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[BloodyTalon]

Hmm took me awhile to read this thread but thank you to the pople that bought the mag and posted stuff.

[JamieCOTC]

delete

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 06 août 2011 - 11:32 .

[Davie McG]

I would have done if I wasn't hungover and there wasn't a wall of water outside my door.

Definitely been a stay in day.

[Gatt9]

Commdor wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

http://www.neogaf.co...6&postcount=149
Someone over at NeoGaf got their hands on the magazine.
"Well, if you believe the rumours - which we certainly do - ME3 will have MP. According to various sources, there will be a batch of 3 player co-op missions that run parallel to the main story, with each player assuming the role of a single squad mate. It seems likely that this will happen, and it'll form part of EA's Online Pass system. However devs have been known to ditch MP during development in the past, if it doesn't work..."
So, there you have it. All it consists of is the rumor that's been spreading already. No time on when it would be announced, and no real source. Not Hudson, not the doctors, just a random no body who hasn't even been confirmed as having any hand within the project.

So that's it? The magazine was only rumormongering. I feel sorry for BioWare, getting all this flak over nothing.

Actually,  it's highly likely it isn't a rumor.  I'd say it's a certainty at this point.

1.  EA wants multiplayer in everything to force used game purchasers to pay them for used games to,  and they use multiplayer and lockouts to do it.

2.  35 pages and not a word from anyone at Bioware.

3.  They delayed the game for months,  for a "New market opportunity",  kinect doesn't fit the bill.  Implementing Kinect should be just some function calls to get input,  and sending the input to the functions that the buttons use.  For dialogue,  should just be reading in the input and checking the string against the options.  It's not a little thing,  but I don't think it requires the delay they used.  A delay of 4-6 weeks I'd expect.  But Multiplayer?  That would take months to add.

I'm pretty confident it's not a rumor anymore,  and I expect the magazine printed it this way to get a scoop on something they already know for certain,  without breaking a moritorium on announcing it.  It's far from the first time the industry did it this way.

[Davie McG]

Gatt9 wrote...

Commdor wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

http://www.neogaf.co...6&postcount=149
Someone over at NeoGaf got their hands on the magazine.
"Well, if you believe the rumours - which we certainly do - ME3 will have MP. According to various sources, there will be a batch of 3 player co-op missions that run parallel to the main story, with each player assuming the role of a single squad mate. It seems likely that this will happen, and it'll form part of EA's Online Pass system. However devs have been known to ditch MP during development in the past, if it doesn't work..."
So, there you have it. All it consists of is the rumor that's been spreading already. No time on when it would be announced, and no real source. Not Hudson, not the doctors, just a random no body who hasn't even been confirmed as having any hand within the project.

So that's it? The magazine was only rumormongering. I feel sorry for BioWare, getting all this flak over nothing.

Actually,  it's highly likely it isn't a rumor.  I'd say it's a certainty at this point.

1.  EA wants multiplayer in everything to force used game purchasers to pay them for used games to,  and they use multiplayer and lockouts to do it.

2.  35 pages and not a word from anyone at Bioware.

3.  They delayed the game for months,  for a "New market opportunity",  kinect doesn't fit the bill.  Implementing Kinect should be just some function calls to get input,  and sending the input to the functions that the buttons use.  For dialogue,  should just be reading in the input and checking the string against the options.  It's not a little thing,  but I don't think it requires the delay they used.  A delay of 4-6 weeks I'd expect.  But Multiplayer?  That would take months to add.

I'm pretty confident it's not a rumor anymore,  and I expect the magazine printed it this way to get a scoop on something they already know for certain,  without breaking a moritorium on announcing it.  It's far from the first time the industry did it this way.

Just because EA is the publisher doesn't mean to say it's definently going to be a muliplayer.

The only evidence we have are eurogamer starting a rumour then other people writing articles based on that one, including the magazine cover that started this thread.

All we have is rumour and conjecture, even if Bioware are making multiplayer it is exactly the kind of feature than can get cut between now and reslease, which is the best of a year away.

Modifié par Davie McG, 07 août 2011 - 12:43 .

[didymos1120]

Gatt9 wrote...

Actually,  it's highly likely it isn't a rumor.  I'd say it's a certainty at this point.

That's not what "certainty" means, you know.

[Savber100]

So what did I miss? I'm getting a lot of mixed messages here. Was the magazine just a bunch of hogwash?

[redneckwonderland]

Any chance it could be a new game? id support this was a new game or DLC expansion for those who want it. not my choice tho

[Someone With Mass]

When designing a multiplayer, you might want to start with designing it, instead of deciding about half a year before release that you want it in your game.

That is, if you don't want it to be utter crap.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 07 août 2011 - 01:03 .

[didymos1120]

Savber100 wrote...

So what did I miss?I'm getting a lot of mixed messages here. Was the magazine just a bunch of hogwash?

Yes.  People have posted the "content" multiple times now in the last few pages.

[Davie McG]

Savber100 wrote...

So what did I miss? I'm getting a lot of mixed messages here. Was the magazine just a bunch of hogwash?

This is what the magazine used as its source.

Not what I would call a certain thing by any means, an un-named source with 'insider information' 'their mole'. Please, I've read more believable articles in The Sun.

Edit: Forgot to put in link, slight fail.

Modifié par Davie McG, 07 août 2011 - 01:06 .

[Chala]

redneckwonderland wrote...

Any chance it could be a new game? id support this was a new game or DLC expansion for those who want it. not my choice tho

I have a vague memory that someone said that they want to make a MP spin off (or something like that).
Maybe all those rumors are a sign that the development of this spin off is progressing to something more concrete...

[Rekkampum]

  Here is a link to a site that talks about the XBOX World 360 magazine cover.

Also, while Casey Hudson didn't explicitly say there was multiplayer in ME3 during his GI interview, he did allude to some possible form of co-op in his response. Before this latest magazine cover, the consensus was that there wasn't going to be any MP :

"As a single player experience, and just as a world that people want to immerse themselves in and share, we've been trying to think of a way that makes sense for people to experience Mass Effect with their friends," says executive producer Casey Hudson. "We haven't yet come up with a way to do that, so we don't have anything to announce at this time. But, obviously, multiplayer is something we want to do more of in the future as a company."(56)

I doubt it will be the conventional style of multiplayer if it is.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, wouldn't any announcement of something like MP pop up here on the official website's announcements section first anyway? 

Modifié par Rekkampum, 07 août 2011 - 01:31 .

[Lunatic LK47]

Ieldra2 wrote...


Also MP seems to be some kind of dogma for EA. I hate that as a matter of principle.

Uh, for good ****ing reason? Played Battlefield 2 for the PC in 2005 and EA's servers are utter crap. Lo and behold, Command & Conquer Generals, an 8-year-old game, and its year-younger expansion pack had the same freaking problem.

[Lunatic LK47]

InkognitoY wrote...

Honestly, I think most of the backlash about multiplayer is that people fear it will detract from the single player. These fears are not unwarranted, as we have seen a trend of more and more focus on multiplayer, with single player thrown in as a side mission.

I wouldn't mind multiplayer, because quite frankly I wouldn't play it if it were made under these conditions:

1) A separate team working on it, while the original Bioware team focuses solely on SP.
OR
2) It is a DLC released after the main game has been released.

In other words - The Bioware team that made ME1 and ME2 are left to solely focus on ME3 single player.

I personally feel that a lot less people would complain about multiplayer if Bioware stated that one of these two options was reality.

Thing is, EA did a game that was option 1, and that's called Medal of Honor 2010. Both packages felt half-assed even with two dedicated teams. Unless it's two high-quality teams, I don't see the freaking point in attempting it.

[The Edge]

I just wish, multiplayer or not, SOMEONE would take a stance and stick to it. The shifty-ness is disconcerting and annoying

[100k]

Gatt9 wrote...

Commdor wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

http://www.neogaf.co...6&postcount=149
Someone over at NeoGaf got their hands on the magazine.
"Well, if you believe the rumours - which we certainly do - ME3 will have MP. According to various sources, there will be a batch of 3 player co-op missions that run parallel to the main story, with each player assuming the role of a single squad mate. It seems likely that this will happen, and it'll form part of EA's Online Pass system. However devs have been known to ditch MP during development in the past, if it doesn't work..."
So, there you have it. All it consists of is the rumor that's been spreading already. No time on when it would be announced, and no real source. Not Hudson, not the doctors, just a random no body who hasn't even been confirmed as having any hand within the project.

So that's it? The magazine was only rumormongering. I feel sorry for BioWare, getting all this flak over nothing.

Actually,  it's highly likely it isn't a rumor.  I'd say it's a certainty at this point.

1.  EA wants multiplayer in everything to force used game purchasers to pay them for used games to,  and they use multiplayer and lockouts to do it.

2. 35 pages and not a word from anyone at Bioware.

3.  They delayed the game for months,  for a "New market opportunity",  kinect doesn't fit the bill.  Implementing Kinect should be just some function calls to get input,  and sending the input to the functions that the buttons use.  For dialogue,  should just be reading in the input and checking the string against the options.  It's not a little thing,  but I don't think it requires the delay they used.  A delay of 4-6 weeks I'd expect.  But Multiplayer?  That would take months to add.

I'm pretty confident it's not a rumor anymore,  and I expect the magazine printed it this way to get a scoop on something they already know for certain,  without breaking a moritorium on announcing it.  It's far from the first time the industry did it this way.

Highlighted for emphasis. 

Modifié par 100k, 07 août 2011 - 01:37 .

[Davie McG]

100k wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

Commdor wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

http://www.neogaf.co...6&postcount=149
Someone over at NeoGaf got their hands on the magazine.
"Well, if you believe the rumours - which we certainly do - ME3 will have MP. According to various sources, there will be a batch of 3 player co-op missions that run parallel to the main story, with each player assuming the role of a single squad mate. It seems likely that this will happen, and it'll form part of EA's Online Pass system. However devs have been known to ditch MP during development in the past, if it doesn't work..."
So, there you have it. All it consists of is the rumor that's been spreading already. No time on when it would be announced, and no real source. Not Hudson, not the doctors, just a random no body who hasn't even been confirmed as having any hand within the project.

So that's it? The magazine was only rumormongering. I feel sorry for BioWare, getting all this flak over nothing.

Actually,  it's highly likely it isn't a rumor.  I'd say it's a certainty at this point.

1.  EA wants multiplayer in everything to force used game purchasers to pay them for used games to,  and they use multiplayer and lockouts to do it.

2. 35 pages and not a word from anyone at Bioware.

3.  They delayed the game for months,  for a "New market opportunity",  kinect doesn't fit the bill.  Implementing Kinect should be just some function calls to get input,  and sending the input to the functions that the buttons use.  For dialogue,  should just be reading in the input and checking the string against the options.  It's not a little thing,  but I don't think it requires the delay they used.  A delay of 4-6 weeks I'd expect.  But Multiplayer?  That would take months to add.

I'm pretty confident it's not a rumor anymore,  and I expect the magazine printed it this way to get a scoop on something they already know for certain,  without breaking a moritorium on announcing it.  It's far from the first time the industry did it this way.

Highlighted for emphasis. 

Part of the hype, look how out of hand some of the FemShep threads are about the fifth Shepard without any intervention.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Mass Effect: Unridden?

Sort of like a tangential tie-in to the main storyline (ala Halo: ODST)? Now, THAT I would definitely get psyched for (it could even be released shortly after ME3, like 4-6 months after). Optional co-op, with each player being given their own dialogue options, plus a linear story campaign. Shooter combat with Mass Effect's powers and character progression. Arena-style combat missions for PvP. Who wouldn't want that?

Just please, no half-assed multiplayer component in my trilogy. PLEASE. Make it a separate game, with a clear focus on the co-op and social aspect.

[Ianamus]

100k wrote...

2. 35 pages and not a word from anyone at Bioware.

Highlighted for emphasis. 

Yes. And That's more disconcerting than the actual magazine article. 

Modifié par EJ107, 07 août 2011 - 01:48 .

[didymos1120]

EJ107 wrote...

100k wrote...

2. 35 pages and not a word from anyone at Bioware.

Yes. And That's more disconcerting than the actual magazine article. 

Yeah, them doing pretty much same thing they always do is disconcerting.   Wait....why is that disconcerting?

[-Skorpious-]

EJ107 wrote...

100k wrote...

2. 35 pages and not a word from anyone at Bioware.

Highlighted for emphasis. 

Yes. And That's more disconcerting than the actual magazine article. 

Agreed. Also, this is my post from 10 hours ago, and I believe it still applies -

-Skorpious- wrote...

Although this doesn't pertain completely to this MP rumor, I still can't help but feel disappointed that Bioware moderates these forums so poorly/cares so little about the "feelings" on their fans (even if these feelings are mostly whining, Bioware should be at least somewhat concerned that several members of their fanbase are growing ulcers); a fact made worse since they hire community staff such as Chris Priestly and Stanley Woo specifically to organize social events and communicate with potential consumers/fans directly, whose responsibility I assume would include addressing concerns that the community feels very strongly about in a clear and concise manner. 

Would it really hurt to give a definitive answer to MP? Although I believe Casey when he mentioned the little tidbit of info regarding MP in ME3 during the SDCC Q&A, it was, however, an indirect answer, so these rumors do carry some weight if not dismissed directly and clearly by a Bioware developer. 

The game is, after all, in the final stages of production - if MP is indeed a feature of ME3 it is not coming out and vice-versa. Basically, instead of redirecting threads, I wish Bioware would either A) tell us to expect more info on MP "soon" or  claim that "MP is something we are considering for future Mass Effect titles, but ME3 will remain a strictly SP experience". 

The way Bioware seems to be handling this situation (and previous situations) is shameful at best.

[MrFob]

It's a weekend people. Usually the BW activity is decreases a bit on weekends and I can't blame them for that.
BTW: How come, in the "5 seconds of purple asari in a vid means Aria is a squad mate" thread a BW response means that the speculation is true and in this thread the lack of a BW response means the speculations are true? Seems a bit inconsistent to me.
I'll wait for official sources before I start to go up the wall about this. We'll probably know more at gamescom.

Modifié par MrFob, 07 août 2011 - 02:00 .

[ramdog7]

I can't bl

[ramdog7]

I can't believe ppl are still commenting on this bull ****