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Who else is frustrated with the ME series? Open letter to Bioware.


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Sarge034 wrote...

 So, what do you all think?
 


That the bugs are few and don't affect anything all that significant, and thus aren't worth drawing a line in the sand over. Seriously, what are they?  There's:

a. Conrad.
b. Incorrect news story about the Consort plays.  Choice might be correctly recorded though, since you get the proper email from her.

Yes, there's the Anderson/Udina choice not being recorded into the endgame saves, but it's handled in ME2 with a question on the shuttle ride w/ Miranda and Jacob. 

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Mesina2 wrote...

Who makes patch for almost 4 year old game?

Bioware does.

Neverwinter Nights came out in 2002. Its latest patch was released in 2008.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Sarge034 wrote...

 So, what do you all think?
 


That the bugs are few and don't affect anything all that significant, and thus aren't worth drawing a line in the sand over. Seriously, what are they?  There's:

a. Conrad.
b. Incorrect news story about the Consort plays.  Choice might be correctly recorded though, since you get the proper email from her.

Yes, there's the Anderson/Udina choice not being recorded into the endgame saves, but it's handled in ME2 with a question on the shuttle ride w/ Miranda and Jacob. 


Supporting Samesh Batia's wife's body being given to the Alliance and saving the Sirta foundation base don't import correctly either. Then there's a bunch that don't import at all (Terra Firma and Lord Darius).

That makes me a sad panda. :(

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Seboist wrote...

Supporting Samesh Batia's wife's body being given to the Alliance and saving the Sirta foundation base don't import correctly either. Then there's a bunch that don't import at all (Terra Firma and Lord Darius).

That makes me a sad panda. :(


I must have missed the point where we found out for certain that these choices don't get imported... If so, that's a little disappointing, but I won't lose sleep over it, and I'm frankly amazed that something that small amounts to 'frustration' over the ENTIRE Mass Effect series for the OP.

On the other hand, I am sure things like these could be fixed relatively easily.  But I don't work for Bioware and I've never designed a computer game, so what the hell do I know?

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I think I read somewhere the the 360 can only record 13 completed save files. Since each time you beat the game, it's recorded as a save...including New Game+'s, he probably replayed several of his Shepard's multiple times and has exceeded his 13 character limit...any other Shepard's beyond the first 13 are considered invalid...

of course, I'm just assuming this is the case

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Seboist wrote...

Supporting Samesh Batia's wife's body being given to the Alliance and saving the Sirta foundation base don't import correctly either. Then there's a bunch that don't import at all (Terra Firma and Lord Darius).

That makes me a sad panda. :(


Except for the Sirta story, which I'd forgotten about, those aren't confirmed bugs.  Those are simply audio files that don't play for reasons unknown.  Given that a lot of other audio also doesn't play and was quite obviously cut, we can't be sure the news stories weren't deliberately dropped either.

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Hmm. As a casual reader of these forums, I do so dislike how so many people write opinion as fact.

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OP has ignored the golden rule.
Buy a console, and put up with any and all bugs until the powers taht be decide its worth their time and money to fix them.
OR
Buy a PC, and if the bugs persist, join the modding community and work around them when you want, and how you want.

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Didn't they say that the Conrad bug would addressed another way in ME3?

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Why do people care so much about conrad all he is a minor character what you can shoot in the foot and threaten in the first game?. If you don't like Console ME then go get a PC.

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PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

^ i agree with ur post as well.
side note: i love deep purple music :) nice choice :)


Glad you liked the post and the video ;) oddly enough in a strange twist of fates in the Deep Purple video I did you can actually see the correct paragon conrad choice played out at 0:45 secs.  It is a shame that Bioware never fixed the Conrad issue because it is now one of my favourite scenes in the game.  Just the look on Shepard's face after she gets slapped by the Asari says it all :o .

At the end of the day "**** ups" happen, video games these days are incredibly complexed and a few bugs or 200 are bound to get through the QA process.  What does annoy me a bit is Bioware's reluctance to rectify these bugs at all.  There should have been some way to fix the conrad issue and whilst it is great that modders out there have fixed the issue it is less than ideal.,

But as I said I don't think that is an indication that Bioware doesn't "care" about our choices and it certainly is not going to make me go out and cancel my Pre-order for the CE .  I cannot wait to experience the end of Shepards story and a few inconsequential human errors is not going to put me off.

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Shinian2 wrote...
Sorry if off topic, but how does the gibbed saves editor work? Does it only edit ME2 saves? Where can I get the most recent version. I found one that seems to be out of date, with few options.

Edit to add, I want to edit the ME1 plot points but they dont seem to be enabled

Have you tried this one?
http://social.biowar...m/project/4373/

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Sarge034 wrote...
Or just post to tell me I’m being stupid... Posted Image

that part. my Shepard spoke to verner once 4 years ago, got bored and never finished the conversation. if yer gonna skip ME3 go ahead, thats your chioce. its a stupid choice, especially considering the logic behind it

get over it, its really not that serious

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MACharlie1 wrote...

Didn't they say that the Conrad bug would addressed another way in ME3?


I believe so, although I don't know where I heard that.

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MACharlie1 wrote...

Didn't they say that the Conrad bug would addressed another way in ME3?



Yes. Game Informer Q&A with lead writer Mac Waters. See Link

Here's the statement if you don't want to search for it:

In ME 2, Conrad Verner seems to the think that Shepard held a gun to
his face, even if players chose the paragon option in ME 1. Was this
just a glitch, or is there some story reason behind this?


Well,
it may have been a glitch, or maybe Conrad was just having an off day
(even more off than usual). Stay tuned in Mass Effect 3 to see how
Verner deals with this embarrassing misstep with Shepard.



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Sundance31us wrote...
Have you tried this one?
http://social.biowar...m/project/4373/



This is great thank you. will be fixing that conrad bug. Will probably have to play the game again but will be worth it to play as my ryan shepard again...:happy:

Modifié par SpEcIaLRyAn, 05 août 2011 - 07:19 .


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ZenJestr wrote...

I think I read somewhere the the 360 can only record 13 completed save files. Since each time you beat the game, it's recorded as a save...including New Game+'s, he probably replayed several of his Shepard's multiple times and has exceeded his 13 character limit...any other Shepard's beyond the first 13 are considered invalid...

of course, I'm just assuming this is the case


I play on the 360 and I can say with certainty that this is not true. I have over 15 completed save files from ME1 and it recorded every one without problems.

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marshalleck wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Who makes patch for almost 4 year old game?

Blizzard comes to mind.

And they have a reputation for quality and polish as a result.


Valve when asked when Team Fortress 3 is ever coming
"Never we are going to patch it forever and continue improving on what we already have no point in making a new game"

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I'm on the fence with buying three but not for what OP is jumping over it for. I've decided not to buy the CE because I want to see what they're doing story wise, Character wise, how much retconning they'll be undertaking to LI and the universe, and how much rpg they'll be hacking out. Depending on what they do I'll walk away from it like I did DA2 and other games I don't give blind loyalty.

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Destroy Raiden wrote...

how much retconning they'll be undertaking to LI

Then you shouldn't buy ME2 in the first place with all the Tali retconning.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Destroy Raiden wrote...

how much retconning they'll be undertaking to LI

Then you shouldn't buy ME2 in the first place with all the Tali retconning.


Tali retcons? This I have to hear. 

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MELTOR13 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Destroy Raiden wrote...

how much retconning they'll be undertaking to LI

Then you shouldn't buy ME2 in the first place with all the Tali retconning.


Tali retcons? This I have to hear.

Me too. But according to Raiden, characters that become available as love inerests despite not being ones in previous game are retcons. Therefore, he must consider Tali a retcon as well.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Destroy Raiden wrote...

how much retconning they'll be undertaking to LI

Then you shouldn't buy ME2 in the first place with all the Tali retconning.


This again?

I suppose that technically making it so Tali was always in love with you from the beginning might be considered to be one, but it still makes sense given context. And if they'd intended that from the beginning, in which case it wouldn't be a retcon, how would you be able to tell the difference?

Modifié par The Interloper, 05 août 2011 - 10:12 .


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Sundance31us wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...
Sorry if off topic, but how does the gibbed saves editor work? Does it only edit ME2 saves? Where can I get the most recent version. I found one that seems to be out of date, with few options.

Edit to add, I want to edit the ME1 plot points but they dont seem to be enabled

Have you tried this one?
http://social.biowar...m/project/4373/


No, didn't see that. Thanks!

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Sarge034 wrote...

It is painful to say as I love the series, but I will not be buying ME3 when it comes out. I was going to pre-order the most expensive edition but I have decided that, at most, I will be buying ME3 used. Bioware has refused to patch the porting issues from ME to ME2. The PC community can, and has, modded the game to port the saves correctly. That leaves people who play consoles high and dry. I cannot justify giving my money to a company that advertises my ability to shape my own universe and then tells me that my choices don't matter. I have spoken to several people offline who feel the same way so I wanted to see what the community thought.  So, what do you all think?
 
If Bioware doesn’t care about my choices in game, I wonder if they will care about my choices out of game?
NO $ FOR YOU!  Posted Image
 
So please come, post, support, and help make a great series truly magnificent. Posted Image
Or just post to tell me I’m being stupid and help keep the thread active... Posted Image


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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 06 août 2011 - 08:32 .