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#26
ladyofdragons

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So much of my feelings and experience have already been stated so I'll only add a few tidbits...

berelinde wrote...

Leggywillow and Surely Forth state my feelings about the romance far too eloquently to justify retyping what they already said. About the only thing I can add to it is to compare it to watching a beloved tragic movie. You know how it ends. You've seen this movie before. You ache inside as it winds down to its inevitable conclusion, and maybe you'll cry. Again. It's cathartic, I guess.


I think the amount of drama a person wants out of the entertainment is a key element. If you aren't into the drama, the mixed feelings, the compeling events that are the Anders romance then it's not for you. It's a matter of taste really. Some people don't want that stuff in their entertainment because they have enough in real life. I have drama too, but I like this variety because I know I can turn it off and walk away anytime I want. It's fiction, period.

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

In my opinion, if you don't want to romance Anders, don't romance Anders. He's not the kind of a romance you should push yourself to do, or just take for a spin. If you don't feel it, it's not FOR you.

Anders is for two kinds of Hawkes: the pragmatist who can look at all that crazy and say "yeah, I can deal with that. I've got this," or the hopeless romantic who just falls head-over-heels in love. The former will probably end up seeing Act 3 as just another hurdle, part of the package they knowingly signed on for, while our innocent romantic can end up feeling heartbroken and betrayed.

I like Anders for all the reasons Surely outlined. I'm also fascinated with Justice, and their merger. The thing they have become is awesome. Dangerous, sure, but amazing; he's a whole new form of life. I want to know about that, I want to help him understand what he is, and I want to be a hero. His hero. It's so rare that we're given a male love interest who needs rescuing, but boy does he ever.

If neither supporting someone while they burn themselves out on a worthy cause nor rescuing someone from madness in order to do science to them appeals to you, then this is not your scene. And that's fine... there are a bunch of romances in bioware games that totally don't appeal to me, either. This guy is definitely not for everyone.


A nice way to break it down. In hindsight, my mage!Hawke was a pragmatisit too. Once she came to terms with the Chantry incident, what bothered her equally or even more was the lack of trust, communication and teamwork on both their parts.

I'm also facinated by Justice. The spirits of virture are the Maker's first born... If Anders and Hawke can stabalize the Vengence issue (which I think only a pragmatic romacing Hawke can help him do that), and get Anders to stop using the word "abomination", Justice could be a very powerful symbol in their cause...

katiebour over at Tumblr has two really incredible posts on this subject if you want to read them. 

On liking Anders as a character:
http://katiebour.tum...eldmind-elleblr

On liking Anders as an LI: (INCREDIBLE READ, if you haven't read this yet, DO IT)
http://katiebour.tum...anders-fangirls

Modifié par ladyofdragons, 03 novembre 2011 - 07:09 .


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Gyrefalcon

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jamesp81 wrote...

I like Anders because I like what he initially stands for.

I
continue to like him because I don't believe he's beyond redemption, no
matter how far down the dark road he has traveled. I think it's still
possible for Anders to get a happy ending.

Take note of that BW.



  I think it is very "Les Misarables", the revolution Anders is trying to start.  Hopefully Bioware will be willing to chase that thread a little further and give us a chance to see Anders redeemed.  Trilogies are the best!  :)

Heidenreich wrote...

mmm thread necromancy


Heh, only appropriate given that Anders might need some at this rate.  ;)

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Jaulen

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Sialater wrote...

What everyone else has said, plus, there's also the small point that the romance is set up as "The love of a good person will save him."

And then... it doesn't. It completely turns that trope on its head.


This and everything SF posted.

I'm a hopeless sucker for tragic romances.....wouldn't touch him IRL with a 50 ft pole, but VR....GIMME!


Although I do get a little annoyed when he's all, "If you're with me I can't give you a normal life...blah blah blah"
My F!Hawke wants to say to him "Dude, I'm the one with the mansion, and I'm more sane than you....it will be ME trying to give you a normal life and stability, plus I'm perfectly capable of protecting myself, I don't need some man to do it for me"

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ladyofdragons

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Jaulen wrote...
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Although I do get a little annoyed when he's all, "If you're with me I can't give you a normal life...blah blah blah"
My F!Hawke wants to say to him "Dude, I'm the one with the mansion, and I'm more sane than you....it will be ME trying to give you a normal life and stability, plus I'm perfectly capable of protecting myself, I don't need some man to do it for me"


Haha, yeah when that came up I was like, "Honey, I'm not sure I even know what a normal life is like!" Maybe warrior or rogue Hawke have a shot at settling down if they really wanted to, but it's doubtful for mage!Hawke. Not anymore anyway.

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CuriousArtemis

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 I have only romanced Fenris (and I've only ever played a M!Hawke), but I did start an Anders romance a while back.  I'm taking a break from gaming for a bit to focus on work, but I look forward to getting back to it <3
Why do I love Anders ... I wouldn't say I fangirl over him because I don't fangirl over any of the male companions in either DA:O or DA2; they're just not my romantic type.  (Also, they are not real xD)

But I love Anders, love him to pieces, because he's so sweet and so determined and so utterly terribly broken.  He is an incredible character.  My heart breaks in two every time I get to that final scene, when he's sitting alone, rocking slightly back and forth, awaiting Hawke's judgment.  

Anders has suffered all of his life, just for being born.  I can't help but think of the real world implications ... I think of those who are ostracized or even killed just b/c they are born gay or lesbian, or women who are burned by acid in certain cultures just for going on dates, just for being themselves... 

Yes, Anders' situation just touches me, I suppose, and it doesn't hurt that he's a sweetheart deep down (the man's a healer, after all).