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[Siven80]

Is it that hard to serach for the latest thread about this subject that comes up seemingly everyday rather than starting a new one?

Oh, and voiced all day.

Modifié par Siven80, 06 août 2011 - 05:14 .

[Addai]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Depends on the PC.

Either silent for PCs leaning towards first person. Or voiced for set characters. I would say no more PCs like Shepard and Hawke that stand in the middle, but I do not see Bioware dropping them.

Agreed- since they're not going to do a silent protagonist, I would prefer they go all the way and do a set character, rather than try to keep an open protagonist but limit it so much that nothing feels satisfactory.

Modifié par Addai67, 06 août 2011 - 06:35 .

[Zjarcal]

I strongly prefer voiced. I wasn't bothered while playing DAO because I had never experienced a voiced protagonist in an RPG. Once I played both ME games and DA2, going back to being a silent husk in DAO was just too jarring for me (and painful since I would really love for my warden to actually speak and emote).

Luckily, Bioware has already confirmed DA3 will have a voiced protagonist. I'm really happy about that.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 06 août 2011 - 06:40 .

[axl99]

For me it's a bit of a consistency issue if everyone's talking but me.

If there's going to be a silent protagonist, then it follows that everyone else should be silent as well.

[Brockololly]

Addai67 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Depends on the PC.

Either silent for PCs leaning towards first person. Or voiced for set characters. I would say no more PCs like Shepard and Hawke that stand in the middle, but I do not see Bioware dropping them.

Agreed- since they're not going to do a silent protagonist, I would prefer they go all the way and do a set character, rather than try to keep an open protagonist but limit it so much that nothing feels satisfactory.

Double agreed.

I have no issue with the likes of Geralt or Adam Jensen. The Warden and Bhaalspawn are fine. But the illusion of trying to give you choice in Hawke or Shep just doesn't work the way they're doing things.

[MerinTB]

Brockololly wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Depends on the PC.

Either silent for PCs leaning towards first person. Or voiced for set characters. I would say no more PCs like Shepard and Hawke that stand in the middle, but I do not see Bioware dropping them.

Agreed- since they're not going to do a silent protagonist, I would prefer they go all the way and do a set character, rather than try to keep an open protagonist but limit it so much that nothing feels satisfactory.

Double agreed.

I have no issue with the likes of Geralt or Adam Jensen. The Warden and Bhaalspawn are fine. But the illusion of trying to give you choice in Hawke or Shep just doesn't work the way they're doing things.

Ditto.

This middle ground is annoying as heck.

Shepard is not my Shepard.  Hawke is not my Hawke.  I'd RATHER make my own character, but if it's not my character than please stop half-way pretending it is to try and give me some small consolation. 
I'd rather the Courier I make in New Vegas than Hawke, but I'd also rather play Master Chief than Shepard.  If that makes sense.

[TEWR]

Voiced. I think it works much better than silent. Which isn't to say that silent protagonists are horrible. They can be roleplayed very well. But so can voiced protagonists, especially if you can customize their look.

[Alex Kershaw]

I voted silent

[Tirfan]

MerinTB wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Depends on the PC.

Either silent for PCs leaning towards first person. Or voiced for set characters. I would say no more PCs like Shepard and Hawke that stand in the middle, but I do not see Bioware dropping them.

Agreed- since they're not going to do a silent protagonist, I would prefer they go all the way and do a set character, rather than try to keep an open protagonist but limit it so much that nothing feels satisfactory.

Double agreed.

I have no issue with the likes of Geralt or Adam Jensen. The Warden and Bhaalspawn are fine. But the illusion of trying to give you choice in Hawke or Shep just doesn't work the way they're doing things.

Ditto.

This middle ground is annoying as heck.

Shepard is not my Shepard.  Hawke is not my Hawke.  I'd RATHER make my own character, but if it's not my character than please stop half-way pretending it is to try and give me some small consolation. 
I'd rather the Courier I make in New Vegas than Hawke, but I'd also rather play Master Chief than Shepard.  If that makes sense.

Agreed. Middle-ground just doesn't work.

[Barbarossa2010]

Silent worked better for me in DA than voiced; so I voted silent. However, for games with a more set character, and less emphasis on player agency, voicing them works if done well. Really liked Michael Thorton in Alpha Protocol. Didn't care for Hawke, even though his voice actor was pretty good.

[KotorEffect3]

voiced protagainists simply have more personality so voiced

[Serpieri Nei]

Prefer Silent - Especially if the reason we got such a mediocre game is due to that.

[Jamie_edmo]

Coming off of DA2 I prefer silent, but when done right voiced protagonists can be better then silent, i just didnt take to Hawke

[dragonfire100]

I pefer voiced.

[Babli]

Silent. More...far more options with that.

[Exile22]

Have to go with Silent - we lost way to much in DA2.

[Cutlass Jack]

Brockololly wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Depends on the PC.

Either silent for PCs leaning towards first person. Or voiced for set characters. I would say no more PCs like Shepard and Hawke that stand in the middle, but I do not see Bioware dropping them.

Agreed- since they're not going to do a silent protagonist, I would prefer they go all the way and do a set character, rather than try to keep an open protagonist but limit it so much that nothing feels satisfactory.

Double agreed.

I have no issue with the likes of Geralt or Adam Jensen. The Warden and Bhaalspawn are fine. But the illusion of trying to give you choice in Hawke or Shep just doesn't work the way they're doing things.

I disagree with every fibre of my being. No forced protaganist please. I can't stand Geralt, hence I can't enjoy Witcher. If I want to see a cinematic story about someone else's character, I'll just watch a movie. In a Role playing game, creating a character is a must. Otherwise its just an action game. I'll pass.

They already put in the default Garret Hawke & John Shepard anyways for those who want that.

[txgoldrush]

VOICED...although Bioware really needs to step up the male protagonist voice acting. The females completely dominate in that area. One thing people fail to mention as a strength for voiced protags is not even vocal, its the facial expressions and shows of emotion, and the female Hawke is especially great when it comes to this.

Hawke is even better than Shepard in many ways. She is less stilted and free from iany Paragon and Renegade system. In fact, Hawke's aggressive tone is far far far more subtle than Shepards and in the way you can even play a very pure hearted aggressive character for the most part who doesn't tolerate corruption and brutality, and toughens people up around her. Also, unlike ME and ME2, choices are not tied to personality, hence choice icons instead of personality icons. Dailogue wheels also allow for less literal and more natural and subtle language.

The only real weakness is the sarcastic option, which is new in the first place and should be worked on to make it more subtle and less forced.

Silent protagonists suck in the age of voice acting (except for Bethesda who doesn't use the "cinematic" style). Its a tecnical limitation. The Warden really sucks because all he does is stand there and stare, showing no emotion whatsoever and the script has to be more literal without the wheel. Going back to JE, KOTOR and KOTOR II, it would have been a far better experience if those protagonists were voiced.

[erynnar]

Silent, I didn't care much for Hawke, never could get the feel that she was supposed to be a role I was playing, so much as she was a role BioWare played and I got to play director. I prefer to be actor and director. The in the ground as someone else said doesn't work.

I, like Cutlass Jack don't want another Geralt, but if BioWare is going to take so much of the role away from me, then make a more fully formed character. Hawke was bland and unappealing.

Modifié par erynnar, 06 août 2011 - 09:18 .

[erichtho]

I imagine there could be a logically possible world where a voiced protagonist would fit the Bioware-fantasy genre, but as of now I'm doubtful.

So my voice goes to the silent option.

Modifié par erichtho, 06 août 2011 - 09:21 .

[KotorEffect3]

Serpieri Nei wrote...

Prefer Silent - Especially if the reason we got such a mediocre game is due to that.

Um a voiced protaganist is not why there were recycled dungeons, unsatisfying ending, and controversial changes to art direction.  The Mass Effect series has been doing just fine with a voiced protaginist.  Now if you were to argue that a voiced protaginist limits roleplaying because it is most likely one of the main reasons we could only play as a human than I get it but you can't blame the rest of the game's faults on a voiced protaginist.

[Serpieri Nei]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Serpieri Nei wrote...

Prefer Silent - Especially if the reason we got such a mediocre game is due to that.

Um a voiced protaganist is not why there were recycled dungeons, unsatisfying ending, and controversial changes to art direction.  The Mass Effect series has been doing just fine with a voiced protaginist.  Now if you were to argue that a voiced protaginist limits roleplaying because it is most likely one of the main reasons we could only play as a human than I get it but you can't blame the rest of the game's faults on a voiced protaginist.

You misunderstood the statement. You’re also basing your post on what you believe to be DA2's shortcomings. And if you want to compare ME to Origins, then maybe you should create a post on it and we can all post sales data, reception, scores, reviews, etc. 

Modifié par Serpieri Nei, 06 août 2011 - 09:33 .

[KotorEffect3]

Serpieri Nei wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Serpieri Nei wrote...

Prefer Silent - Especially if the reason we got such a mediocre game is due to that.

Um a voiced protaganist is not why there were recycled dungeons, unsatisfying ending, and controversial changes to art direction.  The Mass Effect series has been doing just fine with a voiced protaginist.  Now if you were to argue that a voiced protaginist limits roleplaying because it is most likely one of the main reasons we could only play as a human than I get it but you can't blame the rest of the game's faults on a voiced protaginist.

You misunderstood the statement. You’re also basing your post on what you believe to be DA2's shortcomings. And if you want to compare ME to Origins, then maybe you should create a post on it and we can all post sales data, reception, scores, reviews, etc. 

I am not comparing series I am just pointing out that having a voiced protaginist doesn't necessarily make or break a series as Mass Effect has had a voiced protaginist and it hasn't effected that series in a negative way so why should it effect DA in a negative way?  I love both series but I understand they are both different and they should be I am not saying one is better than the other I am just pointing out that a voiced protaganist has worked out fine in the one and it was not the reason why there is controversy with the other.  As far as DA 2's shortcomings are concerned why I listed the ones I did is because that is the general consensus I seem to find with most complaints (I know the aren't always the same with everyone but those are the ones most people seem to have).  I know I am generalising a bit but I think I am with good reason.  I actualy like DA2 but some of those shortcomings really do need to be addressed in their next game.