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[King Minos]

Messages all over facebook about meeting in Cov city, looks serious, my house is on the outskirts 10 min walking distance to city centre, hell breaks loose then I'm going to Ikea or west Orchids and getting weapons and food for the family. People have lost homes and that's not going to happen to me, I'm going to make sure of that.

[Druss99]

Erm slightly odd question but kind of weapon or food are you planning on finding at Ikea? "I'll hit you with this chair as soon as I assemble it ya bastard!!"

You would be best to go now before it kicks off and stock up on whatever you need, unless you fancy a repeat of last night.

[Aeowyn]

Druss99 wrote...

Erm slightly odd question but kind of weapon or food are you planning on finding at Ikea? "I'll hit you with this chair as soon as I assemble it ya bastard!!"

You would be best to go now before it kicks off and stock up on whatever you need, unless you fancy a repeat of last night.

I agree with this. Best go now and stock up, then try to barricade the doors the best you can.

[Kenzie1100]

Apparently theres going to be many more riots tonight. They're going to close all of the Liverpool city centre early to try and evacuate people early. Hopefully the increased police presence over last night will stop these thugs.

[Seeker Sparrow]

Kenzie1100 wrote...

Apparently theres going to be many more riots tonight. They're going to close all of the Liverpool city centre early to try and evacuate people early. Hopefully the increased police presence over last night will stop these thugs.

Ugh, that does not sound promising.

I really do hope it doesn't spread further north.

[vometia]

Bazedragon wrote...

And this is why people are calling for
the military to bolster their numbers. If riots start in other places (such as aparrently planned in Bournemouth) then police will most likely be recalled, and situation will only be made worse.

Problem is, soldiers aren't really trained to deal with civil problems like this.  That said, they could probably be directed by police and could swell their numbers that way.  And the Territorials will probably be more useful than the PCSOs...

Aeowyn wrote...

Nothing here in Oxford and I sincerely hope it stays that way. To all you who are in the affected areas, stay safe.

I wouldn't be surprised if Blackbird Leys joins in with the festivities at some point, though it usually tends to be quite self-contained.

[Funkcase]

Sadly A man was killed by a rioter last night in Croydon in London, he was shot whilst in his car. Apparanty he was a rioter but had a disagreement with a other group of rioters and they killed him. I wonder how long before this reaches Wales, Bristol is close enough to Newport.

Apparently some people are fighting back, some turkish people in London have apparantly armed themselves and are patroling there own area's for trouble. A friend told me they apparantly told the police that ''they're defending themselves, becuase the police failed''

Modifié par Funkcase, 09 août 2011 - 03:48 .

[blothulfur]

Roll up. Roll up. How are the goverment going to combat this wave of senseless vandalism and pointless violence: Build more prisons and actually start handing down sentences other than a few days of community service? Name, shame and sue the perpetrators? Seize every asset of the criminals so that us taxpayers are not once again forced to foot the bill for scroungers? Refuse to give the scum any benefits, state housing or child allowance and let them starve on the street corners they so like to gather on and think about what they've done as winter culls their worthless bodies from the human race.

Or will the usual suspects be blamed: The violent lyrics of that wrapping paper and hippety hoppety music, the terrible video games that are scarring the fragile young minds of the innocent children, the evil big businesses who encourage the evil of hard work for a fair days pay and the enrichment of free trade or will it become yet another rallying cry about how us spoiled fat westerners are so harshly oppressed by our fascist goverments that are really tools of the templar and illumnati alien overlords or similar conspiracy crap.

I'm going to tool up, bunker down and drag a few of the scum down to hell with me when they come calling and meet my viking forebears in the hall of the slain.

England is a paradise, english society is an open sewer.

Modifié par blothulfur, 09 août 2011 - 03:33 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

It's crap like this that makes full-out facism seem like a good idea.

I sincerely hope the police will come down hard on these lowlife thugs.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 09 août 2011 - 03:57 .

[stewie1974]

I'm in london where it was apocalyptic.

an additional ten thousand police are being sent into town tonight.

The army will not be called in.

If you've already been hit, it's unlikely you'll be hit again, as like locusts once they've taken everything they can, they move on.

My area is totally destroyed historic buildings that survived the blitz are now just burned out shells.

It's disgusting and I hope the rioters sincerlly rot in hell.

[billy the squid]

I'm still laughing at the response from the government "we police by consenssus, not the more brutal continental style." Oh, and I though my jokes were bad. If they were in France the police would have beaten them to a pulp and bundled them into the back of a van. Yet, there are calls by some protestors to treat young people with respect.

Heres a thought, how about we treat them like the thieving, riotous scum they are.

Modifié par billy the squid, 09 août 2011 - 04:05 .

[Funkcase]

stewie1974 wrote...

I'm in london where it was apocalyptic.

an additional ten thousand police are being sent into town tonight.

The army will not be called in.

If you've already been hit, it's unlikely you'll be hit again, as like locusts once they've taken everything they can, they move on.

My area is totally destroyed historic buildings that survived the blitz are now just burned out shells.

It's disgusting and I hope the rioters sincerlly rot in hell.

Agreed, these people make me sick. They've even made flyers on how to avoid getting arrested. Why? All the senseless looting? They dont actually care about the reason the protest was for, they just used it as a excuse to wreak havoc. They're a embarrasment to this country.

Modifié par Funkcase, 09 août 2011 - 04:07 .

[vometia]

Funkcase wrote...

They dont actually care about the reason the protest was for, they just used it as a excuse to wreak havoc.

And that's the root of the problem.  There are plenty of things in this country worth protesting about right now, but this was no protest: these people aren't hungry, homeless, deprived, they're just helping themselves to televisions and designer trainers and setting fire to stuff for a laugh with absolutely no concern for other people's livelihoods--or lives, for that matter.

[stewie1974]

Bazedragon wrote...

Why China? Why not force them to rebuild the destroyed buildings by hand?

that would require skills, which they evidently don't have.

Use them for medical experiments....... at least they can be of some use.

[KenKenpachi]

billy the squid wrote...

I'm still laughing at the response from the government "we police by consenssus, not the more brutal continental style." Oh, and I though my jokes were bad. If they were in France the police would have beaten them to a pulp and bundled them into the back of a van. Yet, there are calls by some protestors to treat young people with respect.

Heres a thought, how about we treat them like the thieving, riotous scum they are.

Lol reminds me I read that report, and some former officer/PM when the current mayor said Water Cannon's won't be used said "We use them on the Irishman, but somehow the Englishman is above this treatment? In my experience water cannons work rather well at crowd control."

Honestly surprised given the nature of the UK's politics someone was willing to speak out on that, but let that comment run around in Northern Ireland a bit and there will be even more trouble. And honestly from the Reports I've seen they can put 50k cops in London and it won't do a bit of good if all you do isstand about and say go about your day citizen.  Will be of note to see how this changes or shapes the UK's geo-political structure.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 09 août 2011 - 04:20 .

[Deathwurm]

I really hope everyone is ok! This sounds stupid, but things can be replaced.

What I find suspicious is the fact that the Police are just now seeming to get serious about the rioting. The whole thing reminds me of the Los Angeles riots after the Rodney King verdicts, where the Police response was purposefully slow and ineffective out of spite.

[N7M]

Dehumanization makes monstrous things easy to understand and accomplish.

[KenKenpachi]

Deathwurm wrote...

I really hope everyone is ok! This sounds stupid, but things can be replaced.

What I find suspicious is the fact that the Police are just now seeming to get serious about the rioting. The whole thing reminds me of the Los Angeles riots after the Rodney King verdicts, where the Police response was purposefully slow and ineffective out of spite.

Yeah as "Mysterious" as the cops guarding the banks in my area at night. No one gives a **** about the slums, hell more that burns the better. You can buy it up cheap slap condo's down on the cheap, turn a profit (not how I think of it, just sure someone else is.) when it gets near the tourism and the major markets, then you have to act on it to keep your election financers happy.

And some things arn't easy to replace. Like if your home was burned down could you get another one? If all you owned was taken? Insurance never pays but at best half of the value, nevermind the emotional factor. I'm sure alot of people in the region are sitting at home with whatever Sporting goods Melee weapons they have praying they stay safe, and are upset that the police arn't protecting them. And that trust will not come back, in fact as I said I wonder what geo-political outcome this will end up with.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 09 août 2011 - 04:38 .

[Bazedragon]

Rumours of stuff happening in Southampton (denied by police so far, despite www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9185190.Attempted_arson_at_Southampton_job_centre/ yesterday.)

[Deathwurm]

I agree, Ken.

I'm certainly not trying to downplay the impact of losing everything to a rioting group of animals and everything you've mentioned is very difficult or nearly impossible to replace...an innocent Human Life is absolutely impossible to replace, though.

I moved out of Los Angeles just a week and a half before the riots. The city was a Police State before the riots with people being pulled over for DWB (driving while black) a hundred times a day and Latino's under arrest regularly being shot while "escaping" with their hands cuffed behind them...then a major riot came along and the Police were interested only in making sure their fellow Officers were safe and standing back and watching it all burn.

And people did exactly what you describe...bought all of it up for nothing on the dollar and turning it into expensive housing and such.

[billy the squid]

KenKenpachi wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

I'm still laughing at the response from the government "we police by consenssus, not the more brutal continental style." Oh, and I though my jokes were bad. If they were in France the police would have beaten them to a pulp and bundled them into the back of a van. Yet, there are calls by some protestors to treat young people with respect.

Heres a thought, how about we treat them like the thieving, riotous scum they are.

Lol reminds me I read that report, and some former officer/PM when the current mayor said Water Cannon's won't be used said "We use them on the Irishman, but somehow the Englishman is above this treatment? In my experience water cannons work rather well at crowd control."

Honestly surprised given the nature of the UK's politics someone was willing to speak out on that, but let that comment run around in Northern Ireland a bit and there will be even more trouble. And honestly from the Reports I've seen they can put 50k cops in London and it won't do a bit of good if all you do isstand about and say go about your day citizen.  Will be of note to see how this changes or shapes the UK's geo-political structure.

Hopefully it will get the government to grow a backbone when it comes to issues of internal security and the same with the police. Although, I don't envy them, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Part of the pacifist aproach might be due to the bashing that the Met (metropolitan police) got after the G20 summit in London, when they kettled several thousand people in a confined area for the entire day, secondly a person was killed when a met officer pushed him and he fell, later collapsing.

The problem is that he was clearly seen walking away, hands in his pockets, had nothing to do with the protest, I belive he worked in a news agent in the vicinity. It is unfortunate that he was caught up in the situation and better judgment on the part of that officer should have been used.

The kettling issue has been trumpeted by the "respect" political party as an obscene tactic, yet these people headed by Miss. Shakribati are a load of weak kneed fools who think talking to people nicely will cause them to disperse. Frankly, many of our political class are career politicians, they don't live in the real world, they have never been in a pub fight, or had to walk home at night and deal wit the drunks and the louts. People must be governed, there has to be fear for the consequences for one's actions or this is what happens.

Modifié par billy the squid, 09 août 2011 - 05:14 .

[RhiGibson]

Well I'm back home. (Maidstone, Kent)
It's reaching here as well, I get off the train and there are police and people EVERYWHERE. The tension is unbelievable!!!!!!!!! All the shops have boarded up/closed early.

Apparently the Primark in the town next to us got set alight also.

[Aeowyn]

It's reached Oxford. Been some looting and a McDonald's restaurant was set alight.