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[Jonp382]

Par Vollen. I would ecstatic if DA3 happened in the Qunari homeland. Tevinter Imperium would be great too though.

[Anyroad2]

I believe well be going to Orlais in DA3... or at least in a DA2 Expansion. Weve been nudged into thinking that a few times over the course of DA2. Sandal going there, relations with Ferelden and Orlais not being so great because inner troubles, and I'm guessing that the Seekers are based there.

As far as what I'd like to see next (or following Orlais) would be the Anderfells. Theres bound to be truck loads of Warden / First Blight lore there. Id like to have the possibility to run into the First Warden as well.

Following Anderfells, Tevinter for sure. Its supposed to be a very different place because of how the Chantry operates there and the magisters. A game taking place there is sure to deal with the Qunari. Also, that makes it possible that well run into the only two companions not seen after DAO... Sten and Shale.

[naledgeborn]

Tevinter. But I'm willing to wait until Dragon Age 5 for it. I want game tech to be crazy when they start making Tevinter.

[Jamie_edmo]

Although it looks like DA3 will be set in Orlais I would most like to go to the Tevinter Imperium, it sounds the most interesting place to visit especially with the mage war and all that

[esper]

I honestly want to see all the contries exepct Antiva - and Antiva is only because they way assasian enemies works right now, I don't want to fight a whole country full of them.
But definitely Tevinter, Seheron or Rivain just because I think these three are really different.

[NedPepper]

I think now that we kind of know we're heading to Orlais, I'll check that one off the list.

After that: Par Vollen. I want to see the whole of Qunari culture. And hang out with Sten again.
And the Anderfels. Sounds like a harsh place. I imagine kind of like the Wild west with barren landscapes. And Nevarra seems interesting to me.

My thing with  Tevinter  is that I want a break from crazy mages. Right now, it's at the bottom of my list.

Modifié par nedpepper, 08 août 2011 - 10:37 .

[Vit246]

I take it back. With the new directions that Bioware seems to have in mind for DA, Tevinter is not a good idea now. I suspect Bioware would portray this magical nation in the most biased and unfair and worst light possible. A Black and White view instead of relative shades of Gray. I afraid to give out ideas for fear of jinxing Tevinter.

[Sepewrath]

Vit246 wrote...

I take it back. With the new directions that Bioware seems to have in mind for DA, Tevinter is not a good idea now. I suspect Bioware would portray this magical nation in the most biased and unfair and worst light possible. A Black and White view instead of relative shades of Gray. I afraid to give out ideas for fear of jinxing Tevinter.

Actually it would be a great time to see Tevinter, to show that its not as evil as everyone makes it out to be. Though there would be a plenty of evil to go around. And I don't what you mean about a direction, DA2 moved away from the black and white stylings of Origins.

Anyway, I would like to see Tevinter or Orlais, though Rivain wouldn't be bad, seeing that cross section of races all coexisting and no Chantry, that would be interesting. Also its right next to Antiva, could even have maybe an area or two from there.

[G00N3R7883]

Par Vollen would be interesting, if there was a conflict with the Qunari that lasted more than about 5 minutes. Orlais has potential for some storylines involving political scheming and betrayal which seem to resonate with me.

[0x30A88]

Orlais and Tevinter seems likely if they're going to conteniue this mage-templar war from a dfferent perspective. If that's resolved in the expansion, then I would still want to see Tevinter and/or Orlais from a new perspective.

[Augustei]

Gabey5 wrote...

Possible Locations

Anderfels
Tevinter Imperium
Seheron
Par Vollen
Rivain
Orlais
Nevarra
Antiva
More of the Free Marches
The Donarks
The Dales
The Tirashan

which do you want the next DA to take place in?

Tevinter or Rivain.. Since they are so different than the rest of thedas.. So are Seheron and Par Vollen but their Qunari dominance seems a restriction in a way.. and they seem distant from where the action is currently happening

[Vit246]

Sepewrath wrote...

Vit246 wrote...

I take it back. With the new directions that Bioware seems to have in mind for DA, Tevinter is not a good idea now. I suspect Bioware would portray this magical nation in the most biased and unfair and worst light possible. A Black and White view instead of relative shades of Gray. I afraid to give out ideas for fear of jinxing Tevinter.

Actually it would be a great time to see Tevinter, to show that its not as evil as everyone makes it out to be. Though there would be a plenty of evil to go around. And I don't what you mean about a direction, DA2 moved away from the black and white stylings of Origins.

Anyway, I would like to see Tevinter or Orlais, though Rivain wouldn't be bad, seeing that cross section of races all coexisting and no Chantry, that would be interesting. Also its right next to Antiva, could even have maybe an area or two from there.

Because Bioware (and especially David Gaider) now has an agenda against mages and pro-mage people now. In DA2 they made nearly every mage into an insane blood mage or abimination or evil demon summoner. I'm afraid for Tevinter because Bioware (and especially David Gaider) probably will show it as the most evil nation ever as everyone makes it out to be on a black and white scale just because of mages and magic .

Modifié par Vit246, 09 août 2011 - 08:19 .

[Big_Chief]

Nevarra, oddly enough. We haven't heard much of it, but what we have heard sounds neat. Also the Imperium, because it sounds bananas, Par Vollen, because so far I've loved anything to do with the Qunari (also, I still want to meet those Qunari females we saw in concept art), and Orlais, because I like the sound of all the political intrigue and backstabbing.

[Icinix]

Tevinter.

I think playing a whole game through Orlais would cause me to go bonkers. That said, I wouldn't mind a game going more than just one country, DA3 cover a few different territories would be interesting.

Particularly if they ran with the time idea and decisions you made in Orlais in the first half, had an affect on where you went in the second or some such. But thats getting ahead of myself - and will probably cue people crying foul words at me for thinking games should be ambitious.

[Icy Magebane]

I still want to see Antiva more than anywhere else, even if it's highly unlikely.

[schalafi]

I am curious about Ferelden 10 years after the blight, and wouldn't mind going back there for a quick look. I don't think I'd like the whole game played there, I wouldn't mind seeing some place that had no Chantry, and no Circle.

[phaonica]

My vote would be for Tevinter or KalShirok. Did Bodahn say they were permanently relocating to Orlais? He might just swing through there on his way to somewhere else.

[Sepewrath]

Vit246 wrote...
Because Bioware (and especially David Gaider) now has an agenda against mages and pro-mage people now. In DA2 they made nearly every mage into an insane blood mage or abimination or evil demon summoner. I'm afraid for Tevinter because Bioware (and especially David Gaider) probably will show it as the most evil nation ever as everyone makes it out to be on a black and white scale just because of mages and magic .

Almost every mage you saw in Origins was a blood mage or evil, so what, that's a video game. We want to fight mages, not just look at them picking flowers. Are we to assume that every Rogue in the world will be presented as evil, since we fight so many evil rogues? Just because there are enemies to fight, doesn't mean they are trying to turn people against any particular group.

First off, as you can see a lot of people around here are down on blood magic and support the Circle system. But the simple fact is, is people are going to more often than not, root for the downtrodden; to try and make Tevinter this super evil society would be pointless, because its not going to change that reality, they are well aware of how futile that be. Especially since Tevinter is already painted as evil within the universe and people are still team Mage, If they had some kind of anti magic thing going, it would be wasted on Tevinter. But since they aren't doing that, I think Tevinter would be great to show that its NOT as evil as people make it out to be and that its NOT so black and white.

[Addai]

Vit246 wrote...
Because Bioware (and especially David Gaider) now has an agenda against mages and pro-mage people now. In DA2 they made nearly every mage into an insane blood mage or abimination or evil demon summoner. I'm afraid for Tevinter because Bioware (and especially David Gaider) probably will show it as the most evil nation ever as everyone makes it out to be on a black and white scale just because of mages and magic .

lolwut  Never underestimate the forum's ability to twist developers' words.  What he was talking about was a general inclination to side with the underdog and personal freedom, without really considering the other side.  I agree that there were too many batty mages in Kirkwall, but that's because the whole game was ramped up in melodrama.  However it's not wrong for a writer to want to challenge people's comfortable assumptions and make them see issues in grey terms.  That's what you should want out of a good RPG- choices that make you think, that are complex, and not just "aww those poor poor mages."

Modifié par Addai67, 09 août 2011 - 10:21 .

[Sepewrath]

I'm not that interested in Par Vollen, while the island setting would an interesting change of pace for the series. It's mostly Qunari there and their static way of living, I don't think that would be very interesting over the course of an entire game. I would rather just go to Rivain and see their settlement there.

[Drone696]

Addai67 wrote...

Vit246 wrote...
Because Bioware (and especially David Gaider) now has an agenda against mages and pro-mage people now. In DA2 they made nearly every mage into an insane blood mage or abimination or evil demon summoner. I'm afraid for Tevinter because Bioware (and especially David Gaider) probably will show it as the most evil nation ever as everyone makes it out to be on a black and white scale just because of mages and magic .

lolwut  Never underestimate the forum's ability to twist developers' words.  What he was talking about was a general inclination to side with the underdog and personal freedom, without really considering the other side.  I agree that there were too many batty mages in Kirkwall, but that's because the whole game was ramped up in melodrama.  However it's not wrong for a writer to want to challenge people's comfortable assumptions and make them see issues in grey terms.  That's what you should want out of a good RPG- choices that make you think, that are complex, and not just "aww those poor poor mages."

I have to agree with Vit 246 to a point. I don't think there's an anti - mage agenda, but I'm a little worried they might abandon the "Shades of Grey" road they established in DAO and take the "good and evil" route. That includes not only mages, but also Chantry teachings and actions.

[Sepewrath]

Where is this shades of grey stuff in Origins, I must have missed that part. The Darkspawn were a clear evil enemy, as what Loghain, who you had no reason to spare, unless you were doing some serious meta gaming.

Then you have the treaty missions, the Dalish only have one choice that made sense, Redcliffe only had one choice that made sense and the Circle situation was way more pro mage than what was done in DA2. You had no reason to go through with that annulment, the closest thing to shades of gray was choosing between Bhelen and Harrowmont and even then, Bhelen was played up as the evil one. If anything they had moved away from that "This is right, everything is else is wrong" design.

[Drone696]

@Sepewrath: I wasn't thinking so much about choices in game, more about the lore and world in general.

[maxernst]

Sepewrath wrote...

Vit246 wrote...
Because Bioware (and especially David Gaider) now has an agenda against mages and pro-mage people now. In DA2 they made nearly every mage into an insane blood mage or abimination or evil demon summoner. I'm afraid for Tevinter because Bioware (and especially David Gaider) probably will show it as the most evil nation ever as everyone makes it out to be on a black and white scale just because of mages and magic .

Almost every mage you saw in Origins was a blood mage or evil, so what, that's a video game. We want to fight mages, not just look at them picking flowers. Are we to assume that every Rogue in the world will be presented as evil, since we fight so many evil rogues? Just because there are enemies to fight, doesn't mean they are trying to turn people against any particular group.

First off, as you can see a lot of people around here are down on blood magic and support the Circle system. But the simple fact is, is people are going to more often than not, root for the downtrodden; to try and make Tevinter this super evil society would be pointless, because its not going to change that reality, they are well aware of how futile that be. Especially since Tevinter is already painted as evil within the universe and people are still team Mage, If they had some kind of anti magic thing going, it would be wasted on Tevinter. But since they aren't doing that, I think Tevinter would be great to show that its NOT as evil as people make it out to be and that its NOT so black and white.

My expectation of Tevinter would be that it would resemble the society that I assume it is based on--ancient Rome/Byzantium.   There were certainly many respects in which living in ancient Rome would be more pleasant than medieval Europe, mostly because its infrastructure (roads, waterworks, law enforcement) etc were vastly superior...but there's no getting around the fact that that infrastructure was built on the backs of slaves.  And while some of those slaves were valued household servants (scribes, tutors, skilled tradesmen) who were probably quite well treated, many were not...read Pliny's accounts of the health of slaves who worked in the lead and mercury mines for examples.  I don't doubt that life might be more pleasant for the average free person in Tevinter than in Ferelden or Orlais.  And even slaves can probably depend on having food and shelter, though their lives are not their own...if our own middle ages are anything to go by, in years when crops fail, starvation is likely a serious risk for the peasant farmers that make up the bulk of the poulation.