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[Aradace]

CuseGirl wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...

I think it probably means the exact opposite. In ME2 the romance scenes featured dressed characters behaving as if they were nude -reading Casey's response in ME3 the characters will still be dressed but not behave like they are nude...so, indeed as everyone suspected, the romance scenes will, once again, be even more tame.

How disappointing.

I do think, however, that many in this thread are overestimating the influence of fox"news" on this trend. If anything it might have been a catalyst for BW to start getting more and more political correct in their romance scenes, but I'm sure BW doesn't feel "forced" to do so by fear of another bs foxnews piece.

I just think BW doesn't consider those scenes to be worth the trouble.

I kno people hate hearing it, but is it possible EA's involvement would lead to more "appropriate" love scenes? I mean, it's like the difference between an obscure independent film company making a book into a movie and Warner Bros. doing it. These large companies have to protect their image while the little guy is trying to make a name itself.

Which is precisely why, despite how I think the romance scenes are garbage in the past few games, that ME3's scenes are going to be even more "tame" than ME2's and DA2's.  Do I like the idea? Hell no.  But unfortunately, it's something I have to accept and move on from.

[Luigitornado]

Mass Effect is an M rated game. Showing some skin shouldn't be a problem here. I don't like falling on the argument "they are doing it, so you should to," but Christ. If other M games can get away with having frontal nudity; without it causing a ruckus...then why can't ME3 have something on caliber with ME1?

Bioware, your game is intended to be for a mature audience.

Modifié par Luigitornado, 08 août 2011 - 01:04 .

[lovgreno]

It is a bit silly that they don't dare to show much skin in ME1 and especialy ME2. I mean this is a game marketed to people over 15. And as a bonus someone may panik about nudity again and give the game some free PR.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

I'm just curious as to how they are going to handle the romances for the squadmates who aren't full-time squad members because I can't see all of the remaining ME2 ones that haven't yet been confirmed returning as such otherwise it'd turn the Normandy into 'The Loveboat' in which the only non-LIs Shep will be talking to are squadmates that Shep didn't hook up with.

How people think it will be? Shep + temp-squadmate LI agree at some point to hook up at <insert location> before Shep steps once more into the breach? (just like previous 2 games sort of) Or Shep + temp-squadmate LI hook up after the missions involving them are done with (just like Liara in LotSB)

[shepskisaac]

CuseGirl wrote...

I kno people hate hearing it, but is it possible EA's involvement would lead to more "appropriate" love scenes? I mean, it's like the difference between an obscure independent film company making a book into a movie and Warner Bros. doing it. These large companies have to protect their image while the little guy is trying to make a name itself.

No. The Sims show more skin than ME2 does.

[CuseGirl]

IsaacShep wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

I kno people hate hearing it, but is it possible EA's involvement would lead to more "appropriate" love scenes? I mean, it's like the difference between an obscure independent film company making a book into a movie and Warner Bros. doing it. These large companies have to protect their image while the little guy is trying to make a name itself.

No. The Sims show more skin than ME2 does.

Only if you program it that way. 

Luigitornado wrote...

Mass Effect is an M rated game. Showing some skin shouldn't be a problem here. I don't like falling on the argument "they are doing it, so you should to," but Christ. If other M games can get away with having frontal nudity; without it causing a ruckus...then why can't ME3 have something on caliber with ME1?

Bioware, your game is intended to be for a mature audience.

It's only a big deal if the game is popular. You never hear about the crappy games on the news when nobody is buying them. It's only when the game becomes wildly popular (and therefore falls into the hands of mainstream white/middle america a la GTA) and people start to freak out over a bit of skin.

They say nothing when Vince Vaughn or Will Ferrell or Seth Rogan (in order of decreasing attractability) make movies with women in full frontal nudity. How long is that boob scene in Wedding Crashers in the beginning? Where was the outrage over that? It's not a big deal because mainstream Americans believe they are entitled to T&A in the movies but the idea of "nerds" and "geeks" seeing the same thing in a game is deplorable to them.

Modifié par CuseGirl, 08 août 2011 - 01:29 .

[bucyrus5000]

EA is pretty evil, I heard they have shotgun competitions, during their frequent company retreats, where they replace the clay pigeons with bunny rabits!

[Thrombin]

Nah, that's just Renegade

[Davie McG]

Have such a perfect joke for this discussion but it would definitely result in an instant ban.

If only people weren't so easily offended.

[AdmiralCheez]

SandTrout wrote...

ME1 had the better scenes, IMO, but ME2 actually had some variety where ME1 only reskinned the otherwise identical scene.

Yep.  I'd say increasing the length of what ME2 had and throwing in a few bare bottoms would be sufficient.

I would, however, appeciate better, more natural buildups.  Strike a balance between ME1's "I'm talking to you, therefore I must love you" and ME2's "Okay, that's nice, wanna shag?"

Really, a good example of this is Kelly Chambers.  You get to know her, and then can either befriend her, flirt with her, or keep her distant.  The conversation is not forced, the player has control, and nothing happens to quickly.  Most charming of all, Kelly's behavior actually slightly changes based on how you treat her.

Now, throw into that the wealth of personal information you get from talking to squadmates in general plus in-mission dialogue, decisions, and disagreements.  Then make the heartwarming and slightly scandalous lovescene the cherry on top.  Ba-boom, best romance ever.

And, yeah, something similar for the friendship path, minus the special scene and sexing.

[GreyWardenNathan]

If it gets more tame than ME2 its pointless having anything really, Dry humping would just look silly to me

[Davie McG]

GreyWardenNathan wrote...

If it gets more tame than ME2 its pointless having anything really, Dry humping would just look silly to me

This is true, there was a topic about this a while ago.

I think the scenes from ME1 were reasonable in the context of the storyline and not at all what I would describe as controversial.

There was a bit of noise about it at the time. That was mainly if not wholly because of an ignorant American woman, who went on the news ranting about how mass effect was a sex game. Even she, when actually showed the scene, admitted it was pretty tame and not what she had been led to believe it was.

Given this I am disappointed Bioware has decided to further tame down these scenes when they were done so well in the first game.

Modifié par Davie McG, 08 août 2011 - 05:24 .

[LadyJaneGrey]

Frankly, I don't care what body parts are shown or for how long.  What bothers me about ME1 and ME2's is the end romance scenes' forced timing.  Most of my Shepards aren't going to risk making a team member sick (Tali) or making herself either high (Thane) or so chafed she'll be walking like a cowboy after her first day (Garrus) a few hours before a huge, super-important end mission. 

Seriously, Bioware, why can Shepard get laid only if he/she has a few hours before the last mission? 

[AdmiralCheez]

LadyJaneGrey wrote...

Frankly, I don't care what body parts are shown or for how long.  What bothers me about ME1 and ME2's is the end romance scenes' forced timing.  Most of my Shepards aren't going to risk making a team member sick (Tali) or making herself either high (Thane) or so chafed she'll be walking like a cowboy after her first day (Garrus) a few hours before a huge, super-important end mission. 

Seriously, Bioware, why can Shepard get laid only if he/she has a few hours before the last mission? 

Oh come on, now.  It's tradition at this point.

Although I agree that I really don't care what bits are shown.  In fact, there are bits of Garrus I would rather never see, if the exposed parts of his anatomy are any clue as to what the rest of him looks like.

[DaringMoosejaw]

CuseGirl wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

CuseGirl wrote...

I kno people hate hearing it, but is it possible EA's involvement would lead to more "appropriate" love scenes? I mean, it's like the difference between an obscure independent film company making a book into a movie and Warner Bros. doing it. These large companies have to protect their image while the little guy is trying to make a name itself.

No. The Sims show more skin than ME2 does.

Only if you program it that way. 

Luigitornado wrote...

Mass Effect is an M rated game. Showing some skin shouldn't be a problem here. I don't like falling on the argument "they are doing it, so you should to," but Christ. If other M games can get away with having frontal nudity; without it causing a ruckus...then why can't ME3 have something on caliber with ME1?

Bioware, your game is intended to be for a mature audience.

It's only a big deal if the game is popular. You never hear about the crappy games on the news when nobody is buying them. It's only when the game becomes wildly popular (and therefore falls into the hands of mainstream white/middle america a la GTA) and people start to freak out over a bit of skin.

They say nothing when Vince Vaughn or Will Ferrell or Seth Rogan (in order of decreasing attractability) make movies with women in full frontal nudity. How long is that boob scene in Wedding Crashers in the beginning? Where was the outrage over that? It's not a big deal because mainstream Americans believe they are entitled to T&A in the movies but the idea of "nerds" and "geeks" seeing the same thing in a game is deplorable to them.

It's because video games are seen as 'for kids', even if they can't sell said game to kids. The amusing thing is how people don't bat an eyelash about games where you mow down countless brown people but the second someone sees a ******, all hell has broken loose.

[Stofsk]

I don't care what 'type' of scenes they are, like ME1 or 2 style, I just want there to be more than one.

[Therefore_I_Am]

ME3 should have something like this
http://imageshack.us.../unled1nzo.jpg/
(!!NSFW!! don't click if your boss is in the office next door, or if you are offended by virtual nudity)

I would say virtual nudity, not actual nudity... Just enough sideboob to tease, but nothing too revealing.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 08 août 2011 - 07:48 .

[Reikenji]

Perhaps something less sensual, as it's the sensuality with the nudity that I'm sure they dislike most. 
Something like this might suffice.. 

www.youtube.com/watch


Course the fact that sex is more stringently regulated than violence in media is something that baffles me.



Rei

Modifié par Reikenji, 08 août 2011 - 07:57 .

[Demonique]

gamer_girl wrote...

Well seeing as the scenes in ME weren't even close to as bad as some scenes in other video games I've seen, I think it should be more explicit than the stuff in ME2. Bust still classy like ME1.

I mean really. Explain to me how this is worse than this (blurred on nude spots to be allowed on youtube).

Kratos sounds like Scott McNeil at the end of his first sentence.....

Someone mustn't have pointed Faux News in the direction of Gods of War

[Annihilator27]

Demonique wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Well seeing as the scenes in ME weren't even close to as bad as some scenes in other video games I've seen, I think it should be more explicit than the stuff in ME2. Bust still classy like ME1.

I mean really. Explain to me how this is worse than this (blurred on nude spots to be allowed on youtube).

Kratos sounds like Scott McNeil at the end of his first sentence.....

Someone mustn't have pointed Faux News in the direction of Gods of War

classy is good in my case.

[The Twilight God]

With the inclusion of gay romances there is no way they are going back to ME1. That's probably why they included it now because they figured the romance scenes would be so lame anyway that it wouldn't matter if two dudes had a love scene. They'll probably all don rain coats, put on gloves, hold hands and fade to black anyway.

[ThePwener]

ME1 had the better shots. They looked the most movielike. In ME2, some romances didn't even get one.

[ThePwener]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

thread necro

Looky there, it is.