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Do you think the Warden will be the main character for Dragon age 3?


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#201
Iwasdrunkbro

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Anarya wrote...

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That's assuming that they'll butcher the appearances of these characters with another aesthetic redesign. 

Honestly, I can easily see Morrigan's God Baby being the driving force that binds all these plot arcs I mentioned into a climatic conclusion. 


I'll do you the favor of not linking to the Morrigan face morph people found within DA2's files. Just pray that it was a placeholder or a rightfully scrapped work in progress because its truly terrible.


As much as I'd like to see something come of the OGB, unless BioWare devotes Witcher 2 level resources into that aspect of diverging choices/consequences with the Dark Ritual and the Eluvian, I'd rather they not bother with anything Morrigan related. The DR was supposedly the biggest choice of Origins and unless you killed your Warden off, there is zero consequence to that choice.


I never saw that morph but hey, join the club (of Alistair/Zev fans). Leli turned out pretty well, but the other two, eugh. SUFFER AS WE SUFFER!


I want morrigan backImage IPB

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Anarya wrote...
I'll never understand all the Hawke hate.

The face of unwanted change. That's what I'd guess, anyway.

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Xewaka wrote...

Anarya wrote...
I'll never understand all the Hawke hate.

The face of unwanted change. That's what I'd guess, anyway.


I mean I get it, I guess. But I'll never get it.

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I am happy that we won't be playing Hawke in DA3. Problem is, I personally didn't like Hawke, Kirkwall or the story of DA2, but I did love Varric and Aveline. Losing Hawke, of course will mean a brand new set of companions. I will miss them, but really miss Varric and Bianca:(

Modifié par Kileyan, 05 août 2011 - 11:09 .


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Kileyan wrote...

I am happy that we won't be playing Hawke in DA3. Problem is, I personally didn't like Hawke, Kirkwall or the story of DA2, but I did love Varric and Aveline. Losing Hawke, of course will mean a brand new set of companions. I will miss them, but really miss Varric and Bianca:(






Not necessarily; I would not be surprised if a few of the more popular companions made an appearance, perhaps as temporary companions, at a later game.

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vallore wrote...

Kileyan wrote...

I am happy that we won't be playing Hawke in DA3. Problem is, I personally didn't like Hawke, Kirkwall or the story of DA2, but I did love Varric and Aveline. Losing Hawke, of course will mean a brand new set of companions. I will miss them, but really miss Varric and Bianca:(


Not necessarily; I would not be surprised if a few of the more popular companions made an appearance, perhaps as temporary companions, at a later game.




I hope so, because while I did dislike a lot of DA2, Bioware did do an awesome job on the companions. I hate to see them lost. Even the characters I didn't like due to their personality were well done. Fenris for example, I couldn't stand his character, but while learning his background, I could picture in my mind what he went through while being forged into what he is, I could picture like reading a well written novel his past job as a killer for his masters. It was all very well done for the most part, even if certain characters weren't on my faves list......they were presented well.

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Kileyan wrote...

I am happy that we won't be playing Hawke in DA3. Problem is, I personally didn't like Hawke, Kirkwall or the story of DA2, but I did love Varric and Aveline. Losing Hawke, of course will mean a brand new set of companions. I will miss them, but really miss Varric and Bianca:(


You loved Aveline but didn't like Hawke?

Just... how

Aveline was one of the most unlikeable characters I've ever seen in a game

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Well, not liking Hawke is understandable, but well, Aveline is a character I personally hold mixed feelings towards, mostly because her characterization is done in a horrid way - if I take into account only the gameplay-info on her.. I think I like her - if I take into account only the cinematic and what is told to us about her.. I don't like her.

Varric is about the only decent companion-character in DA2 all-around. But he wasn't that great.

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I really doubt I will get a response to this from a developer but i'll ask anyway. Is there ANY chance whatsoever that through importing we could get a chance to see our Hawke and/or Warden as an NPC in a future Dragon Age game? It could be anything from a simple cameo which shouldnt be hard to implement or to have a part in the main story, which could be quite complicated i'd expect..

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 06 août 2011 - 01:45 .


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Welsh Inferno wrote...

I really doubt I will get a response to this from a developer but i'll ask anyway. Is there ANY chance whatsoever that through importing we could get a chance to see our Hawke and/or Warden as an NPC in a future Dragon Age game? It could be anything from a simple cameo which shouldnt be hard to implement or to have a part in the main story, which could be quite complicated i'd expect..


Mike said: "This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games,
but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will
very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden."

So, I suppose that is a tentative yes?

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Alright cool. I haven't been around the DA part of the forums much so thanks for the quote.

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Alright cool. I haven't been around the DA part of the forums much so thanks for the quote.


No prob. If you want the full quote, it is on the 2nd page of this thread.

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Playing as Leliana/ Sister Nightingale seems like a logical next step, though I know a lot of people would HATE that. She could be, "The Second Most Important Character In Thedas." ;)

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Personally, I don't mind a new protagonist for DAIII.

I would prefer my Warden over Hawke if given the choice between the two, but new is still fine. The idea of a Seeker is actually cool, and that's what feels like could be the next thing.

However, I do want closure for my other characters. It doesn't have to be grand closure, but I don't like the fact that I don't know what's happened (or what will happen).

Modifié par HallowedWarden, 06 août 2011 - 02:35 .


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Awww man! I'll miss Hawke. =(


Hawke isn't gone just yet. ;)


I will miss Hawke as well in Dragon Age 3. But if he/she shows up in Dragon Age 3, it will be interesting seeing him/her talk without me as the player choosing what they say. I guess that's where the Diplomatic / Sarcastic / Mean personalities come in.

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I don't like it. Having a new protagonist every game just feels strange...it feels like everything we did the last game didn't really matter besides unchangeable final events and small cameo appearances. I would love to have my Wardens back but honestly like many said, it would not be possible with the amount different characters you could have created. Sure you could always import the decisions and just remake your Warden in the new game but voice actors for all different races would prove...difficult.

But anyways back to different people each game: Like I said I don't like it. It feels like the story is bouncing around each game. Blight, Mages and Templars, whats next? The Qunari and the great Cookie Crisis? The games might have an over-arching storyline that we won't get until either DA3 or even a DA4 comes out but just playing as a new person each time....makes me feel disconnected with the world of Dragon Age.

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I agree with this. Having a new protaganist, runs the risk of the story becoming disjointed.DA2 had this,some us where probably scratching our heads and going wtf? At first.

I like hawke a great deal; just as much,if not more then the warden. I would rather have import bugs,then a whole new protogonist. I already have a suspicion it will be cassandra,which would ****** me off immensly. 

Keep hawke, or bring back the warden,and I will pre-order. 

IMO Hawke was great,as a character(Especially sarcastic femhawke) She/He was written well,maybe not quite as fleshed out as the warden,but still awsome.

Please dont ditch hawke! Keep Hawke or bring back the warden. I vote No to a new protagonist.

Modifié par Yuqi, 06 août 2011 - 07:49 .


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So... Why are we going to get new characters if everything else will always get retcon'd? Why not sticking to one protagonist on a different land? I know Dragon Age is about Thedas, but all the changes do is alienating us even more.

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he'll be back, in a cameo, as a badass.

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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.

And that's all I can say about that.


I only have this to say about the bolded.  

A nice expansion to end Hawke's story before DA3 moves on to someone new would be perfect. :wub:

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To me, this is awesome news! I am very attached to my warden, and even more so to my Hawke, but a new character for DA3 will be great! We do need something to wrap up Hawke's story though. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think an expansion pack would be the best way to do it. Hoping for more story DLC, of course, but I think an expansion pack is the only way it could be long enough to really wrap things up.

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That kinda sucks that neither The Warden nor Hawke will be the protagonist in Dragon Age 3. I mean, I can understand The Warden not being the protagonist, but Hawke played a HUGE role in the Mage-Templar War that will probably be in Dragon Age 3. It kinda doesn't make sense that Hawke isn't the protagonist, considering how Bioware described him as "the single most important character in the world of Dragon Age." If that's the case, then who is more important than Hawke? Where was this about a new protagonist confirmed anyway? Can someone post a link?

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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.

And that's all I can say about that.


Great news!

I, for one, hope though you manage to provide a story that actually feels finished at the end :)

Modifié par CloudOfShadows, 06 août 2011 - 07:10 .


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JFarr74 wrote...

That kinda sucks that neither The Warden nor Hawke will be the protagonist in Dragon Age 3. I mean, I can understand The Warden not being the protagonist, but Hawke played a HUGE role in the Mage-Templar War that will probably be in Dragon Age 3. It kinda doesn't make sense that Hawke isn't the protagonist, considering how Bioware described him as "the single most important character in the world of Dragon Age." If that's the case, then who is more important than Hawke? Where was this about a new protagonist confirmed anyway? Can someone post a link?


I'm pretty sure what they meant was Hawke was the single most important person in Thedas during the time period DA2 covers. Not that s/he is the most important person ever. But I can't remember the exact wording, though I believe this was clarified a few times in forum posts.

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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Since I'm in a sharing mood, I will put this out there: our intention is that for each major release of Dragon Age, you will take up the mantle of a new character. This does not mean your old character may never appear in future games, but as far as the core protagonist goes, if there is a DA III, it will very likely be neither Hawke nor The Warden.

We want to keep the series about the time and place, rather than about any singular character. While I know not everyone prefers that approach, I believe it's perfectly valid, especially if certain plans of ours to shore up world consistency (import bugs really bother me!) come to fruition, which I believe they will.

And that's all I can say about that.


I can understand what you mean, but I think people would be more accepting of a different guy running the show if two things weren't going on.  First, there are these crazy cliffhangers at the end of the game.  In the first game, my Warden chased Morrigan into the mirror and the story ended there.  There was this buildup like we'd be able to pick up from there in Dragon Age 2.  Instead, we pick up with a whole new character with no real resolution to the first game.  The second game ends on some crazy cliffhanger and now you're saying that we'll be starting a new character in the next game?  Please wrap things up, then switch to a new character.  One thing I really like about Mass Effect is that we can take the same guy through his full story.  Once Shepard's story is done, we can move on to the next guy.  It should be the natural progression of the story and world as a whole.

Second, the game is numbered, so people tend to think that the next game will be connected to the previous game and so on.  If you want to start a whole new story with new people, then add in a subtitle.  Like Dragon Age: Fall of the Chantry, or something to that effect.  Calling it Dragon Age 2 or 3 kinda gives people the idea that it's a continuation of the previous game.

Anyway, this is my feeling about it all.  The Warden really needs another game to put his story to bed.  And on that note, so does Hawke.

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If only the DA team had wrapped up the Origins storyline with WH rather than making it a vague cliffhanger. It honestly would've made it a lot easier for all of us.