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Or her portrait anyways. Pretty sure it's not Liara. Unless they changed her color again.


From the looks of the area it's that Omega docking area from that ME comic. So it may be Aria as a temp member.

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Seeing how this boild down to me versus everyone else, or less compatitive Quarian vs Asari, why don't we make a little bet or something?

I already PM'ed evil Demigod Chris on whether he can clarify (unlikely to happen, but hope dies last) ... the only thing worth talking about now would be what be the price for the one/s to win?


Chris has already commented on this.  He even mentions it's an asari placeholder, but not necessarily an indication that an asari is in the group atm.  So.. I'll take that bet that the placeholder is an asari.  You lose!

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Plus, Tali's neck isn't purple either.

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Memmahkth wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Seeing how this boild down to me versus everyone else, or less compatitive Quarian vs Asari, why don't we make a little bet or something?

I already PM'ed evil Demigod Chris on whether he can clarify (unlikely to happen, but hope dies last) ... the only thing worth talking about now would be what be the price for the one/s to win?


Chris has already commented on this.  He even mentions it's an asari placeholder, but not necessarily an indication that an asari is in the group atm.  So.. I'll take that bet that the placeholder is an asari.  You lose!


Nope, he didn't. He said placeholder. Not Asari-Placeholder. That is a fine but important difference.

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But her scarf is.

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I'm not against you neofelis, I'm just hopeful of it being aria, but I do see where your coming from, talis squad picture in me2 shows her neck, the metal plating and that blue headers coveringthe helmet, all I see is a purple head, nothing else.

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King Minos wrote...

I'm not against you neofelis, I'm just hopeful of it being aria, but I do see where your coming from, talis squad picture in me2 shows her neck, the metal plating and that blue headers coveringthe helmet, all I see is a purple head, nothing else.


Be assured I am feeling not threatened in any way. I am taking a certain pride in my assessment and will accordingly fall or scream of joy for being right with the revelation, whatever comes to be true.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

@Someone with Mass:
But her scarf is.


That's the thing. There's no sign of it in that placeholder.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

The color tone is definetely not Liara (especially that weird make-up she'd have, if it was make-up) and another Asari seems quite improbable being even temporary made squadmate.


Improbable on what basis exactly?

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The Twilight God wrote...

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Or her portrait anyways. Pretty sure it's not Liara. Unless they changed her color again.


From the looks of the area it's that Omega docking area from that ME comic. So it may be Aria as a temp member.


aren't there cerberus symbols on the walls?

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Someone With Mass wrote...

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@Someone with Mass:
But her scarf is.


That's the thing. There's no sign of it in that placeholder.


Well, .. one could as easily say that what others see as the typical Asari appendages is the scarf. Afterall, it's a portrait, not a HD image.

We will see soon enough, ... unless some mean dude/tte decides to torture us and chage the portraits altogether for that none resembles this one.

We'll just wait, and the one who was right gets a nice laugh (and a chance to jab the other *clasps hand*).

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didymos1120 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

The color tone is definetely not Liara (especially that weird make-up she'd have, if it was make-up) and another Asari seems quite improbable being even temporary made squadmate.


Improbable on what basis exactly?


Why would we get another Asari as a temporary squadmate?

The only instance I see would be Aria on Omega and possibly one on the Asari homeworld, but so far I'd outrule those because of the levels architecture. It looks too clean for being on Omega and the fighters are clearly of alliance design, making this located on an Asari world improbable.

There you go.


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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

The color tone is definetely not Liara (especially that weird make-up she'd have, if it was make-up) and another Asari seems quite improbable being even temporary made squadmate.


Improbable on what basis exactly?


Why would we get another Asari as a temporary squadmate?

The only instance I see would be Aria on Omega and possibly one on the Asari homeworld, but so far I'd outrule those because of the levels architecture. It looks too clean for being on Omega and the fighters are clearly of alliance design, making this located on an Asari world improbable.

There you go.


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Sorry for double post.


You've simply eliminated locations as probable candidates.  You still haven't explained why another asari is improbable.  Last I knew, they weren't restricted to just Omega or the Asari Republics.

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But given how Shepards nakama was supposed to be tighter and given how I simply not believe we will instead be granted temporary members all the time (this is the weak point in my argumentation of course), I ruled out those locations in which another Asari squadmember would be most case-sensitive and therefore likely.

I don't know what other places and with what other Asari in what situations we get to in ME3, but from the limited informations I have, I think I made a pretty logical estimation, if you understand what I am getting at.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

But given how Shepards nakama was supposed to be tighter and given how I simply not believe we will instead be granted temporary members all the time (this is the weak point in my argumentation of course), I ruled out those locations in which another Asari squadmember would be most case-sensitive and therefore likely.

I don't know what other places and with what other Asari in what situations we get to in ME3, but from the limited informations I have, I think I made a pretty logical estimation, if you understand what I am getting at.


i dunno about that.  lair of the shadow broker expanded on the concept of temporary squadmates pretty successfully, and anderson was shown to be a temporary squadmate.  given aria's history with cerberus, i can see how she could find out about IM's location and then recruit you in an effort to eliminate a mutal threat.

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Titan98RG wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

But given how Shepards nakama was supposed to be tighter and given how I simply not believe we will instead be granted temporary members all the time (this is the weak point in my argumentation of course), I ruled out those locations in which another Asari squadmember would be most case-sensitive and therefore likely.

I don't know what other places and with what other Asari in what situations we get to in ME3, but from the limited informations I have, I think I made a pretty logical estimation, if you understand what I am getting at.


i dunno about that.  lair of the shadow broker expanded on the concept of temporary squadmates pretty successfully, and anderson was shown to be a temporary squadmate.  given aria's history with cerberus, i can see how she could find out about IM's location and then recruit you in an effort to eliminate a mutal threat.



That might happen, yeah. But that purple,greyish slop doesn't really look like Aria, ... though Tali ain't quite a slop either ...

I'll settle with Tali looks more sloppish than Aria or Liara. Image IPB

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This.

It's so obvious its an ASARI. No debate on that. No tali, no quarian, no whatever. It's an asari for sure.

And the skin tone seems to match with Aria. Also Afterlife music was playing so it could be considered a hint.

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Why would we get another Asari as a temporary squadmate?

The only instance I see would be Aria on Omega and possibly one on the Asari homeworld, but so far I'd outrule those because of the levels architecture. It looks too clean for being on Omega and the fighters are clearly of alliance design, making this located on an Asari world improbable.

There you go.


Cerberus starts building space stations near the Omega 4 relay (from ME:Invasion). That could well perfectly be one.

And the scenery looks like a Cerberus base/hangar/space station to me. Look at the concept art. There's white, yellow, and grey colors, wich match Cerberus, and there's ships with the same color patern. The alliance pattern is blueish, not yellow and grey. Also the textures at the end of the video look like the Lazarus Station's.

I personally believe it's not Omega. But it could be a mission where you're helping aria take down a Cerberus space station.

Also no one said she will be a permanent squadmate.

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This.

It's so obvious its an ASARI. No debate on that. No tali, no quarian, no whatever. It's an asari for sure.

And the skin tone seems to match with Aria. Also Afterlife music was playing so it could be considered a hint.


Well, thanks for the picture, I couldn't make one myself (I HATE paint!).

If I misuse that one, I can adress some graphical indicators if you let me.

1.) The lack of darker shades indicating eyes. From how the head is turned, we would expect some darker shades where the eyes are located, like in your Aria Picture. But what we get is actually a more lighter color tone in that region, that doesn't really add up unless we have some weird lighting.

2.) That azure/white'ish shade we have in the lower half seems too dominant to be caused by lighting and doesn't really add up with what Asari normally look like or how they have their markings. One can however, never outrule exceptions of course.

3.) Also, I don't see the shadows that should come with the back part of the head where the appendages are located, like in your Aria picture. If the light would indeed come from that side to counteract the shadows, then we'd have more prominent eye-shadows, those however are non-existant as pointed out in 1.).

If I know look out for indicators for a typical quarian helmet:

A.) We have a very round form and where the faceplate is supposed to be, the lighter shades might be due to light reflection on said plate/mask like we have it on windows that are shined upon.

B.) The prominent spot on the lower half indicates another color tone, which could be because of different material and material color from the jugular parts of a quarians mask.

C.) I do however achknowledge how that scarf that should be there if female, or the tubes if male aren't quite present as we see here. I could argue this being due to artistic changes that are easier done with a helmet/suit than with an established face, but again that point is shaky.



We see, we have indicators for both interpretations, so I would simply ask that everyone just sticks with  whatever s/he thinks it is and let it be until we find out or get more conclusive data.


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Oh, ... I haven't read the comics or books and can't argue on that. If it is as such, you have a point. But again, I say we just stick to out opinions now. There is no need to try convincing other people other than maybe flesh out our arguments.

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You're persistent, but I'm more. I just searched a video on youtube and did some screenshots just so that you're happy enough and I can convince you.

Just for further reference: here is Tali's icon from ME2. Among other differences it's looking to the other side.

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Also if you wish the screenshots are here:

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http://i759.photobuc...reenShot002.jpg

And we already agreed it's not Liara. So if it's not Liara, and it's not Tali, who could it be? Aria is a pretty good bet.

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Artistic changes are likely.

Garrus does also look a bit different in the demo from what he is in ME2. Not by much, but evidently so.

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yes , yes its Aria T'Loak, its the same color the violet, Liara is Blue , and its visible the tattoo,
Liara not have a tattoo on the face.

support Aria in this trhead : http://social.biowar...5/index/7904611

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Artistic changes are likely.

Garrus does also look a bit different in the demo from what he is in ME2. Not by much, but evidently so.


We've already seen Tali's model in a pair of trailers and she's exactly the same she used to be. Plus, there is no change in Garrus appareance besides the new armor. He's still scarred, and has the same face.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Artistic changes are likely.

Garrus does also look a bit different in the demo from what he is in ME2. Not by much, but evidently so.


Here you have it:

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The blue parts on the right of the image are from Shepard's butt, not part of the icon itself, but looks like the armor of Garrus, xD. Sorry for the blurry image.

To me it looks exactly the same on the OP picture as in ME2.

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Exact head shape, color, and tattoo. Yeah, it's Aria. 

God damn, I can't wait until GC!

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Pulletlamer wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Artistic changes are likely.

Garrus does also look a bit different in the demo from what he is in ME2. Not by much, but evidently so.


Here you have it:

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The blue parts on the right of the image are from Shepard's butt, not part of the icon itself, but looks like the armor of Garrus, xD. Sorry for the blurry image.

To me it looks exactly the same on the picture as in ME2.


Yeah, it is very similar, but mirrored to the ME2 Garrus and for the rest ... well graphics are too blurry.
It would however be odd if they'd redesign Tali quite a bit and only mirror Garrus, I give you that.


But well ... I bet with Kaiser Shepard it is Tali/Quarian as opposed to his/her Asari theory, and I'll look forward to finding out. Image IPB