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[Uccio]

Kiddies should stop playing mature games if a bit of skin makes them go "Oh noes!". Besides like others said in the thread, I find it odd and a bit disturbing that massacring people with blood spraying all over the screen and the player is ok to people but some nudity is a horror.


Lets have a nice cut scene for combat too where hero attacs villains and then game fades to black, after which we see hero and friends standing over corpses talking chit chat. After all brutal combat like nudity must make you people feel awkward too right?!

Modifié par Ukki, 09 août 2011 - 04:51 .

[esper]

The reason I felt awkward in dao was:
1. Underwear still on.
2. I wasn't quite sure what they were doing all the time.
3. Mostly the same for all characters which was weird because height difference and so on was suddenly gone.

I loved Me1's 'love scene' and could see abosolutely nothing wron with it. It was very classy done.

Modifié par esper, 09 août 2011 - 04:28 .

[nitefyre410]

well to be honest it we  are going to get better love scenes there  might need to be motion capture work done because I just don't think you can program a model to get across the intimacy of the moment. They still look all very robotic and rigid.

Time to call Andy Serkis and get him to maybe consult.

Modifié par nitefyre410, 09 août 2011 - 04:37 .

[happy_daiz]

I'd just be happy if I could make out with Fenris in the middle of Lowtown if I want, to be honest.

[Anathemic]

It's rated M for christ sakes, screw Western psuedo-culture

[Eternal Phoenix]

Origins did the romance scenes nicely. There wasn't any nudity either. Why Dragon Age 2 adopted a more casual route...I don't know. You see nude Broodmothers in Origins, why don't you see a bit of nudity in romance scenes? I find it silly.

Dry humping anyone?

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 09 août 2011 - 04:43 .

[Drone696]

Somehow I get the feeling the people demanding more sex are the real kiddies.
I don't need to see pixel penetration - it's just awkward. Wooden moves, clipping, underwear... I preferred DA2 love scenes, although a little more skin would've been nice, eg. a nice shirtless Anders.

[nitefyre410]

rapunzel696 wrote...

Somehow I get the feeling the people demanding more sex are the real kiddies.
I don't need to see pixel penetration - it's just awkward. Wooden moves, clipping, underwear... I preferred DA2 love scenes, although a little more skin would've been nice, eg. a nice shirtless Anders.

 


Pixel  Penetration---  No

Making look more natural -  yes. They just seemed forced and rigid to me.

[Anathemic]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Origins did the romance scenes nicely. There wasn't any nudity either. Why Dragon Age 2 adopted a more casual route...I don't know. You see nude Broodmothers in Origins, why don't you see a bit of nudity in romance scenes? I find it silly.

Dry humping anyone?

You just reminded me of that one scene from Bad Teacher, shame on you sir.

[Uccio]

rapunzel696 wrote...

Somehow I get the feeling the people demanding more sex are the real kiddies.
I don't need to see pixel penetration - it's just awkward. Wooden moves, clipping, underwear... I preferred DA2 love scenes, although a little more skin would've been nice, eg. a nice shirtless Anders.

Games which are made for adults include violence. Therefore they usually include nudity too. Kiddies shouldn´t try to play adult games if they are feeling unease.

That said pRon is not the goal, but a mature scene with sensuality. I really do not need morality guards telling me what I can see and what not. Maybe somekind adult filter would be in order.


ps. I´m 39 and married.

[Eternal Phoenix]

rapunzel696 wrote...

Somehow I get the feeling the people demanding more sex are the real kiddies.
I don't need to see pixel penetration - it's just awkward. Wooden moves, clipping, underwear... I preferred DA2 love scenes, although a little more skin would've been nice, eg. a nice shirtless Anders.

I too wouldn't want to see pixel penetration. I don't care if nudity makes it into a Dragon Age game but you have to admit that's it quite silly for the game to be 18 and contain exploding bodies but have PG romance scenes. 

[Drone696]

@Ukki and Elton John Is Dead: You are right.There seems to be one-sided censorship: violence yay - sex nay. I don't get it either, but as I'm European I don't really have insight into the whole Fox news - Puritan influence on society and media in the US.

[smigetz]

rapunzel696 wrote...

@Ukki and Elton John Is Dead: You are right.There seems to be one-sided censorship: violence yay - sex nay. I don't get it either, but as I'm European I don't really have insight into the whole Fox news - Puritan influence on society and media in the US.

thats pretty much  how it is because parents let there kids play anything and if something isnt to there liking its blame the developer for exposing our children when its your responsibility to  to read labels  such as gore sexual content language and or what ever the label may be but because there idiotic lazy twits they trust the developer to do everything to there liking you wouldn't trust a car thief to buy a stolen car from would you ? American parents are like that not all but a good amount

Modifié par smigetz, 09 août 2011 - 05:33 .

[casadechrisso]

It's always black and white in these threads, isn't it? Ask for a more natural love scene and all the comments are pro/contra pixelpr0n. I gave up discussing that topic on these boards really, there's just no point anymore.... well, for what it's worth...
I agree that the "kids play this game" argument is ridiculous, and also I can't hear the "pixelpr0n" comments anymore - after all, erotic movies are made of dots too, no? And is admiring a painting of a nude pigmentpr0n, watching a photo grainpr0n, reading a short story inkpr0n now? It's all art, just different media, and it's sad that so few game developers have the balls to include some erotic (sic!) into their mature(?) games. Nobody asks for close-ups and full frontal nudity, but IMHO, the self-censorship with laughable undies makes a game much more immature than a scene like ME1's cutscene that was very well done.

[nitefyre410]

casadechrisso wrote...

It's always black and white in these threads, isn't it? Ask for a more natural love scene and all the comments are pro/contra pixelpr0n. I gave up discussing that topic on these boards really, there's just no point anymore.... well, for what it's worth...
I agree that the "kids play this game" argument is ridiculous, and also I can't hear the "pixelpr0n" comments anymore - after all, erotic movies are made of dots too, no? And is admiring a painting of a nude pigmentpr0n, watching a photo grainpr0n, reading a short story inkpr0n now? It's all art, just different media, and it's sad that so few game developers have the balls to include some erotic (sic!) into their mature(?) games. Nobody asks for close-ups and full frontal nudity, but IMHO, the self-censorship with laughable undies makes a game much more immature than a scene like ME1's cutscene that was very well done.

 

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[furryrage59]

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

furryrage59 wrote...

element eater wrote...

furryrage59 wrote...
I personally just don't see the need for full nudity in a game that WILL be played by young uns to have nudity. 

thats the thing tho in the uk you have to be 18 to play this game not exactly a young un seeing as by this age theres pretty much nothing they cant see or do

yes me1 was controversial (in the US atleast) but things have moved on since then any way, look at Heavy Rain that has alot of nudity in it and that was a flagship game for the ps3.

im not saying u need graphic scenes but something along the lines of me1 scenes would be nice

I agree with you, it is a mature game but unfortunately it will get played by loads of young ones, parents will see and then scream omg nudness etc.

If it is tasteful, romantic and not just nakedness for the sake of nakedness i might ni mind so much but i just have never felt the nude to see nudity in a computer game. When i ws younger i thought it was awesome but since girlfriends and lots of boobies, it detracts from my relaxation fo a game. (hope that makes sense).

I don't want to be getting a woody over a computer game^_^

So you would have a problem with your children seeing a naked girl butt or boobs, but having them watching a series of beheding, impaling, maiming, and other bloody carnage is completely fine? I think any of those mention, easily beat any kind of "classic" porn.

I am not saying they should make a hardcore sex scenes there - but obviously, the underwear should be off, even if it would be just something more sensual and romatic.

And i don`t care if FOX or some other fools start crying that BW is making porn. Infamity is just another kind of fame, and if anything more people will buy this game because of it - and then what's it to you? Just more money for BW and thus more money (and better) continuation of DA series. 

Besides this, if i am not mistaken computer games where already elevated to the status of "Art", meaning that if they consider that bioware would made a sexual act as it actually should be, then also things like from Michelangelo (who often made naked statues) is also porn?

That is a fair point. However the characters leaping around the screen like crack addicted squirrels don't stand out as much as a full screen, colourful sex scene with sex noises.

Quality and taste before just nakedness for teh sake of nakedness. Leaving naighty bits to the imagionation can be even sexier than just seeing flesh imo.

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

I'd prefer that they drop the idea that every relationship needs to culminate in a sexual act.

[Drone696]

I completely agree with furryrage59.
There had to be sex scenes VO - no way they're going to do that.

[casadechrisso]

Mass Effect 1's "scandal scene" had no VO either, is tame but a hundred times more believable than DA2's.

Reminder

Modifié par casadechrisso, 09 août 2011 - 07:56 .

[Drone696]

casadechrisso wrote...

Mass Effect 1's "scandal scene" had no VO either, is tame but a hundred times more believable than DA2's.

Reminder

Oh, that's nice, too (I haven't played ME).
But the DA2 scenes were believable,too imo. Maybe show undressing, etc.

[casadechrisso]

Well it's not only the act that was not believable IMO, it was the whole fastfood-romance. Maybe I'm too old and kids these days go faster from first kiss to moving in, but I thought the whole thing was rather anti-climatic, skin or not:

Romance initiation (advanced RPers only): click heart symbol during conversation 3 times (Hint: Heart! Not Jester, doh! Noo, not the broken heart!). Listen to Hawke's lines, you really should try those out in the pub too next time... >_<
Then it goes like...

Merrill: Hi Hawke, this is totally awkward but...
Hawke: (generic ****** line)
*kiss*
*shag*
"move in with me!" - "Ya, sure".

... done.

Excuse me when I say there was zero romance, zero erotic and zero butterflies in that whole game. ME1 was in my opinion the most mature (and still very naive and child-safe) love scene Bioware made, but after that ridiculous FOX "scandal" (they apparently never even looked at the scene) they chickened out instead of keeping that classier standard.

[roundcrow]

I feel like there's gotta be a middle ground between "fade to black" and a minute and a half of rubbery fingers, granny panties, and somewhat odd physical positions.

EDIT: Oh, and: Protection? Sure, I had Arcane Shield active.  What?

Modifié par roundcrow, 09 août 2011 - 08:57 .

[Uccio]

casadechrisso wrote...

Well it's not only the act that was not believable IMO, it was the whole fastfood-romance. Maybe I'm too old and kids these days go faster from first kiss to moving in, but I thought the whole thing was rather anti-climatic, skin or not:

Romance initiation (advanced RPers only): click heart symbol during conversation 3 times (Hint: Heart! Not Jester, doh! Noo, not the broken heart!). Listen to Hawke's lines, you really should try those out in the pub too next time... >_<
Then it goes like...

Merrill: Hi Hawke, this is totally awkward but...
Hawke: (generic ****** line)
*kiss*
*shag*
"move in with me!" - "Ya, sure".

... done.

Excuse me when I say there was zero romance, zero erotic and zero butterflies in that whole game. ME1 was in my opinion the most mature (and still very naive and child-safe) love scene Bioware made, but after that ridiculous FOX "scandal" (they apparently never even looked at the scene) they chickened out instead of keeping that classier standard.

It´s kind of sad since it is true. Made me smile though. 

[Chibi020]

I agree with both sides, don't want porn making my eyes bleed but a little bit more intimacy would have been nice. Clothes on, or partially off. A bit of nudity would be scandalous though and I know I like scandals XD

[Icinix]

I don't really care either way.

The dialogue up to that point I find more important than how the scene plays out without my interaction.