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#126
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Arcian wrote...

Kel_Sjet wrote...

Quick note to the moderators (especially javierabegazo).
I know there is somewhat of a stigma attached to posting stuff on these forums that aren't just outright praising Bioware and ME3, but please read this article fully before deciding to delete this thread.

The fact that you even bothered to add this makes you a first class douchebag.


Not to drag this out.  In fact this will be my only comment on it in this thread, but you think that part of the post is unwarranted?  Really?  I still remember a thread being closed by javier on the basis that it wasn't well written or well thought out.  Is he an English teacher/professor?  He also went out of his way to assume or hint at the poster being a troll remarking on his history.  I've called him out on doing things like that before.  Even Stanley Woo rarely pulls that out.  In any case, I was able to look at the poster's thread creation history and his posting history.  Nothing trollish about his behavior up to that point in any way shape or form.

And the audacity, regardless of who he is, to say something like that when there were threads on the first page of that forum that basically said "ME2 is the best game ever. Discuss!" and those went overlooked.  Defend him as much as you want, but he comes across as biased despite the fact that in his role he's supposed to maintain an objective viewpoint.

That's my time.

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You know, I've been coming here a little while, and I've seen a lot of things. Topics discussing hair, or sexual orientation. Topics about minute details that went on far longer than they had any right to.

But I can't say I've seen any 'ME2 is AWESOME!' topics, really. This place certainly isn't littered with praise topics; for the most part it's just people discussing ideas for ME3. The notion that, if you talk smack about ME3 you'll be instantly banned is ridiculous. Anybody who pays attention to anything around here will tell you about the same. There is no shortage of negative feeling towards Bioware games here.

In fact, I can think of only one person I know who's been banned, King Zeel, and he was practically begging for it.

Modifié par littlezack, 09 août 2011 - 06:30 .


#128
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"Oh no! The people at Bioware ****ed up with DA2 and now every game they make from now on will be absolute ****! Waaah!"
Ever heard about learning from mistakes?

#129
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The PLC wrote...
Ever heard about learning from mistakes?


Major companies, they do not usually do this.

#130
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Dragon XIX wrote...

The PLC wrote...
Ever heard about learning from mistakes?


Major companies, they do not usually do this.


1 word.

Legacy.

#131
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No, I do not think I will read it.

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Lol won't even read that article, read a couple of posts and I know all too well what's in that article.


And that isn't really an "article", because from what I've seen is just an opinion, it's like someone on BSN posted an "omg dun makez ME moar shootz it will ruin u :(" thread, but just not on the forums.

People call anything that any idiot wrote on internet an article, while in fact, an article must be written from an objective point of view, and must be informative of some sort, providing facts and have real documentation as basis.

I will go write an "article" about how much I loved ME2's combat over ME1's, I expect someone to make a thread of it here.

Modifié par Dexi, 09 août 2011 - 06:56 .


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Dragon XIX wrote...

The PLC wrote...
Ever heard about learning from mistakes?


Major companies, they do not usually do this.

Epic Games learned from their mistakes with the epic fail that was the Gears Of War 2 MP on release, and released a MP beta for the 3rd game, to test out the new servers etc. And it worked great.

EA learned from their mistakes with the Need For Speed games by going back to the series' roots with NFS Hot Pursuit. And with great success.

Rockstar North learned from their 'mistakes' with the serious tone in GTA IV (though I really liked that) and released the Ballad of Gay Tony episode, which added a lot of the stuff that some people had been asking for. 

And last, but not least. Bioware learned from their mistakes with DA 2 and released the Legacy dlc. While this one isn't perfect, it's a huge step up from the original. No more of those never ending waves of enemies and the enviroments are nice and varied. This shows that the Dragon Age devs are aware of the org. games' flaws, and that they are listening to the fans. 

And it's pretty clear that the Mass Effect developers are reading a lot of the messages on twitter and this and other forums. These companies do not just ignore the people who buys their games. They want to sell games, you know. 

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Arent Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect made by two different teams?

Also everyone has a different meaning for the word RPG. There is no point in saying that Mass Effect isnt a RPG if we can never agree on what it means to be an RPG in the first place.

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The PLC wrote...

"Oh no! The people at Bioware ****ed up with DA2 and now every game they make from now on will be absolute ****! Waaah!"
Ever heard about learning from mistakes?


Mistakes? DA2 wasent a mistake, you don't spend all that time and money and mistakingly make it bad.

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The article is meh and it won't change anything.

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LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

"Oh no! The people at Bioware ****ed up with DA2 and now every game they make from now on will be absolute ****! Waaah!"
Ever heard about learning from mistakes?


Mistakes? DA2 wasent a mistake, you don't spend all that time and money and mistakingly make it bad.

There's the problem. They DIDN'T spend a very long time on that game.

Modifié par The PLC, 09 août 2011 - 08:05 .


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didymos1120

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LiquidLogic2020 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

"Oh no! The people at Bioware ****ed up with DA2 and now every game they make from now on will be absolute ****! Waaah!"
Ever heard about learning from mistakes?


Mistakes? DA2 wasent a mistake, you don't spend all that time and money and mistakingly make it bad.


"Mistake" doesn't mean "accident", and time and money are irrelevant to whether or not any given action was mistaken.

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didymos1120

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Dragon XIX wrote...

The PLC wrote...
Ever heard about learning from mistakes?


Major companies, they do not usually do this.


New Coke. 

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Homey C-Dawg wrote...

  • Will it have any stats? Even just listing the tech numbers for weapons/armor in-game would be good.

Yes. Look at the screens for the skill menu (how you can expand each skill is different now, with apparently 3 choices per lvl). We don't have numbers for weapons as yet, just bars.

  • Will it have any sort of inventory? Not one where you can carry 300 guns, but maybe one where you can carry small items like medigel and a few in-the-field swappable upgrades.


No, and hopefully these 'features' don't make it in. Nothing sucks more than Shepard pulling 33 grenades, a rocket launcher, 8 packs of medi gel, 14 shotguns, 3 handguns, 4 sniper rifles, and 6 complete sets of armour out of his ass.

  • Will we be able to buy and sell things at the shops? Stuff I can carry around and maybe sell to other people/shops for different prices?


As far as I know, that feature hasn't been mentioned.

  • Will there be hidden weapons/armor/items that are hard to find and badass to use, instead of all the cool stuff being handed to us on a silver platter (in ME2 you couldn't not pick up guns, if you passed on them they are given to you at mission end anyway).


Why would hidden weapons make sense? In ME2 you had to research all of your heavy weapons. 

  • Will there be any non-combat powers?

From what we saw, no.

The "G" in RPG refers to mechanics.


It refers to game. Shooter mechanics are part of that.

Modifié par In Exile, 09 août 2011 - 08:33 .


#141
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"The reason BioWare has built up such a strong and dedicated fanbase over the years is because its team are so skilled at creating compelling, sophisticated and expansive gameworlds, populated by complex, diverse characters, brimming with wondrous places to explore and ultimately allowing the player to build their own character’s skills and personality, making crucial decisions that shape the story along the way."

I see no reason why having kickass TPS gameplay would detract from any of these things.

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Dragon XIX wrote...

The PLC wrote...
Ever heard about learning from mistakes?


Major companies, they do not usually do this.


Good thing BW is not one of them.

#143
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Has anyone here played the story components of ME3? Until we do we can't say anything on the RPG elements. For all we know the game does both brilliantly.

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didymos1120

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Chewin3 wrote...

Dragon XIX wrote...

The PLC wrote...
Ever heard about learning from mistakes?


Major companies, they do not usually do this.


Good thing BW is not one of them.


Uh, yeah it is: it's a wholly-owned division of EA.  Not that it matters, because the notion is wrong anyway.

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That's not what I meant.

I meant was that BW learns from their mistakes.

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Well, I read it, but I can't see anything relevant that hasn't already been brought up on here a million times to be honest.

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Article was: "ME series is great. I hope that ME3 is awesome. I'm worried that it's just a action game. But maybe it's good."

Didn't give me much. I'm sure ME3 is in good hands and the good story and RPG elements are there. For me ME2 was a step forward, because BW got rid of awkward inventory and weapon mods. But what ever. I'll buy ME3 when it arrives and after completing the game, I'll know what I think of it. It's useless to guess what the game is going to be like.

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So gameplay should be crap to some people to be able to enjoy it? The characters and the story will still be great. Now it also plays well. Mass Effect 2 was first BioWare game I decided to play on higher difficulties because of how well it plays.