Samara Romance
#1
Posté 07 août 2011 - 06:02
#2
Posté 07 août 2011 - 06:08
#3
Posté 07 août 2011 - 06:10
I also kind of dig that she's immune to Shep's charms.
#4
Posté 07 août 2011 - 06:12
#5
Posté 07 août 2011 - 12:10
#6
Posté 07 août 2011 - 08:26
#7
Posté 07 août 2011 - 09:01
#8
Posté 07 août 2011 - 10:09
Well it wouldn't be a retcon, people throw that word around way too much. But I would agree that she should just remain a non romance option, it was done very well.Destroy Raiden wrote...
She shouldn't be romanceable she already stated her view on the subject if she shows up wanting shep in 3 she's been retconed same goes for Mordin.
#9
Posté 07 août 2011 - 10:46
mauro2222 wrote...
"Don´t pursue this please..." I was about to cry when she said that, it hurts her incredibly.
I know! I hope she changes her mind in ME3.....
#10
Posté 07 août 2011 - 11:20
#11
Posté 10 août 2011 - 12:43
i tend to like the asari (hell - call me crazy but good looking aliens get to me in any science fiction i have watched or read (i star wars i love twi'leks for example))
so of course i liked to have her on my team - and would have loved to have her as a romance option, even more because i could not get liara back (at least not really...shadow broker was nice, but it was nothing tangible IMHO)....so yes, please make her available in mass effect 3 (hell i would have liked a lot more options in ME2 - like: kasumi, Dr. Chakwas, the female engineer....i might have loved it to have been able to have flings on the side, too....some might say that this is wrong, but i am very open minded about sex - i do not confuse sex with love or see the necessity to be in love to have sex, even more, we are in the future and i am sure that this will be seen more openly by that time)
so my few cents
greetings LAX
#12
Posté 10 août 2011 - 02:26
Sepewrath wrote...
Well it wouldn't be a retcon, people throw that word around way too much. But I would agree that she should just remain a non romance option, it was done very well.Destroy Raiden wrote...
She shouldn't be romanceable she already stated her view on the subject if she shows up wanting shep in 3 she's been retconed same goes for Mordin.
static character = consistent character
dynamic character = retconned
#13
Guest_yorkj86_*
Posté 10 août 2011 - 02:52
Guest_yorkj86_*
There's a bit of nuance involved here.
#14
Posté 10 août 2011 - 03:00
yorkj86 wrote...
Samara wanting to jump Shepard's bones = character assassination
There's a bit of nuance involved here.
Agreed. I think it could be well done, though. But it won't happen...Hell I wonder if she'll get more than a passing cameo.
Still, I keep a glimmer of hope and support
I'd be happy to have her as a playable character for 1 mission.
Modifié par ForTheWynne, 10 août 2011 - 03:09 .
#15
Posté 10 août 2011 - 03:13
If Samara truly meant everything she said in ME2 at 100% strength, then nothing will happen between Samara and Shepard, and I respect that. I hope she will find fulfillment.
If, on the other hand--and I find this to be incredibly likely under the circumstances--Samara deep down longs to feel love again, longs to have children who could go on to have children of their own... then I would love for her to find happiness with Shepard or even with someone else.
I really do think that deep down, Samara is mostly afraid to live through the heartbreak of hoping for so long, only to find out that she has yet again borne a child doomed to seclusion and sterility. I cannot blame her for that, but I believe that with a non-asari partner, she stands a chance of having a child that will not be an Ardat-Yakshi. I would be so happy to see her life's dashed hopes redeemed.
#16
Posté 10 août 2011 - 03:31
She is in her Matron stage - yet I believe even Matrons can have children. I might have to check the lore, but I doubt the lore has that high a detail level as of yet.
Since their offspring would be non-pureblood (obviously), there should be no Ardat-Yakshi. Since their ages are largely offset it is likely that they will be reaching end of life (assuming old age) at around the same time. They could make it work.
#17
Posté 10 août 2011 - 03:33
#18
Posté 10 août 2011 - 03:36
101ezylonhxeT wrote...
If your romancing liara and somewhat romance samara does she say anything about it in lair of the shadow broker?
Nope. Liara does not comment on either Samara or Kelly.
#19
Guest_yorkj86_*
Posté 10 août 2011 - 04:32
Guest_yorkj86_*
Wynne wrote...
One thing is not entirely clear about Samara which leaves room for an ME3 romance.
If Samara truly meant everything she said in ME2 at 100% strength, then nothing will happen between Samara and Shepard, and I respect that. I hope she will find fulfillment.
If, on the other hand--and I find this to be incredibly likely under the circumstances--Samara deep down longs to feel love again, longs to have children who could go on to have children of their own... then I would love for her to find happiness with Shepard or even with someone else.
I really do think that deep down, Samara is mostly afraid to live through the heartbreak of hoping for so long, only to find out that she has yet again borne a child doomed to seclusion and sterility. I cannot blame her for that, but I believe that with a non-asari partner, she stands a chance of having a child that will not be an Ardat-Yakshi. I would be so happy to see her life's dashed hopes redeemed.
They could just not have children. Sterile couples, or couples where one partner is sterile, don't need to have children to be romantically "complete." Also, adoption.
#20
Posté 10 août 2011 - 04:35
that forbidden fruit that you want but cant have.
its cool that they have that build up and then shepard gets shutdown. makes things seem more believable that shepard cant get any piece of ass he/she wants lol
#21
Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:14
I get shutdown in real life my Shep has better game than me.Clonedzero wrote...
i like that she's just out of reach.
that forbidden fruit that you want but cant have.
its cool that they have that build up and then shepard gets shutdown. makes things seem more believable that shepard cant get any piece of ass he/she wants lol
#22
Posté 10 août 2011 - 10:27
Thank you.Tonymac wrote...
Very nice point, Wynne.
She is in
her Matron stage - yet I believe even Matrons can have children. I
might have to check the lore, but I doubt the lore has that high a
detail level as of yet.
Since their offspring would be
non-pureblood (obviously), there should be no Ardat-Yakshi. Since their
ages are largely offset it is likely that they will be reaching end of
life (assuming old age) at around the same time. They could make it
work.
I have been wondering lately what a truly old asari is like--we've only seen Benezia, Aethyta, and Samara so far, but none of them seems the least bit hunchbacked or weakened/wearied by the years. They have only the very faintest hint of wrinkles if you squint really hard. I wonder what it's like for them when they die; whether they simply pass on unexpectedly or just slowly turn more and more weary. Asari are all so vital; it's hard to imagine one succumbing to age and dying.
For this reason, I would think that Matriarchs can have children, too, up to a certain point. It just seems to make sense for them as a species. But even if she couldn't, a relationship could still happen; it really depends on whether she longs to feel that bond with someone again.
I agree wholeheartedly--in general. However, in Samara's specific case, she tried three times. She could have allowed her mate to bear the children if she were ambivalent, but it's clear she wanted to have that bond--she wanted to carry daughters of her own. I think that Samara in particular longs to have some part of her carry on even after she dies, and nearing the end of her life, it causes her pain to see that instead of bringing life into the world, she brought death in.yorkj86 wrote...
They could just not have children. Sterile couples, or couples where one partner is sterile, don't need to have children to be romantically "complete." Also, adoption.
If she can still have children, I think some part of her wants to, but she is--very very understandably--afraid to do so. Trying again would feel like inviting despair back into her life, and possibly even another Morinth.
But I would like to see her work through that. I think Samara having a daughter that could have children of her own would be a wonderful thing, both for her and her other daughters, who cannot have children themselves.
Modifié par Wynne, 10 août 2011 - 10:31 .
#23
Posté 11 août 2011 - 04:15
Personally, I think the reason why Samara will not try again to have kids is out of atonement for both her children & the people dead because of Morinth. She failed them both & she now sees the only way she can contribute to the galaxy is to be a tool of justice.
If she cannot be a romance option in ME3, then at least acknowledgement of the love that could not be between Shepard and her. A flicker of regret, a moment's touch, something to show how she will always carry Shepard close to her heart until death finds her.
#24
Posté 11 août 2011 - 05:51
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Posté 14 août 2011 - 05:12





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