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[Dionkey]

Ace of Dawn wrote...

King Minos wrote...

Bethesda is bad? I admit I have never seen bad press on Bethesda, why not ubisoft? Sure they add drm and have a habit of releasing games every year but better than every 4 years, I'm lookig forward to revelations.

Really, a lot of publishers and developers have their evil deeds and such. At the end of the day, they are business. They need money, either to make even more money or to make even more games. We forget that, sometimes.

I don't mind people making money, but quality should always be first. Unless the customer is being a dick, there should be no reason to nickle and dime them.

[legion999]

If this is true I hope somehow a different studio did it and it won't subtract from the singleplayer.
Offtopic however why are game developers so obsessed with adding multiplayer in? Assassins creed, dead space, Metro 2033, bioshock and maybe mass effect have all had or going to have multiplayer tacted on at the expense of singleplayer.

Modifié par legion999, 06 août 2011 - 01:55 .

[RenegadeXV]

Aren't Xbox 360 World linked with CVG? The same site that claimed this multiplayer rumor months back was actually real, despite the obvious lack of a source?

Xbox 360 World/CVG seem heavily intent on claiming rumors to be the truth. I'd take anything they say with quite a large grain of salt.

Modifié par COGNiTiON 1, 06 août 2011 - 01:23 .

[King Minos]

You can never have enough money.

[Kenthen]

legion999 wrote...

If this is true I hope somehow a different studio did it and it won't subtract from the singleplayer.
Offtopic however why are game developers so obcessed with adding multiplayer in? Assassins creed, dead space, Metro 2033, bioshock and maybe mass effect have all had or going to have multiplayer tacted on at the expense of singleplayer.

Because "multiplayer is the future" and the data says that when Consumer Consumerson goes shopping for games he picks the games that have multiplayer tacked on over the ones that don't.
Or something. I don't know.

Modifié par Kenthen, 06 août 2011 - 01:25 .

[Ace of Dawn]

legion999 wrote...

If this is true I hope somehow a different studio did it and it won't subtract from the singleplayer.
Offtopic however why are game developers so obcessed with adding multiplayer in? Assassins creed, dead space, Metro 2033, bioshock and maybe mass effect have all had or going to have multiplayer tacted on at the expense of singleplayer.

Yeah!

Except it doesn't. People working on multiplayer were hired specifically because they knew how to work with coding for multiplayer. That means they understand that better than other things. That means that they're are there specifically for that reason. If there was no multiplayer, they would not necessarily be working on Single Player. At least, nothing critical.

See, when desiging stuff. There are teams. You don't get a group of people and split them up, telling them they work on this or that without taking into account what they actually do. What does this mean? The people working on MP were hired because they knew MP. It doesn't detract. It makes use of the resources available.

As for why more games are getting MP. Lose-Lose. You're either criticized for not putting it in, or criticized for actually putting it in. Might as well go with the option that makes more money.

[Savber100]

legion999 wrote...

If this is true I hope somehow a different studio did it and it won't subtract from the singleplayer.
Offtopic however why are game developers so obcessed with adding multiplayer in? Assassins creed, dead space, Metro 2033, bioshock and maybe mass effect have all had or going to have multiplayer tacted on at the expense of singleplayer.

Well here's the question: 


Was Bioshock, Assassin's Creed, Dead Space, Metro 2033 franchises ruined by multiplayer? Did the singleplayer suck as a result? 

Modifié par Savber100, 06 août 2011 - 01:27 .

[comrade8472]

Dionkey wrote...

oracle343gspark wrote...

****es need to stop whining about multiplayer. Seriously all that would do is add the the experience and make the game better.

Do people NOT read the threads or something? People have brought up a million points why this could be bad and I am sick of reiterating it. If you aren't going to read then don't post.

15 pages worth nope not enough time in the world to read all theposts in all the threads I don't read all the posts bioware would need a team of 6 people just to read through All the posts in all the topics one person can't read all of them can they? if you can.... you have more patience than I 

[King Minos]

Ac brotherhood plot was shorter than ac 2, so was dead space
2, don't know about bioshock or metro.

[crimzontearz]

when you are putting out a game solely for its MP component then you are marketing the equivalent of an elaborate, expensive and visually appealing game of dodgeball. Dodgeball is mindless. A game like that (with a single player campaign that does not stand on its own merits) is worthless to a LOT of people around here who buy Bioware games (and their similar) solely for the long, rich, story driven single player experience.

As for the intelligence of people playing those games? I cannot pass judgement but if one thinks about it there has to be a reason why MP-heavy players (especially COD players) have such a bad rep among all other niches.....there must be a reason why when people have to pick a way to ruin a game that reason is "make it more like COD". You can tell me that all the jocks are actually smart and we are just generalizing when we consider most of them football fueled, ignorance driven meatheads.....but does the stereotype not hold true oftentime?

[Kenthen]

Savber100 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

If this is true I hope somehow a different studio did it and it won't subtract from the singleplayer.
Offtopic however why are game developers so obcessed with adding multiplayer in? Assassins creed, dead space, Metro 2033, bioshock and maybe mass effect have all had or going to have multiplayer tacted on at the expense of singleplayer.

Well here's the question: 


Was Bioshock, Assassin's Creed, Dead Space, Metro 2033 franchises ruined by multiplayer? Did the singleplayer suck as a result? 

Well Bioshock 2 was horrible and did incredibly poorly, so...possibly?
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood did well on the other hand but then it was Assassin's Creed 2 but MOAR(!!!), which is exactly what people wanted. Based on how the multiplayer fared I'd say it didn't really affect anything one way or the other, but that's based entirely on my own experience with the game, SP and MP both.

The other games I haven't played so I can't say.

[crimzontearz]

King Minos wrote...

Ac brotherhood plot was shorter than ac 2, so was dead space
2, don't know about bioshock or metro.

DS2 was about the same length as DS1 and with less backtracking

it was also a substantially better product AND according to the rumors Gaider wrote some of it.....

[DTKT]

Savber100 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

If this is true I hope somehow a different studio did it and it won't subtract from the singleplayer.
Offtopic however why are game developers so obcessed with adding multiplayer in? Assassins creed, dead space, Metro 2033, bioshock and maybe mass effect have all had or going to have multiplayer tacted on at the expense of singleplayer.

Well here's the question: 


Was Bioshock, Assassin's Creed, Dead Space, Metro 2033 franchises ruined by multiplayer? Did the singleplayer suck as a result? 

There was no multiplayer in Metro 2033.

Modifié par DTKT, 06 août 2011 - 01:34 .

[King Minos]

What's next on the daily bad news, Nolan north voicing liara ?

[100k]

Savber100 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

If this is true I hope somehow a different studio did it and it won't subtract from the singleplayer.
Offtopic however why are game developers so obcessed with adding multiplayer in? Assassins creed, dead space, Metro 2033, bioshock and maybe mass effect have all had or going to have multiplayer tacted on at the expense of singleplayer.

Well here's the question: 


Was Bioshock, Assassin's Creed, Dead Space, Metro 2033 franchises ruined by multiplayer? Did the singleplayer suck as a result? 

Do any of those games have single players as focused and elaborate as Mass Effect? 

[King Gigglez]

I think that even though the multiplayer is bad news, it can be done.... I think one thing is, it should be on a separate disk compared to the rest of the story, I would be greatly depressed if there aren't four disks (3 for Campaign. 1 for multiplayer). The Multiplayer also has to be SEPARATE from the campaign. I will be pissed if it isn't.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

King Minos wrote...

Ac brotherhood plot was shorter than ac 2, so was dead space
2, don't know about bioshock or metro.

AC Brotherhood's plot being shorter has sweet nothing to do with the implementation of MP.

Not only that, it's not the proper 'sequel' as such. There IS going to be an Assassins Creed 3, Brotherhood and Revelations are just follow-ups to Ezio's story, so they are bound to be a bit shorter than AC2 was, with or without the MP addition, which as already stated would have had nothing to do with the plot being shorter.

[DTKT]

King Minos wrote...

What's next on the daily bad news, Nolan north voicing liara ?

Breaking news!

Nolan North is voicing the entire Mass Effect game. Including sound effects.

[C9316]

Bullsh*tmagazine wrote...
Breaking news!

Shep is confirmed by bioware officials to die no matter what choices you made beforehand.

[crimzontearz]

C9316 wrote...

Bullsh*tmagazine wrote...
Breaking news!

Shep is confirmed by bioware officials to die no matter what choices you made beforehand.

ahahahahahaha.........no

[Dionkey]

comrade8472 wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

oracle343gspark wrote...

****es need to stop whining about multiplayer. Seriously all that would do is add the the experience and make the game better.

Do people NOT read the threads or something? People have brought up a million points why this could be bad and I am sick of reiterating it. If you aren't going to read then don't post.

15 pages worth nope not enough time in the world to read all theposts in all the threads I don't read all the posts bioware would need a team of 6 people just to read through All the posts in all the topics one person can't read all of them can they? if you can.... you have more patience than I 

All these points have been recited 5 billion times. If you aren't going to read and try to find the points, how can you say your point is right? That's just being biased.

[C9316]

Fan who jumped the gun wrote...

Bullsh*tmagazine wrote...
Breaking news!

Shep is confirmed by bioware officials to die no matter what choices you made beforehand.

If this magazine said it, then it must be true! OMG! BIOWARE YOU F*CKING TRAITORS!!!!!! *Cancels Pre-Order*

[Kenthen]

crimzontearz wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Bullsh*tmagazine wrote...
Breaking news!

Shep is confirmed by bioware officials to die no matter what choices you made beforehand.

ahahahahahaha.........no

It's true, I read it on the internet somewhere.

[crimzontearz]

Kenthen wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Bullsh*tmagazine wrote...
Breaking news!

Shep is confirmed by bioware officials to die no matter what choices you made beforehand.

ahahahahahaha.........no

It's true, I read it on the internet somewhere.

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