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[Praetor Knight]

if I have such an ending,
I want it to be like the ending of the dirty dozen.

[Fates end]

Well, I'd argue that even with its RPG aspects, some parts of ME are still controlled by Bioware. Shepard's character being one of those things. Sure, Shepard can be paragon or Renegade, but either way, he or she is still out to save the galaxy. I imagine they might have a "failure" option, but I don't think Shepard's character would be allowed to just sit back and watch the world burn, don't think Bioware would allow it.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Fates end wrote...

Well, I'd argue that even with its RPG aspects, some parts of ME are still controlled by Bioware. Shepard's character being one of those things. Sure, Shepard can be paragon or Renegade, but either way, he or she is still out to save the galaxy. I imagine they might have a "failure" option, but I don't think Shepard's character would be allowed to just sit back and watch the world burn, don't think Bioware would allow it.

Oh really? This link says otherwise

[efrgfhnm_]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

efrgfhnm wrote...

It seems like you want something that is actually quite a large effort, rather than a cool little cutscene, like in Arrival. I would agree with maybe having another video like that under certain conditions if BW had the time and weren't working on anything else, but your idea sounds like it would take up to much time that could be spent on other things.

Well, you recognized something that most others didn't.

And I mostly agree with you. BioWare's forte is plot, but it can be overdone, and my suggestion is dangerously bordering on overdoing the plot.

But again, if they did it in Arrival, they could do it and do it better in ME3.

Go me haha
And yeah, it would be quite hard to pull off what you are talking about, especially if you intend it to be an actual ending, rather than justy an unorthodox game voer screen... Would be quite hard to slip into dialogue at some point, and again would probably take up a chunk of resources I, at least, would prefer to be used in something else....
Probably true about Arrival I admit, it just seems like that was something they could put in because they were finished, and it was DLC rather than a main game.

[Shepard the Leper]

It would be really something if Shepard simply cannot stop the Reapers and the entire universe will be exterminated - kinda like a James Bond movie where the baddies win! I'm quite sure the happy-hollywood-ending crowd will go berserk, but I would cheer such an creative and interesting approach.

There is nothing more epic than fighting a battle you know you cannot win. And if you think that's not something worth remembering you only have to google Thermopylae

[Fates end]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

Fates end wrote...

Well, I'd argue that even with its RPG aspects, some parts of ME are still controlled by Bioware. Shepard's character being one of those things. Sure, Shepard can be paragon or Renegade, but either way, he or she is still out to save the galaxy. I imagine they might have a "failure" option, but I don't think Shepard's character would be allowed to just sit back and watch the world burn, don't think Bioware would allow it.

Oh really? This link says otherwise

While intriguing, there's no difference for that video depending on whether or not Shepard "tried" to stop the Reapers.  I mentioned there might be the possibilty of failure, but I just don't believe Bioware would allow Shepard to simply "Not try at all".

:  )

[Luvinn]

I think it might just be an amazing scene, where you walk up to the turian councilor and just be like, "reapers", then flip him the bird and go inhabit an underdeveloped world with your crew while the reapers wipe out advanced civilization.

[DarthSliver]

Where Shepard realizes the only way to stop the Reapers is to let the Civilization in 50k years do it, just like the Protheans but this time it will work.

[Destroy Raiden_]

At first I was like what? Then I read OP statement and I like it. I would like options to call a retreat too for instance we know when Earth gets attacked we are forced to retreat but I'd like the option to just go and retreat if I feel like the odds are against me during battles both space and on ground. I would like to do one or two I can't do this moments but of course during the final of the game shep either has to defeat the reapers or give them the galaxy.

[Hurbster]

A great thinker once said "you can fight without ever winning, but you can't win without a fight'.

[Escapulario100]

I can't see why not. Sure, I rather die fighting that live like a slave, but, there a multiple endings, and plus, more power to the player

[Dice2624]

This sort of "I quit" decision reminds me of Jade Empire (SPOILER AHEAD!) where you're about to have a final battle with Master Li, but you have the decision to not fight and let him kill you. I honestly feel that it's stupid for you to do all that work then just quit, but it's nice that Bioware gives you the option.

[xentar]

That seems more like deeming the galaxy not worthy of saving rather than giving up. And, by the way, what's the point of fighting a battle you cannot win?

[Han Shot First]

This could be cool if done right.

Fallout 1 had a 'lose' ending where your character could submit to becoming a Mutant, and betraying the location of the vault you were trying to save to the Super Mutants.

Check it out:

[LPPrince]

There's a youtube video you need to heed-

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Its really quite easy to do what you propose...but what I wouldn't mind seeing is a "run from responsibility" ending, where you essentially run to save yourself in self preservation or something

[Shepard the Leper]

Hurbster wrote...

A great thinker once said "you can fight without ever winning, but you can't win without a fight'.

Another one said "The supreme excellence is to subdue the enemy without a fight."

Fortunately, Shepard is a military moron. So we can be sure there will be a lot of fighting in ME3

[Robhuzz]

DarthSliver wrote...

Where Shepard realizes the only way to stop the Reapers is to let the Civilization in 50k years do it, just like the Protheans but this time it will work.

Very doubtful. The Reapers now know what the Protheans did and that they basicly spoiled the Reaper's little surprise attack. This time they will have to truly fight for it. If Shepard loses, it's over. The Reapers will not make the same mistake again. Those races living 50.000 years from now will once again have a nasty surprise coming, when the citadel relay suddenly opens.

Its really quite easy to do what you propose...but what I wouldn't mind seeing is a "run from responsibility" ending, where you essentially run to save yourself in self preservation or something

You better believe the Reapers (and especially Harbinger) aren't going to simply let Shepard get away with all he's done to stall the Reapers. Frankly, a 'run and save yourself' ending wouldn't work if you're the person the Reapers want dead/captured most.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 07 août 2011 - 12:07 .

[Shepard the Leper]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Shepard the Leper wrote...

There is nothing more epic than fighting a battle you know you cannot win. And if you think that's not something worth remembering you only have to google Thermopylae

Exactly. I like heroes who loose better than heroes who win. They are more heroic.



Quitting doesn't imply quitting in the very beginning. It may just be quitting after seeing there is absolutely no hope. Like a Kamakaze fighter. That's a great way of saying "F*ck this, I quit."

LOL - that's one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

But I agree with the Kamikaze part. An ME3 ending with Shepard flying the Normandy into the Reaper Mothership, to go out with a bang, would be something. Also a good way to add part four to the series (without Shepard though), so who knows xD

[Slayer299]

iOnlySignIn wrote...
Quitting doesn't imply quitting in the very beginning. It may just be quitting after seeing there is absolutely no hope. Like a Kamakaze fighter. That's a great way of saying "F*ck this, I quit."

Quitting is still throwing your hands up either at the beginning, middle, end and saying "F**K it, I quit. I'm taking my marbles and going home now",  and your mention of Kamikaze fighters is incorrect as an example. To use a specific, kamikaze fighters didn't 'quit', its a decision that "okay, i'm gonna die and I'm going to take that SOB with me", later on it was more of a way of 'the more Americans I kill to protect Japan the better' through a literal one-way trip for them.

But in neither case was it just a matter of apathy or not caring anymore and if anything, quite the opposite, they were willing to do "anything" to help stop the enemy.

[Medhia Nox]

I don't care if this option were in - more options make more happy people, but I'd never take it.

Quitting and sidelining yourself is so commonly droll.

And no - it is not "Zen".

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They do not write stories about common people who just sit by and watch the events of the world pass them by - and they're never told.

By all means though - if you want an effete Shepard - go to town.

I support Bioware putting it in.