warden, hawke or new protaganist in DA3 is a very good compromise

[Heimdall]

Nefla wrote...

Making a different MC in each installment means that there will be far less rage if that installment is bad. If the MC is introduced in an awesome game that people almost universally love (like Mass Effect or DA:O) and then is brought into a crappy sequel with a poorly written story and that character that you came to know and love is fundamentally changed into something the player no longer recognizes as their own and can no longer shape who they are (like ME3) then there will be much more outrage than if a new installment with all new characters just sucks on its own.

Yeah, so what you're saying is that keeping new protagonists makes the backlash lesser when people complain about how they transfer into a sequel.  I'll add that, should the fans dislike a game and it's role playing options, it allows them to discontinue that protagonist while, should they like the game, they can continue using that protagonist for awhile.  Hence why the Warden has Awakening and Hawke's expansion was canceled.

[JamesStark]

 Nope. It'll be someone completely new.

[agonis]

My warden died because he killed the archdemon. I sure hope he doesn´t return from the dead. DA3 would be a zombie apocalypse for me...

[Myrmedus]

I'd love it if it was.

I understand people have reservations because they wouldn't want something like a voice put to their Warden, for example, as that voice was always in their head. I agree with that to an extent but I'd rather have the Warden back with a voice than not at all.

However, I'd like it best of all if it were like Awakening in that you can play your Warden or a new character. The reason is because it all depends on the individual as to whether it works to have the Warden back or not. For me, in my DA story, it doesn't make sense for the Warden NOT to be back. My Warden romanced Morrigan, had a son with her and went with her into the Eluvian. Now, with Morrigan back, it makes no sense to me that my Warden (and their son) isn't there too.

I also disagree with people saying that the Wardens were just an introduction etc. to the world of Dragon Age - completely wrong. The Wardens and the Darkspawn are basically one and the same story, and from that everything else flows pretty much: the Templar/Mage War, the Dragons, the Darkspawn and the Wardens are all connected and part of the same thing. One of the main reasons for Mage oppression is the Chant of Light's explanation as to the source of the Darkspawn (and with DA2 Legacy DLC it seems to have at least some truth to it). The Dragons/Old Gods are clearly connected to the Darkspawn and the Taint, and reading up on some of the in-game literature points to them egging on the Tevinter Magisters to storm the Golden City. Also, the Darkspawn (at least in their original design) look quite draconic. I can't think of anyone more pivotal to this than my Warden who went far beyond just fighting the Blight.

So I'd love it if it were like Awakening: import option OR new character, and I think that would make the most people happy.

Modifié par Myrmedus, 10 juin 2013 - 10:28 .

[Angrywolves]

It's the Inquisitor'.

[ames4u]

The short answer? No.

The long answer: While I want to see my multiple Warden's come in and kick everyone's ass into obedience-I get the feeling Bioware will screw my character's over like they did in both DA2 and ME3.

Isabella: Oh Hai thar Zevran! Wanna go f*ck behind those thar bushes?
Zevran: Oh noez Ho-a-bella, I iz lamentin' the loss of mai Dalish Warden!!
Me: Who actually completed the dark ritual, pulled The Keep back into order, saving all the people possible and for all intents and purposes is still alive and kicking. Thanks Bioware. Thanks a bunch. (￣ _ ￣lll)

I still can't bring myself to import the other Warden saves for fear of even more bugs or continuity errors. (I imported 2) I also can't help but notice how all the other major factions are too busy ripping each other apart to stand and face the actual god damn enemy. Sounds distinctly familiar though I can't quite put my finger on it...*cough* ME3. *cough*

So, I have a question: While everyone is busy jacking each other for loose change, wtf are the Wardens doing during Inquisition? Having tea and nug pies with Flemeth the magical plot contrived GILF of Ferelden?

[TravisB]

no..it will be hawke before they bring back the warden.origins is becoming something of a cult game and im not sure why.besides morrigan,there was nothing in origins that wasnt done better in 2.