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#176
FieryDove

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LordKinoda wrote...


EA has been hemmoraging money for quite some time due to ToR.


They'll make back every red cent they spent on that game in the the first few months. It's Star Wars. Nuff said. You don't have to be a market anaylst to know that that game is going to blow up. Even if it somehow ending up sucking badly (which is so highly unlikely) it would hold plenty enough players until the servers shut down to make back their investment and then some.

So if rushing DA2 out to get money to pay for TOR is the reason for DA2's shortcummings they really need to start re-thinking their line of career. Because if they don't have the common sense to know they'll make tons of money off a Star Wars game, an MMO Star Wars game mind you, where players pay EACH month to play it and to buy the game itself; and any future expansions, then they shouldn't be making games. Either that, or hire new market analysts who do have common sense to go along with their skills if they are that clueless.


I didn't say DA2 was paying for ToR. I doubt DAO+DA2+ME+ME2 profits could put a dent in the ToR bill. What I was saying that having a product ship boosts the bottom line. It's all profit margins with stockholders.

ToR should do well. I hope it does. I plan to try it but not the $150 collectors in this economy it's just not reasonable for me to pay that for a game I might not even enjoy. So the $60 regular edition it is. (I said I was finished with MMO's a long while back but...sigh) I really wanted Kotor3 truth be told. lol

Now we are OT.

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IBtw I really really hope that we continue as Hawke in DA3, I got very attached to my Hawke and I dont want to lose her Image IPB It would crush my heart!
Whats the point in developing a character just to have it gone in the next game?

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Sorry but the Devs said we will not play as Hawke or the Warden in #3. They want a new character for each game. DA is about the world and the stories within not one person.

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Sorry but the Devs said we will not play as Hawke or the Warden in #3. They want a new character for each game. DA is about the world and the stories within not one person.



Image IPB That ruins everything for me. I hope they change their minds or give us the option to choose.
Thanks for letting me known..

I won't lose my hopes anyway.

Modifié par Ellen86, 23 août 2011 - 01:14 .


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A love scene doesn't need nudity to be sexy.

Atonement" did it very well: www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Annie_Dear, 25 août 2011 - 05:43 .


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Annie_Dear wrote...

A love scene doesn't need nudity to be sexy.

Atonement" did it very well: www.youtube.com/watch


Oh I agree. But a shirtless Anders and Fenris would have been fine at some point.

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FieryDove wrote...

Annie_Dear wrote...

A love scene doesn't need nudity to be sexy.

Atonement" did it very well: www.youtube.com/watch


Oh I agree. But a shirtless Anders and Fenris would have been fine at some point.


Exactly! :wizard:

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****, a dirty giggle or something would have made the scenes in da2 way better. i mean when you go to the blooming rose ur forced to pick an elven girl then the next scene is just you zipping up your pants WTF. DA:O did it pretty good, tho some more unique scenes for each character would be cool. i just thought the making out on the bed with the clothes on one time in da2 was kinda lame.

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I prefer hacking things or blowing stuff up with fireballs. No time for dating sim.

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Jestina wrote...

I prefer hacking things or blowing stuff up with fireballs. No time for dating sim.


And you can't do that in DA2 because....? Because others might enjoy companion relationships be it friend or more right? Can't let anyone have choices...no let's all just go play Diablo.

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FieryDove wrote...

Jestina wrote...

I prefer hacking things or blowing stuff up with fireballs. No time for dating sim.


And you can't do that in DA2 because....? Because others might enjoy companion relationships be it friend or more right? Can't let anyone have choices...no let's all just go play Diablo.


Hmm...I'll admit, I do get an itch to blow stuff up ala Just Cause 2 or Saboteur once in a while. As for hacking, I love it. Been doing that in Deus Ex HR for the past couple of days, and have found it to be a lot of fun. I liked it in Fallout and ME as well. :D

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happy_daiz wrote...

Hmm...I'll admit, I do get an itch to blow stuff up ala Just Cause 2 or Saboteur once in a while. As for hacking, I love it. Been doing that in Deus Ex HR for the past couple of days, and have found it to be a lot of fun. I liked it in Fallout and ME as well. :D


Oh yes, smash/slice and dice can be fun. However we can hack and fireball till we are sick of it in this game. (quite early on for some) due to...hold breath now millions of waves!

Besides while I like action RPG's I really prefer Bioware companions vs. walking extra backpacks of other games. (Diablo 2 included). Image IPB

What was this thread about again? Oh my bad.

Anders and Fenris shirtless DLC please. Image IPB

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FieryDove wrote...

Annie_Dear wrote...

A love scene doesn't need nudity to be sexy.

Atonement" did it very well: www.youtube.com/watch


Oh I agree. But a shirtless Anders and Fenris would have been fine at some point.


James McAvoy keeps his clothes on and I dinf him more sexier than the thought of a shirtless Anders or Fenris...

But we all have our tastes.

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If time and money is the main reason for lack of nudity then why not include it in a patch or post-release DLC?  They seem to be spending quite a bit of time on new armor sets for DA2(ARMOR!!!), for ME2 they released two apperance packs for your party(along with a bunch of new guns).  Surely they can use some of that time to create partially nude models for romancable characters.

I'd pay a dollar to see Isabella topless and i'm sure most guys here would aswell.

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JedTed wrote...

If time and money is the main reason for lack of nudity then why not include it in a patch or post-release DLC?

I'd pay a dollar to see Isabella topless and i'm sure most guys here would aswell.


I won't. If a nude patch is what I wanted, I'd visit the Nexus site or create one myself (which would probably look better than a Bioware creation). I'd like to see believable, immersive romance scenes, not simply a nude skin.

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casadechrisso wrote...
 I'd like to see believable, immersive romance scenes, not simply a nude skin.


Agreed. Although I hasten to add that people making love in real life rarely keep their knickers on. I actually think the bath-house scene in TW2 is by far the best such scene I've seen in a game to date. Brilliant. I really think Bioware should challenge themselves to do even better than that. They have the talent to do so IMO.

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I don't understand the reverence of ME1's love scenes. It was exactly the same scene for every LI... and just as awkward as the love scenes that were present in following games. Pixel love will always be awkward. Side-boob and ass won't change that.

Modifié par Sabariel, 27 août 2011 - 01:43 .


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Ellen86 wrote...



Sorry but the Devs said we will not play as Hawke or the Warden in #3. They want a new character for each game. DA is about the world and the stories within not one person.



Image IPB That ruins everything for me. I hope they change their minds or give us the option to choose.
Thanks for letting me known..

I won't lose my hopes anyway.


Just a note. I believe they confirmed this way back before DA2 was even released. Each DA is about a different character and I'm fine with that. I'm not fine with all my characters "vanishing" though. I believe they'll just reappear in the final instalment of DA to work together to defeat the greatest ever threat to Thedas. Maybe they give all their powers to the new character for whatever DA is the last. The Warden is rumored to appear in some form...but it's been confirmed he/she won't be playable but who knows?

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 27 août 2011 - 04:47 .


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I actually think the bath-house scene in TW2 is by far the best such scene I've seen in a game to date. Brilliant. I really think Bioware should challenge themselves to do even better than that. They have the talent to do so IMO.


Haven't played this game, but I did look up the scene. This one is pretty well done actually. It's not full on pornographic, and they are naked, which they should be. Actual moaning to indicate they are having sex, instead of purely full on music overlay, this is also good. So I'll agree that is the best 'love scene' I've seen in a video game yet, barring mods of course.

I don't understand the reverence of ME1's love scenes. It was exactly the same scene for every LI...and just as awkward as the love scenes that were present in following games.


I don't think it's reverence per se, but more of a consensus that it's the most risque BW has went in any of their games. They still need to push it further IMO. Again, something similar to an R-rated movie isn't too much to ask for or expect.

Pixel love will always be awkward. Side-boob and ass won't change that.


Not always. It can be done right with enough talent/effort put into it.

Modifié par LordKinoda, 25 septembre 2011 - 02:19 .


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casadechrisso wrote...

JedTed wrote...

If time and money is the main reason for lack of nudity then why not include it in a patch or post-release DLC?

I'd pay a dollar to see Isabella topless and i'm sure most guys here would aswell.


I won't. If a nude patch is what I wanted, I'd visit the Nexus site or create one myself (which would probably look better than a Bioware creation). I'd like to see believable, immersive romance scenes, not simply a nude skin.


Once again you forget that mods don't exist for the console versions(yes, people DO play Bioware games on consoles).

I'm not meaning to start a platform war, my point was to say if they don't have time to little things like this during the development cycle then what's stopping them from patching it in post-release?