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[Cainhurst Crow]

... what were the bad elements of either those episodes? Especially Look Before You Sleep, which was pretty flawless.

Well I wouldn't say there were bad elements  in any of the episodes, including look before you sleep, compared to any of the other episodes. It felt like a standard, following the examples of a lot of the season 1 episodes.
 
Now, general critiques of those episodes...well...
 

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WHY THE **** DIDN'T THEY LEAVE FLUTTERSHY'S ASS BACK IN PONYVILLE!?!?! How many times has she either slowed down this time sensitive mission or gotten them all killed? 3-4 times if I recall. And her excuse is always simply that she "can't". I know they're friends, and I know she was needed for the plot, but at that point common senses would tell you to send her back because she's only getting in the way and doesn't want to be there in the first place. And why did celestia send them anyway? They didn't bring the elements of harmony to blast the dragon full of empathy to have it move, no. They were just left to come up with whatever would work, be it asking nicely or throwing apples at the dragon. Unless apples are somehow capable of armor piercing ballistic capabilities, I really doubt that'll work applejack. And this dragon, would have needed to have been up in that mountain for a while to have carried all that loot, with how big it is (it can be seen from ponyville) you'd think celestia would  have noticed and done something about it, be it send up the wonderbolts, sent an early envoy mission, or heck, even gone herself, to reason with the thing before it decided to take a apocalypse creating nap from it's snoring. And by god if you want to talk about flanderization, what about fluttershy? She was able to yell to the group when they weren't listening in the pilot but suddenly she can't so much as talk a decibel to her friends on something she doesn't ever drop or explain to them until they're already at the front door, presumably hours if not days behind schedule. And a leaf scared her...seriously? Leaves? The breezie episode was good by this standard because now she has a creature who can relate to how devastating leaves can be.

Don;t open that if you don't want ranting.
 
Won't get into look before you sleep, but I hope you can understand that I love this show, but I hold my expectations to what I would consider a reasonable level and don't turn a cynically critical eye to it because, at the end of the day, if I did that and took it seriously, I would have to hate this show instead of enjoy it as a reprieve from doing that constantly. It's one of the few shows that subdues that part of my mind now a days and I really don;t want it lost.

[Dominus]

I will disagree with Tommy that the travel to the Breezie dimension itseld was bad, though. Of course it was obvious toy marketing - and so was the first time we saw the Friendship Express. But it was used for world build, and I can totally get behind some world building.

That's been a big deal with Season 4. Season 3 had a nice expansion with the Crystal Empire, but it never really went beyond that point. Between Castle Mane-ia's Ancient Ruins, Three's a Crowd Desert Sections, and everything else, they've been trying persistently to cover spots we haven't seen yet. That's what bugged me too about the breezies, I'd rather have it at their hometown. It was a missed opportunity.

... what were the bad elements of either those episodes? Especially Look Before You Sleep, which was pretty flawless.

I barely remember either of those to be honest Season 1 is the one I remember the least, unfortunately.

The overall concept of Applejack being overprotective is great, fits well with both her character, her Element, and even adds more depth despite being another variation of "Applejack you worry too much".

Considering both of her parents have passed, it would've been more emotionally potent to bring that up as a stronger motive for Applejack. But yeah, it's got some clever beats in the first half.

-Insane Rant-

It was Season 1, so I'm more leniant on how they epic failed during the early days. A bad episode in Season 4 is often like a normal episode in Season 1. I gave up on the fandom after the first 3 episodes, but eventually tried again.
 

It's Not Creepy
~It's Creepy~
Nyeh.

[LPPrince]

They might revisit breezies one day.

[Derpy]

Ok so I was a real nasty anti brony and my friend tell me I obsess over it more than bronys do and im bored so I thought I might as well join but I would not be typical.

 

I listen to lots of rap and dubstep

I spam TES games and Fallout

I love trolling

 

Im sure these things add up to huge attention ******.

[ObserverStatus]

Ooooh, a Fallout fan.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Ok so I was a real nasty anti brony and my friend tell me I obsess over it more than bronys do and im bored so I thought I might as well join but I would not be typical.

 

I listen to lots of rap and dubstep

I spam TES games and Fallout

I love trolling

 

Im sure these things add up to huge attention ******.

How much do you hate ponies? As much as myself?

[Derpy]

How much do you hate ponies? As much as myself?

All I know is that Pinkie Pie is on drugs or something.

[Dominus]

There would be no way for me to have fun with this show(or any) if I made an effort to break it down to that extent.

I personally don't play Pessimistic-Critic while watching them, but some of it's too below expectations or otherwise unimpressive to not point out. Considering the episodes are all free with livestreaming and YouTube, I'm not necessarily complaining with a pitchfork and torch on the episodes. I do, however, think they have a lot of room for effort. Lauren and the rest of the team have a long history with contemporary cartoons and can do way better than they have for the last few weeks.

But I do get what you mean, though. Dissecting a 22 minute cartoon as if it were a frog can kill the allure and immersion of the show.

They might revisit breezies one day.

Very true, and that'd be a great way for them to "fix" what's been covered so far with the breezies.

Ok so I was a real nasty anti brony and my friend tell me I obsess over it more than bronys do and im bored so I thought I might as well join but I would not be typical.

Good to have ya, feel free to grab a complimentary Cider & Muffin while you're here. You don't have to feel obligated to join, but we always welcome new recruits to the MLP Team. May the Gak be with you.

All I know is that Pinkie Pie is on drugs or something.

Sounds about right. And at least according to Fallout: Equestria, there may be some truth to it. Pinkie's always going to be the insane one.

~19 Mane-y 4~

[ObserverStatus]

I love trolling

Are you familiar with this guy's videos? If not, I think you'll enjoy. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=hhQfBlthOWM

[Derpy]

Sounds about right. And at least according to Fallout: Equestria, there may be some truth to it. Pinkie's always going to be the insane one.

Then why is fluttershy a weeny?

[Derpy]

Are you familiar with this guy's videos? If not, I think you'll enjoy. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=hhQfBlthOWM

Oh my god that's me in a nutshell.

[darth_lopez]

Check it out, Kaiser Arsakes made a chart of who posts in this thread the most! Turns out the top 4 are responsible for nearly 50% of the posts.

 

 

where can i find this chart?  i want to see where i am on it

[Cainhurst Crow]

[Derpy]

Well if there even was such a thing as MLP Fallout, I would have my bigass Barret M82A 50.Cal and I would put pinkie pie down as she would be dead weight. No use dragging a druggie that would just spam all your stimpacks in the Sierra Madre.

[LPPrince]

Dom shared this with me

 

[ObserverStatus]

Well if there even was such a thing as MLP Fallout, I would have my bigass Barret M82A 50.Cal and I would put pinkie pie down as she would be dead weight. No use dragging a druggie that would just spam all your stimpacks in the Sierra Madre.

There is a MLP Fallout with it's own Sierra Madre. It's set about 250 years after the events of the TV show. I'd recommend watching the first season before trying to read it though, otherwise you might not "get it".

[LPPrince]

Since FoE is being discussed again, LilpipXVelvetRemedy OTP

[Derpy]

There is a MLP Fallout with it's own Sierra Madre. It's set about 250 years after the events of the TV show. I'd recommend watching the first season before trying to read it though, otherwise you might not "get it".

I hated the Sierra Madre. Place is hell on earth and to top it off I prepared "heist" gear only to get it all taken from me and a bomb collar instead.

[ObserverStatus]

I hated the Sierra Madre. Place is hell on earth and to top it off I prepared "heist" gear only to get it all taken from me and a bomb collar instead.

Don't worry, the MLP version is even worse.

[Derpy]

Don't worry, the MLP version is even worse.

I haven't watched MLP for almost a year as well. I don't really have a way currently as I share a Netflix account.

 

I would like to see how Flutterguy reacted to all the ghost people. Would have been quite entertaining to watch the ghosts reactions.

[ObserverStatus]

so Lightbringer

much vigilantism

wow

such a pyrrhic victory at best

very martyrdom

 

I haven't watched MLP for almost a year as well. I don't really have a way currently as I share a Netflix account.

I would like to see how Flutterguy reacted to all the ghost people. Would have been quite entertaining to watch the ghosts reactions.

It takes place roughly 250 years after the TV series, the main cast is dead.

[Derpy]

It takes place roughly 250 years after the TV series, the main cast is dead.

Oh that's unfortunate. I wanted to see the biggest weeny in TV history crap their pants.

[ObserverStatus]

Fluttershy isn't all that big of a weeny, she yelled at a dragon this one time.

[Derpy]

Fluttershy isn't all that big of a weeny, she yelled at a dragon this one time.

I yell at dragons all day in Skyrim. And plus that was the only thing she ever yelled at.

[Gravisanimi]

I hated the Sierra Madre. Place is hell on earth and to top it off I prepared "heist" gear only to get it all taken from me and a bomb collar instead.

I loved the Seirra Madre, but I've learned I'm rare with that opinion.

 

And yeah, Canterlot is a much better version of that.

 

And the Super Mutants, much better in FoE.