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[ObserverStatus]

Also, some episodes have interesting plots.

[Dovahzeymahlkey]

I enjoy watching a cartoon about love and tolerance, based around the lives of 6 colorful equines.

 

Why is that so bad to some people?

[TheBlackBaron]

Fandom brings me here though. the people I have meet here are the main reason I even bother with BSN/BWF anymore.

 

This pretty much. 

 

Compared to the halcyon days of 2011-2012, I barely visit Equestria Daily anymore, and if I'm being honest my passion for the show has cooled off a bit as well. But in terms of actual episode quality, it's been a steady upward climb and the corners of the fandom I actually inhabit (away from the insanity that is /mlp/ or ponychan or EQD) keep me coming back. 

 

[LPPrince]

Yeah, I never visit Equestria Daily anymore. I just watch the episodes.

[Am1vf]

Now that you're all mentioning it, I haven't visited Equestria Daly in a long time, and I didn't even noticed I stopped going. I suppose I get more than enough pony from the sources EQD showed me in the past I no longuer need and intermediary. I should decide if that's good or bad.

[Dominus]

I literally give no damns about CS Lewis or his opinions about childishness (which isn't relevant to what I was asking), but my point is, that doesn't answer anything. What aspects of this show make it worth watching. Help me to understand.

Really wish I was here earlier, better late than never. The appeal for this show is fairly wide, but it's not going to work for everyone. I should also point out that not all episodes are created equally in terms of quality. I avoid Re-Watching Season 1 as it's more that particular scenes nailed it than the entire episode being worthwhile.

 

Having said all this, here's a few reasons MLP:FiM may be for you. For me, it's a combined formula of previous cartoons that creates a surprising amount of drama juxtaposed with very cartoony characters. Some go for the references, as the Quantity/Quality of allusions is astounding, some going back to the early 20th Century. The show is dual-layered(at least with adult humor), a bit like Animaniacs. Children can be seeing one show and the adults are watching something almost wholly different. The episodes are also heavily engrained into morality and ethical dilemmas. Not so much with Season 1, but Season 2 and especially Season 4 hit this like no one else.

 

I'm not going to re-write all the tl:dr stuff from yesteryear but I'll throw the original bit in a spoiler button. It contains spoilers to Flight to the Finish:

 

Spoiler

I'm conflicted on that subject. If the CMC do ever actually get their C. Marks, I'd prefer it to be unintentional, or rather that they get them out of necessity instead of trying to force their way into becoming marked. It'd seem rather anticlimactic to me if said moment had happened the same way they'd been trying for countless episodes. As far as the possibility of flight, yeah, I'd admit to hoping she'd get it that time. I couldn't tell how the episode was going to play out.

 

Endgames aside, it was a fantastic episode - in particular due to the drama itself. Even being a Child-Centric episode(relatively speaking), the motives and machinations are a bit heftier than Daring Don't or Castle Mane-ia. There wasn't as much emotional investment in Castle Mane-ia for me. It was essentially a scooby doo episode, playing off of slapstick-y humor and those sorts of gags.  Daring Do isn't narratively complicated, but the humor makes up for it.

 

With FttF, Miss Harshwhinny poorly influences rainbow dash to be something she isn't - Rigid and Professional(though this isn't maliciously done. With a last name like that, it's not surprising). It's not the main ingredient to the downfall of Scoot, but it creates an extra sense of pressure and tension between the CMC after the less-than-enthusiastic scrutinization. With the stage set, Scootaloo pulls an Applejack and overworks herself not out of persistance, but perhaps vanity and self-doubt? To add to this, Apple Bloom tosses her even farther into oblivion by outright abandoning her for the Equestrian Games - something I personally didn't expect.

 

It's this particular style of storytelling that I think makes MLP ahead of everyone else in terms of Televised Cartoon Shows(at least in the Satirical Sub-Genre i.e. Animaniacs/Regular Show/Adventure Time/etc.)  

 

Is it my ideal Cartoon in terms of storytelling? Not necessarily. I preferred Secret of NIMH, Fievel, and the Great Mouse Detective for that sort of thing. I'll throw Ferngully in there too. They were better at taking themselves seriously. MLP wants to do Drama and Wacky Humor and musicals and all that at the same time. It's a tall order, and even when done "right", it's not necessarily perfect. For the story-centric episodes, they're greatly inspired by Disney Movies(Big surprise) and similarly styled narratives.

 

A big part of the appeal is visuals. Faust seemed to start off with Flash around the time Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends but they've nailed in with MLP, and expanded in terms of technique and production value. Season 4 has been tapping into lighting effects and having multiple characters moving off-screen or in typically unseen ways(i.e. Castle Mane-ia)

 

You also have to take in the enormous volume of content made by fans, which could absorb 100 hours(or more?). As a step of Shameless Promotion, feel free to try my MLP Starter Pack, which contains almost eeeeeverything that's been made, short of GIFs(too big for the file now, which is giant as is). If none of this sounds appealing to you, I'd say find something that does. Not sure what else to say on that topic.

 

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The whole Recon clopping thing. My personal guess is he's screwing with your head, not your waifus. More like than not, he's as much a clopper as I am. Oh boy, here we go.

 

Let it go, peeps. 

 

~Looking Sharp~

~Wub Da Indoors~

~Cross-Promotion-Crossover~

[Gravisanimi]

I really only go on EQD anymore so I can find the newest episodes to down- I mean watch on Youtube legitimately. Speaking of which, video imbed means we can post them on the thread now, right? Cool

[Anzer]

Just wanted to stop into one of my favorite threads with some of my favorite internet peoples about one of my favorite shows!

 

Hai. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Go to EQD every day. XD

[JulianRmz]

So a MLP thread got pinned on Bioware social network...


...best forum ever! Yay!

[ObserverStatus]

Go to EQD every day. XD

'bout 4 times a week myself

[Volus Warlord]

I literally give no damns about CS Lewis or his opinions about childishness (which isn't relevant to what I was asking), but my point is, that doesn't answer anything. What aspects of this show make it worth watching. Help me to understand.

Giving no damns about CS Lewis is a sign of intellectual depravity, but moving on..

 

I never got "hooked" on the show, but I did watch a few episodes. Well I watched like 10 episodes. 

 

Except for the ones with Rarity front and center, it just had a laid back, bizarre sense of humor to it. Similar in nature to Spongebob or Fairly Odd Parents. It was funny without resorting to the dirty side. The characters were diverse, plausible, and consistent; the plots were never overly serious in nature;  and it was just in general family friendly without being as intolerably dumbed down as, say, Barney. 

 

I stopped watching the show because it was too girly.  No really, it's really girly and after a few episodes I wanted to watch ESPN or lift weights or something for 5 hours straight. 

[LPPrince]

Just wanted to stop into one of my favorite threads with some of my favorite internet peoples about one of my favorite shows!

 

Hai. 

 

Hah, hey Z.

[LPPrince]

I really only go on EQD anymore so I can find the newest episodes to down- I mean watch on Youtube legitimately. Speaking of which, video imbed means we can post them on the thread now, right? Cool

 

Video embed means yes, we can have episodes posted literally right here in the thread, with just a play button away from being watched.

[What a Succulent Ass]

 

...Still don't care about CS Lewis.

 

But yeah, I've tried watching more of it and it's just too obnoxious for me. It isn't aggressively obnoxious like most children's programmes, and to its credit, it respects the intelligence of its target demographic, but nah. I cannot enjoy anything that irritating. 

 

You corny as hell for not being able to watch a show because it's "too girly" though. Is it really that serious, my guy? The answer is no. 

 

Re: "Life lessons," I'm not sure that a kid's show really has much to teach anything we all should know by this age. 

[TheBlackBaron]

...Still don't care about CS Lewis.

 

But yeah, I've tried watching more of it and it's just too obnoxious for me. It isn't aggressively obnoxious like most children's programmes, and to its credit, it respects the intelligence of its target demographic, but nah. I cannot enjoy anything that irritating. 

 

You corny as hell for not being able to watch a show because it's "too girly" though. Is it really that serious, my guy? The answer is no. 

 

Re: "Life lessons," I'm not sure that a kid's show really has much to teach anything we all should know by this age. 

 

The Life Lessons aspect has grown somewhat more out of focus since the first season (the only season where all episodes carried the EI bug - subsequent seasons didn't have that TV code), but we still enjoy them mostly for their own sake, rather than because of their nominal applicability. Sometimes the show also manages to subvert its usual patterns in that regard in really funny ways, such as the Season 2 episode "The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000" (which also had a Music Man parody by way of the Simpsons). 

[Cainhurst Crow]

The show isn't for everyone of course, there will always be people who can't enjoy the show and just can't get into it. That's the way it is for most things, and I've experienced that first hand. For me it was the witcher games, I just couldn't muster up the hoots to actually get into the story and play it. For my brother it was frozen, the lack of cynical mocking of idealism and the light heartedness was almost unbearable for him. 

 

Everyone has their own thing that they can't stand for some reason, even if it doesn't make sense, and personally I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

[ObserverStatus]

Hate to admit it, but RJ is right about one thing, some of us are too old to get anything out of the "life lessons". The only episode where any of the characters were having problems that even tangentially related to my life was Sweet and Elite but that episode just reinforced my bad habits. I mostly just watch it because it's brightly colored, cheerful, amusing, and I've met a lot of other fans who I like. Ah yes, and the plot.

[Dovahzeymahlkey]

i find the show refreshing. In a world where bad and evil are becoming ever blurred, its nice to see something GOOD for a change.

[LPPrince]

i find the show refreshing. In a world where bad and evil are becoming ever blurred, its nice to see something GOOD for a change.

 

This is why I'm getting tired of Bioware's bittersweet "here we made you feel bad" endings.

 

World's trying too hard to be dark and edgy. We could use some more good in media.

[What a Succulent Ass]

So how you all feel about all this porn sh*t people make of a little girls' show. Or the harassment of underage voice actresses. I ask because I assume, as the sane members (also an assumption) of the "grown man" demographic of this show, you've got to have an opinion on this. 

 

Sometimes the show also manages to subvert its usual patterns in that regard in really funny ways, such as the Season 2 episode "The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000" (which also had a Music Man parody by way of the Simpsons). 

Ion't know what the hell this means. I didn't watch the Simpsons growing up, and in all my years, I've managed to catch maybe five episodes. 

 

...But Frozen was just straight booty buttcheeks. I mean, c'mon. Disney can do better. Not really, but c'mon.

 

 

Hate to admit it, but RJ is right about one thing, some of us are too old to get anything out of the "life lessons". The only episode where any of the characters were having problems that even tangentially related to my life was Sweet and Elite but that episode just reinforced my bad habits. I mostly just watch it because it's brightly colored, cheerful, amusing, and I've met a lot of other fans who I like. Ah yes, and the plot.

 

To be quite frank, I'm rather cynical when it comes to the idea of valuable "life lessons" coming from media in general.

[AresKeith]

Hey guys, what's going on in h--

 

*turns around and walk out quickly*

[ObserverStatus]

This is the internet RJ, one of its greatest draws is the ability to "review bomb" people and thing anonymously. If whoever it was admitted to it, that would take all the fun out of it.

 

As for the porn and harassment of underage voice actresses, I think it's creepy as hell, but there's really not much I can do about it. A problem with our fandom is that we all mostly follow a doctrine of "love and tolerance" but for the most part we can't agree on what those words mean. I've heard people interpreting them to mean everything from "don't be a bigot" to "don't feed the trolls" to "anything goes" and to the people who are into the porn, it's usually the third. Fairly common for people who complain about the porn to be accused of not being real fans, otherwise they'd "love and tolerate." Personally, I think what the clippers do is there own business, I just wish they'd keep it to themselves to avoid bringing everyone else's street rep down. As for the underage voice actresses, I don't know what to tell you. Two years ago, EQD posted a link to Sweetie Belle's VA's Let's Play of Mine craft and people started posting a whole ton of creepy be there. I emailed EQD and suggested either posting a PSA about not being a creepy a-holes or refraining from linking the underage VAs' social media accounts, but when they emailed me back they basically just said "fak it, we can't do anything".

[What a Succulent Ass]

This is the internet RJ, one of its greatest draws is the ability to "review bomb" people and thing anonymously. If whoever it was admitted to it, that would take all the fun out of it. 

I know who did it, I just don't care.

 

 

 

As for the porn and harassment of underaged voice actresses, I think it's creepy as hell, but there's really not much I can do about it. A problem with our fandom is that we all mostly follow a doctrine of "love and tolerance" but for the most part we can't agree on what those words mean. I've heard people interpreting them to mean everything from "don't be a bigot" to "don't feed the trolls" to "anything goes" and to the people who are into the porn, it's usually the third. Fairly common for people who complain about the porn to be accused of not being real fans, otherwise they'd "love and tolerate." Personally, I think what the clippers do is there own business, I just wish they'd keep it to themselves to avoid bringing everyone else's street rep down. As for the underage voice actresses, I don't know what to tell you. Two years ago, EQD posted a link to Sweetie Belle's VA's Let's Play of Mine craft and people started posting a whole ton of creepy be there. I emailed EQD and suggested either posting a PSA about not being a creepy ******* or refraining from linking the underaged VAs' social media accounts, but when they emailed me back thrley basically just said "fak it, we can't do anything".

I mean in theory, I couldn't give a damn less what people want to ****** to in their off hours jahannam is waiting; my biggest beef is adults (in specific, adult men) muscling in on what is supposed to be a safe space for little girls and demanding they have their needs catered to and generally making the fandom an unsafe environment for children. Obviously there's only so much parents and older demographics can do, but I feel like the fact that the hysteria around this show has birthed these weird-ass phenomena means that more effort needs to be put forth when it comes to sparing its intended audience alienation and abuse.