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[CroGamer002]

Seboist wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Cause it's really hard to hate Reapers since they probably doing it to survive.


Cerberus is a bunch of human patriots who want human preservation and survival in the galaxy.
Easy to love.

Fixed.

LOL! Oh wait, you're serious? Let me laugh even harder. LMAO!!!

[pablodurando]

Seboist wrote...

TIM is the greatest character in ME. I can't get enough of Cerberus!

QFT

[marshalleck]

Mesina2 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Cause it's really hard to hate Reapers since they probably doing it to survive.


Cerberus is a bunch of human patriots who want human preservation and survival in the galaxy.
Easy to love.

Fixed.

LOL! Oh wait, you're serious? Let me laugh even harder. LMAO!!!

*adds Mesina2's Shepard to the list of traitorous elements which must be eliminated for the good of the People.*

[CroGamer002]

lovgreno wrote...

Failberus agenda of self defeat and whacky experiments was overall a entertaining part of the story of the first two games. But now they are getting a bit boring. Yeah I get it writers, TIMmy can't be trusted and Cerberus are so blinded by their ideals that they sadly harms humanity more than helps it. No need to make it even more clear. Let's move on to something new in ME3.

We didn't get chance to kill anyone from Cerberus, directly.

Those who can be killed of are good people( Lazarus Cell on Normandy) or already dead( husks in Reaper IFF).

[lovgreno]

^Spoken like a true blind idealist Marshalleck.

[Avilia]

@Marshalleck - I know its OT but I love your Avatar. Makes me chuckle every time I see it.

[CroGamer002]

marshalleck wrote...

*adds Mesina2's Shepard to the list of traitorous elements which must be eliminated for the good of the People.*

Barrus, did you already forget what Garrus told you about joining Cerberus?

[marshalleck]

Mesina2 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

*adds Mesina2's Shepard to the list of traitorous elements which must be eliminated for the good of the People.*

Barrus, did you already forget what Garrus told you about joining Cerberus?

That he wished he'd joined sooner? 

[SandTrout]

Mesina2 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

*adds Mesina2's Shepard to the list of traitorous elements which must be eliminated for the good of the People.*

Barrus, did you already forget what Garrus told you about joining Cerberus?

That he wished that Shepard had joined up sooner?

Ninja'd:ph34r:

Modifié par SandTrout, 06 août 2011 - 07:55 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Mesina2 wrote...
Barrus, did you already forget what Garrus told you about joining Cerberus?

Don't question mirror universe Garrus like that or he'll cut your throat. Barrus is a badass.

Cerberus just needs a change in leadership, but TIM is too cool to kill. So I'll have him run a husk farm on some backwater planet.

[CroGamer002]

[Savber100]

 Didn't we have this thread already? I swore this topic looks familiar... 

Oh wait... social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/7902509  <_<

[lovgreno]

Mesina2 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

*adds Mesina2's Shepard to the list of traitorous elements which must be eliminated for the good of the People.*

Barrus, did you already forget what Garrus told you about joining Cerberus?

Garrus: Barrus my brother, I know you realy want to be one of the cool kids who hangs with terrorists but these guys are realy losers. I should know as I have worked for them. If it wasn't for me and Shepards gang they would have messed up absolutely everything.

[TobyHasEyes]

Seboist wrote...

DarkDragon777 wrote...

Maybe....*gasp* Cerberus is essential to the plot....*gasp* !

They weren't in ME1. They were a completely optional minor enemy that had zero impact on the story. They weren't even anything special, just another Exogeni or Binary Helix.

Which makes it all the more hilarious that some are so butthurt over working for them in ME2.

 Feel the "butthurt" when you are forced to fight them and possibly destroy them in ME3

[Dean_the_Young]

MajesticJazz wrote...

I have been gone since before E3 as I want to avoid spoilers. I am still doing that but I decided to post this thread to see what people think.

Think about it, say you NEVER read ME: Revelations and played Mass Effect 1.

Instead you started out by reading ME: Acension, reading those Liara Comics, play ME2, read ME: Retribution, and now 40% of your enemies would be Cerberus.....plus the latest ME novel will feature Kahlee/Anderson going against Cerberus.

With that, you're main villian throughout ME has been Cerberus, not the Reapers. Yes, you may have "heard" of them in a few mentions here and there, but for the most part, Cerberus has been your main protagonist.

This isn't a complaint in any way, I am just curious to see how others feel about Cerberus in terms of who has had the main role of "villian" throughout this trilogy.

Except Cerberus hasn't had the main role of 'villain' throughout the trilogy, and selective interpretation of the series and their still unknown reasons in ME3 is just looking for confirmation bias.

The Trilogy can only refer to three games: ME1, in which Cerberus was neither antagonists or even necessarily villains given that their opposition to Shepard was very much in a 'defend ourselves from the space marines attacking us', ME2, in which Cerberus was our primary benefactor, and ME3, with which we don't know yet and Cerberus groundlings give us someone to shoot at besides, you know, the Reapers who are the real villains. And since Mass Effect is a tactical shooter and not a 'fire at the super-advanced space ships with your assault rifle' sort of game...

In ME1, Cerberus was a minor opponent at most. In ME2, a significant benefactor. We do not know its role in ME3, though nothing but fan-wishing has implied that it's going to overshadow, you know, the Reapers.

What 'the Trilogy' does not refer to is side material like the books and comics. And if you want to go on the basis of them, you might as well as 'has the Mass Effect side material been hijacked by Anderson and Sanders and the Graysons?' Because those four have even greater prevalence and importance in the side stories, regardless of whether you feel Cerberus is the villain in those stories (in Retribution, for example, Cerberus's only act is one of revenge against Grayson, who works for a crimelord and murderer: it's Anderson and Sanders who instigate the critical events that let Reaper-Grayson loose and become a real danger).

That the sidestory writers stick with Anderson, Sanders, the Graysons, and Cerberus rather than choose new persons and new groups is a stylistic choice, not a hijacking by any of the parties in particular.

[Someone With Mass]

Compared to Saren, TIM was the most boring character in Mass Effect, because all he does is sitting in that chair and smokes all day, while if Saren wanted something out of the way, he made sure of it personally.

Not to mention that I think TIM's goals are outright retarded.

Even Harbinger was a better antagonist, because at least he did something else than sitting in a chair all day and ordered people around.

TIM just reeks cliched criminal boss, but hasn't earned an ounce of it yet.

And yes. Cerberus is getting WAY too much attention in something they shouldn't even be a part of to begin with. It's not Cerberus Effect.

[Dean_the_Young]

lovgreno wrote...

Failberus agenda of self defeat and whacky experiments was overall a entertaining part of the story of the first two games. But now they are getting a bit boring. Yeah I get it writers, TIMmy can't be trusted and Cerberus are so blinded by their ideals that they sadly harms humanity more than helps it. No need to make it even more clear. Let's move on to something new in ME3.

I dunno how much weight I'd put on this. After all, at least they can spell 'Cerberus': if you can't even do that, what sort of position are you in to judge competence? 

[Beerfish]

Cereberus plays a very important role and keeps the player guessing thoughout the series. Much better to have a number of possible villains than just one .

[eternalnightmare13]

TIM and Cerberus are great, because they stradle the line between good/bad. They're human so I can relate/understand their motivations, flaws, and etc.

It's difficult to comprehend or relate to an ancient omnipotent (seemingly) robo-Ccthulhu coming from ''dark'' space to 'reap' all organic life. I guess their intergalatic farmers?

Modifié par eternalnightmare13, 06 août 2011 - 01:13 .

[LilyasAvalon]

Cerberus is certainly INTERESTING but I'd like to see something else brought into plot too.

I wouldn't even be that interested in Cerberus if it wasn't for TIM and his cybernetic eyes. @_@ Shiny....

[Nozybidaj]

Cerberus was a lot cooler when they were a secret shadowy organization of mad scientists. And yes, it would be have great for ME2 to have actually been about the Reapers.

[Sebby]

marshalleck wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Cause it's really hard to hate Reapers since they probably doing it to survive.


Cerberus is a bunch of human patriots who want human preservation and survival in the galaxy.
Easy to love.

Fixed.

LOL! Oh wait, you're serious? Let me laugh even harder. LMAO!!!

*adds Mesina2's Shepard to the list of traitorous elements which must be eliminated for the good of the People.*

The day of the rope can't come soon enough for these traitors my Cerberus blood brother.

[Sebby]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Cerberus is certainly INTERESTING but I'd like to see something else brought into plot too.

I wouldn't even be that interested in Cerberus if it wasn't for TIM and his cybernetic eyes. @_@ Shiny....

Yeah, women can't resist the boss' eyes. It's no wonder he macks as hard as he does...

[Phaedon]

Conrad Verner hijacked it.