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Do you think the Warden will be the main character for Dragon age 3?


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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.

And that's all I can say about that.


Thank you for the rather straight forward post. This is probably my favorite post of yours on these boards.

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Oh my god, thank you so much, Mike. It's been one of my biggest worries that we'd get Hawke or the Warden for DA3. I'd prefer someone new every time.

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Naw my wardens story is done. And I don't much care for Hawke. I hope DA3 will have a new character with a freash story to tell (with the option for Dwarf, Elve or Human playable races). Before that though I sure hope Bioware wrap up DA2 nice and neatly >.>

EDIT: welp should have read more of the thread before I posted, Mike has now told us how it's going down :P

Modifié par Vincentdante, 05 août 2011 - 04:45 .


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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.

And that's all I can say about that.


I'm really Ok with the Warden or Hawke not being a core protagonist in the future. I also would understand if cameos were not possible with the Warden, given the variety of Wardens you could have in DAO. What I'm not OK with is unresolved storylines. I would have preferred it much more if Bioware had just let both the Warden and Hawke finish out whatever path they had chose without pitching them into a black hole of disappearance. I don't expect I will purchase another product from Bioware if we don't see a reappearance of both Hawke and the Warden in some way.BTW, the quote references only that Hawke and the Warden won't be core protagonists, it leaves the door open for them to appear in another role.

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Teddie Sage

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No more Hawke? *puppy eyes*

~ sighs ~ I'll miss you, my dear Garrett...

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andar91 wrote...

Oh my god, thank you so much, Mike. It's been one of my biggest worries that we'd get Hawke or the Warden for DA3. I'd prefer someone new every time.


i do as well.  

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I don't like it. Having a new protagonist every game just feels strange...it feels like everything we did the last game didn't really matter besides unchangeable final events and small cameo appearances. I would love to have my Wardens back but honestly like many said, it would not be possible with the amount different characters you could have created. Sure you could always import the decisions and just remake your Warden in the new game but voice actors for all different races would prove...difficult.

But anyways back to different people each game: Like I said I don't like it. It feels like the story is bouncing around each game. Blight, Mages and Templars, whats next? The Qunari and the great Cookie Crisis? The games might have an over-arching storyline that we won't get until either DA3 or even a DA4 comes out but just playing as a new person each time....makes me feel disconnected with the world of Dragon Age.

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Thank you Mike! :kissing:
I'm very happy about playing someone new each time and getting different perspectives. However, I'm very attached to my Warden/Hawke and would like to find out what happens to them after DA2. ^_^

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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.

And that's all I can say about that.


I don't tend to read BSN much, and I post even less (obviously).  But I wanted to at least bring up why I have issues with this, because I think it's one of the major weaknesses of the DA franchise.

I wouldn't mind this announcement if the ends of DAO and DA2 had actually felt
FINISHED, as opposed to feeling very much like "stay tuned for part 2/the next adventures of/the sequel of Warden/Hawke."


That's my tremendous problem with this - it's what irritated me when I started DA2, and now what will be even more aggravated by yet a new character in DA3. Both games leave you
feeling like there's more story to be told with that character, not just "with the world of Thedas."

Wanting to tell the story of an age/world is perfectly fine - just make sure that each "mini-story" you tell comes to an actual, satisfying conclusion before you start the next one if you don't intend to ever let players continue the stories of those characters.

Now, if the plan is "put out X number of games, each with a new character, then when Y game comes out, we go back to the Warden, and then Z game will go back to Hawke, etc." which could be construed from this post, that would work as well - but it would be nice to know this is the plan.

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Zackaroth22 wrote...

...whats next? The Qunari and the great Cookie Crisis?  


Please Bioware, make this happen, pretty please? :wizard:

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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.

And that's all I can say about that.

As long as you give us more control over the character then we have with Hawke, I don't care whether he's the same character I played before.

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New character? Maker, yes! I love this idea. :3

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Ooooooooooooooooh ! :wub:

No Hawk... no Hawk... no Hawk... NO HAWK FOR DA3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:

#139
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Mike, seriously, I think you should stick to Hawke. He still has a lot of potential as a main character. He could become as important as the Warden or Shepard, in other words. We just need to give him another chance. Unless you're already planning to end his story with the DLC and the expansion, then that's fine. But I still want to play my Hawkes.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 05 août 2011 - 07:29 .


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What have I done wrong ? I have the right to be happy...

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i think we'll probably see hawk and the warden but more then likely we will see a new character to play as and a whole lot of cameos. im hoping for the option to bring back some former party members

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Sylvianus wrote...

What have I done wrong ? I have the right to be happy...


Some people DID love Hawke. :(

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Teddie Sage wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

What have I done wrong ? I have the right to be happy...


Some people DID love Hawke. :(

And I DID love the warden. :unsure:

To know that his story after the Witch Hunt will never be completed, saddens me too. I think a new character is a good compromise to start on good bases.. :happy:

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No Hawke!
I'd do the happy dance, except I don't dance.
Instead, I will drink to this news, and I'll even open up some of the good stuff.

Now, here is to hoping we will get an option to kill Hawke, preferably in most gruesome manner!

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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.

And that's all I can say about that.

First of all thanks for the straight forward answer! It's much appreciated.

While I don't "hate" Hawke I was disappointed enough with DA2 that I don't want Hawke to continue much beyond it (beyond cameos and his/her effect on Thedas... Well Anders' effect on Thedas... anyways...). That said, and I'm going to hate myself for this, I still want to know what happens in Act 4 since I want to know what happens to Merrill and Isabella. Sad that I'd rather know more about my companions than my own PC. So yes that means I'd probably buy an expansion/DLC if I know it'll be as decent as Legacy was.

However I still want to know what happened to Morrigan and the baby. So even if the Warden doesn't come back it would be nice to actually get some resolution to things the player has some control over. As a player we had no control over the Mage/Templar battle, one of the biggest faults in DA2. No matter what the war starts and all DA2 is is a prelude to that. Hawke isn't important (not as much as Anders is anyways), but the Warden was important for at least stopping the blight and possibly unleashing an old god as a baby (not to mention the other variables from DA:O and DA:A).

So here's hoping the new protagonist is more effective and actually comes to some resolutions (at least as much as the Warden got).

Modifié par TheAwesomologist, 05 août 2011 - 07:47 .


#146
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doh!

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Awww man! I'll miss Hawke. =(

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Fidget6 wrote...

Awww man! I'll miss Hawke. =(


Same here, man... Same here...

And screw the haters. <_<

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I just hope they wrap up Hawke's story in a DLC/expansion, and not have all the DA2 DLC be pre-game ending and leave it at SPOILER "hawke disappeared forever lulz"

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I'll definitely miss manHawke's amaaaazing voice <3