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[Dominus]

Well, MLP and is the leader in music, but maybe not score(yes I'm counting those separately).

Right, I should have specified Ambience is not exactly their forte, but musical numbers and the like are something they've definitely gotten a handle on. Most of the "score" tends to be generic intros or fade-to-black surprise effects. It borrows heavily from Disney to that extent. LoK has a godlike score.

MLP's story line, like Regular Show's, shows up when it needs to.

I disagree on this a bit, and it depends slightly on which episodes we're talking about. Regular Show's earlier seasons seem more like a situational comedy or a vehicle for humor. They typically boiled down to "The two screw up something in the first 2 minutes, then try to fix it in the other 8". Even the later seasons stick with that to a point. MLP is a bit more story-focused, and the extra 12 minutes(or more if they go 2-parter) can play a major part in that.

Adventure time isn't far from MLP. I think the main difference between those 2 properties is a focus on theming and morality. Adventure time does build up on lore(mainly through flashback-y episodes), but doesn't have a strong interest in tossing in more difficult questions to the audience. It does on occasion, but it isn't commonplace.

MLP, unfortunately, isn't all that creative, mostly taking old ideas and throwing them at the pony wall to see how it splatters.

Yep, and this is one of my biggest gripes, and is another thing they've borrowed from Disney. I'd argue that the later seasons are trying to stray away from the classical storytelling. The Princess Twi 2-Parter felt like a departure from that. But yeah, a lot of the earlier episodes' premises were taken directly from older TV shows/movies. Off the top of my head, MMMMystery on the Friendship Express and A Dog & Pony show were two strong examples.

If you've noticed, I haven't mentioned humor. I can't comment on that in any way given humors definition to me.

Referential humor they've got down to an art, and they do moderately well outside of that. I personally think Regular Show handles that better. While they're more considerate with decent storylining in its later episodes, it's still centered mostly around crazy random stuff to make you laugh.

Thank you for the response.

[ObserverStatus]

I don't watch any western cartoons aside from Korra, MLP, and RWBY, but check this out, Hasbro wants me to get a life.

[Gravisanimi]

I know people that would buy that just for the player pieces.

[Ravensword]

I know people that would buy that just for the player pieces.

And what do they do w/ the player pieces?

[Gravisanimi]

From the pictures they have a pretty good mold, so I'd say they'd just put them up on their shelf for decoration like anybody would for a figure or statuette, why?

[Ravensword]

I would imagine they would do something like this w/ the pieces:

[Inquisitor Recon]

I would imagine they would do something like this w/ the pieces:

Probably less fighting and more... never mind.

[ObserverStatus]

Probably less fighting and more...

Friendship?

[TheBlackBaron]

Friendship?

[LPPrince]

Well, that happened

 

[ObserverStatus]

Well, that happened

 

Eh, I would have preferred novasurge rifles, but good enough.

[ObserverStatus]

lmao, the people in the comments on that video are so myad.

[darth_lopez]

So we've talked a bit about other western cartoons in passing, but haven't delved far in how well the Almighty Pony Show™ stacks up with everyone else. Legend of Korra, Adventure Time, The Regular Show, Gravity Falls, or whatever else comes to mind. There's a lot of fish in the sea, and Hasbro may be able to learn a few tricks from their cartoonish cousins.

So the question is, would any of these be better, or worse in MLP compared to the competition?

• Humor
• Storyline
• Music
• Creativity
• Characters
• (Other? o.O)

 

I've actually had this discussion before xD it came up at a convention last year xD.

 

In anycase i think for general relaxation and enjoyment purposes MLP comes out as top dog mainly because of the creative ways the characters are expressed and the awesome music coupled with the occasionally inventive or vintage animation style. It also has a general smoothness to animation that i feel some of the other shows mentioned lack, not to mention the jokes and good ol' slapstick from time to time and the refrences. the spot MLP fails terribly is in plot. While it does manage to have complex and sometimes dynamic characters with well thought out and reasoned backgrounds, even the background characters for that matter, it definately lacks in a solidified plot of some kind. And while the show doesn't particularly suffer for it it's not exactly the amazing fuill on awesome gem it definately could be. 

 

I think korra follows closely behind MLP mainly because it might not make refrences vary often but it has an enjoyably solid plot at present despite its rocky start. The animation quality is definately up there. Music it falls short and the humor can often be hit or miss. But one aspect of the show that definately stands out is the quality of the Face Faults. There are few shows with such successful and useful facefaults. Characters and relationships have been evolving showing that the show isn't just dealing with static characters like in Adventure time and Regular show on the whole are. Instead we see a variety of dynamic characters. and the humor tends to be more... i don't want to say witty and i don't want to say tongue in cheek but it's often times more implied than it is outrightly stated and again often times through the well played facefaults. Because FaceFaults. IT also has a great and well thougth out backstory and It has even made a solid prequal sequence.

 

Next I'd Say is gravity falls just because my experience with adventure time and Regular show has been fairly subpar though i've enjoyed all the episodes of gravity falls i've watched i couldn't give a detailed break down of the show.

 

Adventure time and regular show are very similar so similar infact i'd say they should both tie for last place in this lineup. While they aren't wanting for creativity the characters are often bland 2 dimensional or even digital all on or all off They have no degrees of personal growth characters occasionally learn a lesson only to revert back later. That said the plots in both shows aren't even really plots. They're more like subplots. While the same is true of MLP the subplots in MLP work into an overarching though admittedly weak seasonaly story arch. These subplots again only seem to apply to various characters and only ever either provide background story or provide some sort of experience the characters should've developed from only to see that by the next episode in the sequence they have learned nothign and nothing. Admittedly Regular show should score higher than adventure time since mordecai at least seems to develope as a character from time to time with in his subplots. On the note of music both have had very good musical tracts though i'd say Regular show has probably had a few better, maybe at times even as good as the MLP music if not occasionally better. And adventure time has certainly had a few jingles stuck in my had though nothing particularly notable. Animation is comparatively abysmal calling back to the face faults of korra the faults in Adventure time and Regular show while they can convey emotions are often times much less interesting and much less communicative leaving a certain sense of ambiguity at times that just doesn't mesh well with most of the jokes. The humor in the shows are at acceptable levels of enjoyment however the jokes are often too easy or repeated too much to the point they actually become irritating. for me at least. Humor is kinda subjective and hard to grade objectively.

 

But that is my opinion on those shows.

 

Admittedly i think Dan Vs. should've been in the mix it is truly a loss that show was cancelled but it was on the wrong network we can only hope someone else picks it up because that was truly a funny show. Music was non-essential, plot non-existent but the humor was greath and while the characters were only 2 dimensional the jokes that were enabled off of each characters personality were well done and often times funny even if a re-harsh. It often also tried to make jokes about socially or at least popularly relevant topics which was another point in favor of the Dan side of the force. 

 

If i had to rate the shows i'd say probably:

1. MLP

2. Korra

3. Dan Vs.

4. Gravity Falls

5. Regular show

6. Adventure time

 

maybe tying adventute time and regular show at five because neither is particularly bad just simply not as good as the other options.

 

Also if anyone has seen pound puppies clarence or little pet shop those are also fairly decent cartoons. Clarence much like uncle grandpa however can be crazy however it's much more similar to ed, edd, and eddy than any other attempted knock off thus far. 

[Dominus]

In anycase i think for general relaxation and enjoyment purposes MLP comes out as top dog mainly because of the creative ways the characters are expressed and the awesome music coupled with the occasionally inventive or vintage animation style.

MLP is definitely in the feel-good category. I'd argue LoK has a certain relaxation vibe. The visual atmosphere and the soundtrack lean it towards something meditational. Naturally, the story tends to be more drama-heavy so it's not exactly rainbows and sunshine. Adventure Time is...well, it depends on the episode. Some of it heads into very dark territory, and sometimes the direct opposite, so it's a mixed bag on that one.

It also has a general smoothness to animation that i feel some of the other shows mentioned lack

This is very true, though working with flash comes with a price. The fluidity of Flash Video sets it apart, something that Foster's Home fans were made aware of as well. However, I think capturing darker/detailed stylization seems to work better in something like LoK. G1's Old-School animated Tirek is far more terrorizing than the flash-based G4.
 

 

The humor can often be hit or miss.

Why you no Bolin? ._. Yeah, it's also a mishmash in quality.

They have no degrees of personal growth characters occasionally learn a lesson only to revert back later. That said the plots in both shows aren't even really plots.

For the most part, yes. I think Regular Show's Margaret Romance Arc gave Mordecai a bit of humility and a decent learning lesson. He's not an awkward mess when trying to flirt or date a woman. In this case, CJ. Adventure Time... well, they tend to build characters with flashbacks, but they're not really developing per se.

I'm leery about MLP's Character Growth. Rarity tends to be a little less vain and a little more generous, especially when Dave Polsky's writing it(RtM, For Whom The Belle Toils). Flutters has Quasi-Character development. With Filli Vanilli, she had a chance to open up a bit but tossed it out due to "baby steps".

Twi got some meaningful development this season, particularly that first episode. Stepping out of the comfort zone and into the Commander-In-Hoof role was quite rewarding to watch.
 

I don't know. It seems like references to any dynamic changes in personality for the Mane 6 are minimal. You could argue NMM and CMC get the better side of that.
 

Admittedly i think Dan Vs. should've been in the mix.

First time I've heard of it.
 

The spot MLP fails terribly is in plot. While it does manage to have complex and sometimes dynamic characters with well thought out and reasoned backgrounds, even the background characters for that matter, it definately lacks in a solidified plot of some kind. And while the show doesn't particularly suffer for it it's not exactly the amazing fuill on awesome gem it definately could be.

Within a segmented episode, I disagree. In terms of Long-Term Story, agree full-swing.

For Season 4, they clamored how there was going to be Long-Term Arcs... but to what extent, and what effect it had on the Season was a bit underwhelming. Yes, each of the six "key" episodes were focused on testing their skills, but I wouldn't say it's a bold new take on storylining.

It's great relative to their series and I liked it a good deal, but I know they're capable of more than what's been produced. Not trying to sound butthurt, I still love what they've done. A bit like Twilight in the finale, I want moooooooore.

"And what do they do w/ the player pieces?"
Probably less fighting and more... never mind.

Dammit Recon, where's thine mind wandering?

[Ravensword]

That's how it is.

[Dominus]

Well, Let's be honest: There's a little bit of perv in every brony. High energy characters that have a focus on love, and innuendo in cartoons has been a thing for quite some time.

Shipping everywhere.

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[Ravensword]

HELLOOOOO, NURSE!

[TheBlackBaron]

Thread's been pretty toxic lately, even without the Inquisitor around.

Here, have a Book Horse.

[ObserverStatus]

Lately? I don't think it's been a bad week actually.

[Dominus]

Yep. It's a Work in Progress, but I've got to admit, it's getting better.
 
Feature of the Day

Freakin' Music

AcousicBrony & MandoPony seem to be the main ones listed in the video. I've heard a bit with LivingTombstone & SimGretina, but not much else.

Here, have a Book Horse.

Spoiler

[AutumnWitch]

[Ravensword]

Thread's been pretty toxic lately, even without the Inquisitor around.Here, have a Book Horse.

The Inquisitor is simply running containment around here. Keeping you bronies safe and sound in your utopia is not a demand of the Inquisitor. AND YOU SHOULD ALL BE GRATEFUL!!

[Dominus]

Cuppa Dirt. OH NO

[Dominus]

To those interested in food for thought and a cheap laugh, KP's been busy working on Analytic-y Videos.

The recent one is about Spike, and why he needs a bit of work in terms of character.
How cadence may have inadvertently turned twilight into the Immortal Overlord we all know and love.
Lastly... the dangers of fanshipping?

Alright, outta here till Saturday or Sunday.

[TheBlackBaron]

Boy, that's a blast from the past.