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Dear Bioware Community:

I am very excited for the release of Dragon Age: Origins next week, but I am having a hard time deciding between  the PC and PS3 versions.  Please know that I don't intend to create another PC vs. Console debate - I merely ask for your advice given my PC (laptop) system specs (i.e. what would you do?):

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T 9900 @ 3.06 GHz
OS: Vista Ultimate 32 w/ Service Pack 2 (upgrading to Windows 7 next month)
Ram: 4 GB
Video: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 @ 256 megs
128 Samsung Solid State Drive

I'm pretty sure that my video card is the weakest link here.  According to the topic posted by flem1, I should be able to run the game at Medium settings.  Does that sound about right?

Given this, do you think I should get the PC version or the PS3 version?  I know that it usually comes down to a matter of personal preference, but to be honest I equally enjoy gaming on my PC and PS3.  So it really just comes down to the graphics and the modding benefits.  How do you think the PS3 graphics will look compared to my computer's?  If the PS3 version will look considerably better, do you think I should still go with the PC version for modding benefits?

Thanks for your help!

Modifié par DaventryGnome, 31 octobre 2009 - 08:05 .


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PC version should run it fine at medium++ biggest drawback is the lack of sufficient video memory for big textures. Rest should run at max.



If you prefer mouse/keyboard over joypad get the PC, otherwise pick PS3.

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Oh yeah, it the PC matches the PS3 graphics wise you HAVE to get the PC version purely for the modding benefits.

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While I'd normally tell you to go with PC for the modding benefits.  Although it will run, your graphics card may cause some issue with smoothness/detail.. In all honesty if you enjoy PC/Console about the same, I'd suggest PS3, you'll miss out on some mods, but I think your experience of the 60+ hours of gameplay currently available will be better with the PS3. If you happen to get another computer in the next couple of years, I'm sure you'd be able to get a nice deal on DA:O at that point.. Probably around 14-19 dollars, and there would actually be a fair amount of User Made content available at that point.

The only reason I might suggest going for PC is if you were really into modding the game, or creating stories yourself. Then it might be worth it, but even then, if it were me I'd probably still go with the PS3 for the time being.

Modifié par Tiskenburdle, 31 octobre 2009 - 08:14 .


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Do you think the graphics would match up though? I just bought this computer for school and I probably won't be able to get another one for 4 years.

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Tiskenburdle, I posted my reply (above) before reading yours. Thanks for the advice. I'm not into making mods myself, but I am open to playing other people's mods. My biggest interest is in the main story though.



If anyone else agrees or disagrees or has any other opinion, please let me know! :)

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I have a newer PC (Quad Core Intel @ 3.2 Ghz, 4 gig of RAM and a GTX 295) - I also have a PS3 connected to a 55" 1080p TV. So for me, it's going to come down to getting the PC version because it's



A - Cheaper ($65 on steam for SE)

B - Modding

C - Tweaking the graphics

D - With PS3 games, you never know if you are limited to 720p or 1080p!

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If you have a HDTV then go for the PS3. Your gaming experience will be A LOT better. I only game on my PC when I have no choice and I really want a game but otherwise I despise gaming on the PC. Hell I have a 2008 PC that can easily run DAO but why would I do that to myself when I have a large HDTV, a sweet sound system and I can keep snacks and a drink near me without fearing of destroying the PC if I spill them.

Trust me, your PS3 is a far better gaming machine than any PC.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 31 octobre 2009 - 08:50 .


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DaventryGnome wrote...

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T 9900 @ 3.06 GHz
OS: Vista Ultimate 32 w/ Service Pack 2 (upgrading to Windows 7 next month)
Ram: 4 GB
Video: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 @ 256 megs


I'd say between low to medium. The two main problems are: you are running a x32 system, thus only 3gb of your memory+graphical memory will be used; your graphics card has very low dedicated memory.

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Hey Darth_Trethon, thanks for your advice, but you seem to be enjoy PS3 more than PC on all occasions. I'm trying to get a feel for how the game may run on my specific comptuer versus the PS3. I know the PS3 version is graphically inferior to a high-end PC, but what about when compared to a PC like mine?

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hey i know many of you have already answered, but i just wanted to provide some addional information:

although i wouldn't normally be interested in these games, i downloaded the PC demos for Drakensang, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Overlord 2, and Crysis. I can run the first three games maxed out, but Crysis has to be on medium to obtain acceptable framerates (Crysis has low, medium, high, ultra). i can get away with making two out of the dozen or so categories ultra-high, but more than that and the game starts to lag.

would DD: O be most comparable (system-spec/performance-wise) to Crysis or the other three games? i know no one can answer this for sure since the game's not out yet, but i would still appreciate any advice/speculation you may be able to provide. i really wish Bioware would release demos for its games haha.

EDIT: I would like to add that Crysis on medium still looks outstanding, but i'm not sure how much better the game would look if everything was ultra-high.  also, game performance often depends on how well a game was coded?  some games just run better b/c the programmers were more efficient, right?  if this is the case i guess it's really anyone's guess how DD: O will run...

Modifié par DaventryGnome, 01 novembre 2009 - 05:31 .


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More comparable to the other three games.

I can't tell you which I like better. My 360 is hooked up right next to my PC and I use my monitor to play 360 games. So, for me, it's just a matter of Mods. And I like mods. Some of the things that people came up with in NWN was insane. And I don't want to miss that for Dragon Age.

Modifié par Joel171, 01 novembre 2009 - 05:36 .


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Frankly, Bioware is typically good at trying to optimize their games. I'd go for the PC version. Without having a copy of it myself though, I can't tell you if it's safe to benchmark performance solely on Crysis, which runs on a seperate engine entirely.

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Based on the few gameplay reviews/impressions/previews/videos I've seen, and intuition, and personal experience, I cannot imagine going with the console version.

Everything I have read suggests that the actual experience of playing the game (i.e. interacting with it) is better on the PC. While BioWare did an admirable job of designing an interface appropriate for the consoles, the PC control and GUI scheme is likely more flexible and it seems that (p)reviewers have preferred it.

I have never understood the idea that playing a game in "HD" on a huge screen somehow improves the experience. The only time I have ever felt that a huge screen with fairly high resolution was better than a normal desktop-sized monitor in any way was when playing sports games. Incidentally, this is also the only genre in which I prefer console controls (I don't really play fighting games at all).

In the same vein, having played a few games (HL2, GTA:SA, and more) on both well-specced computers at very high quality and very poorly specced computers, except for the most extreme cases (playing GTA at 640x480 on a computer below minimum requirements), lowering a few settings did not impact the gameplay experience nearly as much as opting for an inferior control scheme would have.

For a game such as DA:O, unless you are a graphics junkie, or your computer is utterly incapable of running it above the minimum settings, I would aways recommend the PC version.

Modifié par Alienraptor, 01 novembre 2009 - 06:03 .


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Does anyone know if Dragon Age on PS3 is 1080p or only 720?

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Pansyrocker wrote...

Does anyone know if Dragon Age on PS3 is 1080p or only 720?


Its not a big factor. Most games, even the best looking ones, on the PS3 and 360 natively display in lower resolutions and are upscaled to 1080P.

If prefer consoles and aren't interested in Mods then the console is likely the way to go. 

These two quick looks do a good job at showing the gameplay differences between the PC and console versions.

PC: http://www.giantbomb...rigins/17-1477/

360: http://www.giantbomb...ns-360/17-1528/

Modifié par MMkain, 01 novembre 2009 - 06:26 .


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I'm still have a hard time deciding folks. Just one last point I wanted to bring up:

I've been watching a lot of Dragon Age gameplay movies recently, and I don't actually realize why the recommended system recs are as high as they are. Don't get me wrong, the game looks good, but I don't think it looks amazing (which is of course ok, since RPGs aren't about the graphics). But this point makes me wonder why the console versions needed to be toned down graphically. I mean, if PS3 can handle Uncharted 2 and MGS4 and 360 can handle Gears of War 2, why not Dragon Age?

Please don't take this to be a hostile or loaded question, I'm sincerely just wondering what the actual graphical differences are and why.

Modifié par DaventryGnome, 02 novembre 2009 - 04:08 .


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Personally Pc, I am biased though cause I am a Pc but also take into consideration the regular edition of the PC version costs 49.99 while the PS3 costs 59.99 and you can buy digital collectors pc version (includes the 7.99 dlc and many exclusive items) for 64.99 while just the dlc with the PS3 version would be 67.00 w/ out the exclusive items.

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Treton is a console troll. The devs have stated that the game runs fine on medium with 1.5gb RAM and a video card with 256mb video RAM. Not to mention... There's a PS3 graphics complaint thread already.



Don't overthink this.

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MMkain wrote...
Most games, even the best looking ones, on the PS3 and 360 natively display in lower resolutions and are upscaled to 1080P.


Which is one of many reasons that they look worse.

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Your system will run the game fine. This is not going to be a game that pushes graphics to the limit like Crysis. In addition, people already way over-estimate the specs you need to play a game comfortably. My system is similar, and I would bet money the only thing you have to do to make it run flawlessly is turn down shadows.



Get the PC version. Especially since it claims to be extremely mod based. You will only have access to addons from DLC from Bioware with console versions.



Although, hopefully the mod community here is better than NWN2's. All people made there was stupid nude mods and chainmail bikinis.

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amrose2 wrote...

Although, hopefully the mod community here is better than NWN2's. All people made there was stupid nude mods and chainmail bikinis.

The Birthday
Asphyxia
Subtlety of Thay

etc.

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Amrose2, I hope you're right. I have finally decided on the PC version!



I just wanted to thank everyone who took the time to reply and share their thoughts. This really seems to be a fantastic community :)

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Alienraptor wrote...

Based on the few gameplay reviews/impressions/previews/videos I've seen, and intuition, and personal experience, I cannot imagine going with the console version.

Everything I have read suggests that the actual experience of playing the game (i.e. interacting with it) is better on the PC. While BioWare did an admirable job of designing an interface appropriate for the consoles, the PC control and GUI scheme is likely more flexible and it seems that (p)reviewers have preferred it.

I have never understood the idea that playing a game in "HD" on a huge screen somehow improves the experience. The only time I have ever felt that a huge screen with fairly high resolution was better than a normal desktop-sized monitor in any way was when playing sports games. Incidentally, this is also the only genre in which I prefer console controls (I don't really play fighting games at all).

In the same vein, having played a few games (HL2, GTA:SA, and more) on both well-specced computers at very high quality and very poorly specced computers, except for the most extreme cases (playing GTA at 640x480 on a computer below minimum requirements), lowering a few settings did not impact the gameplay experience nearly as much as opting for an inferior control scheme would have.

For a game such as DA:O, unless you are a graphics junkie, or your computer is utterly incapable of running it above the minimum settings, I would aways recommend the PC version.


Yep, the gameplay experience appears to be better on the pc based on all anecdotal evidence I have read so far.. While I cant say I know I am pretty sure careful adjustments will probably yield decent graphics at an acceptable frame rate on your computer. The specs are half decent save the video which will require some sacrifice on detail/textures, probably going to want to lose AA, lower shadow detail, etc.