any forum members in Birmingham?
#76
Posté 09 août 2011 - 05:42
#77
Posté 09 août 2011 - 05:49
#78
Posté 09 août 2011 - 06:03
#79
Posté 09 août 2011 - 06:07
gamer_girl wrote...
Wow... My heart goes out to all you guys in the UK that are being affected by this. It's just so shocking to me. I always saw Britain as rather peaceful.
It's not, especially at night.
#80
Posté 09 août 2011 - 06:24
#81
Posté 09 août 2011 - 06:50
For everyone caught in the middle, good luck and I hope you can stay safe
#82
Posté 09 août 2011 - 07:02
To be honest none of this is a real big surprise to me, worked ten years on the doors across northern england and experienced all this crap many times over plus I grew up in the seventies when the footy had real hooligans and there was regular rioting most years. Don't know whether it's because we're a fierce people with no real outlet or it's just opportunistic scum seeking to take advantage of the chaos.
Personally I find all my stress relief in a good pint and a bit of friendly mucking about not bloody vandalism and destruction.
#83
Posté 09 août 2011 - 07:08
To me this is no surprise and has been coming for some time, the average working man here see's over 60% of his wage swallowed up in taxes (when you include income tax, council tax, VAT, TV license and fuel tax), most of this tax is just to pay the interest on government debt (which is perpetual and no end to), and to top it off it costs a hell of a lot of money to be poor, with the banks slapping interest and overdraft charges on those with the least amount of money. Yes many other countries have got it worse but they tend to have a greater sense of equality, the gaps between rich and poor here are massive and ever increasing.
These youths are the children of the people who are suffering here as well as themselves who can not get decent paid work, their parents unable to help or control them as they are so stressed with day to day life, society is broken and the powers that be are refusing to take any responsibilty and it makes me sick.
Don't get me wrong though I am in wo way agreeing with what is going on, I have got a pregnant step daughter who is already overdue, if she goes into labour I will have to drive through these roits to get to the hospital (as well as her partner who himself would need to get her there)...... which is a daunting prospect at best. Just pointing out that i'm not surprised.
#84
Posté 09 août 2011 - 07:14
#85
Posté 09 août 2011 - 07:30
Not gonna lie, it's pretty scary and I normally work late nights in the city centre. Don't think I'm going in tomorrow with it like this!
#86
Posté 09 août 2011 - 07:30
#87
Posté 09 août 2011 - 07:33
#88
Posté 09 août 2011 - 07:39
Valid points but I'd wager that 97% of the people rioting have no interest in any of that and are justing doing it for the hell of it. The economy is going to end up even worse after this, someone has to foot the bill for dealing with this mess. Guess who that will be.Ulous wrote...
Got it going on within five miles of me now.
To me this is no surprise and has been coming for some time, the average working man here see's over 60% of his wage swallowed up in taxes (when you include income tax, council tax, VAT, TV license and fuel tax), most of this tax is just to pay the interest on government debt (which is perpetual and no end to), and to top it off it costs a hell of a lot of money to be poor, with the banks slapping interest and overdraft charges on those with the least amount of money. Yes many other countries have got it worse but they tend to have a greater sense of equality, the gaps between rich and poor here are massive and ever increasing.
These youths are the children of the people who are suffering here as well as themselves who can not get decent paid work, their parents unable to help or control them as they are so stressed with day to day life, society is broken and the powers that be are refusing to take any responsibilty and it makes me sick.
Don't get me wrong though I am in wo way agreeing with what is going on, I have got a pregnant step daughter who is already overdue, if she goes into labour I will have to drive through these roits to get to the hospital (as well as her partner who himself would need to get her there)...... which is a daunting prospect at best. Just pointing out that i'm not surprised.
#89
Posté 09 août 2011 - 07:44
#90
Posté 09 août 2011 - 07:50
J0HNL3I wrote...
My sister said that somthing may happen in newcastle but it looks like people looking for truble then a full on riot
There are some cases that it's an organized attack, prepare for the worst just to be safe.
#91
Posté 09 août 2011 - 07:51
Sparrow Hawke wrote...
J0HNL3I wrote...
My sister said that somthing may happen in newcastle but it looks like people looking for truble then a full on riot
There are some cases that it's an organized attack, prepare for the worst just to be safe.
im away from town but i posted just incase anyone is near but i think its just rumor
Modifié par J0HNL3I, 09 août 2011 - 07:58 .
#92
Posté 09 août 2011 - 07:57
#93
Posté 09 août 2011 - 08:03
Druss99 wrote...
Valid points but I'd wager that 97% of the people rioting have no interest in any of that and are justing doing it for the hell of it. The economy is going to end up even worse after this, someone has to foot the bill for dealing with this mess. Guess who that will be.Ulous wrote...
Got it going on within five miles of me now.
To me this is no surprise and has been coming for some time, the average working man here see's over 60% of his wage swallowed up in taxes (when you include income tax, council tax, VAT, TV license and fuel tax), most of this tax is just to pay the interest on government debt (which is perpetual and no end to), and to top it off it costs a hell of a lot of money to be poor, with the banks slapping interest and overdraft charges on those with the least amount of money. Yes many other countries have got it worse but they tend to have a greater sense of equality, the gaps between rich and poor here are massive and ever increasing.
These youths are the children of the people who are suffering here as well as themselves who can not get decent paid work, their parents unable to help or control them as they are so stressed with day to day life, society is broken and the powers that be are refusing to take any responsibilty and it makes me sick.
Don't get me wrong though I am in wo way agreeing with what is going on, I have got a pregnant step daughter who is already overdue, if she goes into labour I will have to drive through these roits to get to the hospital (as well as her partner who himself would need to get her there)...... which is a daunting prospect at best. Just pointing out that i'm not surprised.
Yeah, sadly people like these ruin it for the rest of us. In these times, with the economy being generally ****, a thing like this will certainly not help. Idiots.
At least it died in Oxford fairly quickly.
Modifié par Aeowyn, 09 août 2011 - 08:06 .
#94
Posté 09 août 2011 - 08:06
Modifié par Aeowyn, 09 août 2011 - 08:06 .
#95
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Posté 09 août 2011 - 08:47
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i saw some videos of police trying to hold down the crowds, and the crowds would go up to the police and yell at them, throw stuff at them, all sorts of stuff, and the police would just shove them a bit. they had to start using more force, hitting them with their riot sticks. how could they get respect when the rioters know they are not going to get anything for throwing stuff at them? also, areas in risk of looting could be barricaded off at the first sign of looters. afterall, don't they have those cc cameras on every corner?
#96
Posté 09 août 2011 - 08:56
#97
Posté 09 août 2011 - 08:56
Modifié par J0HNL3I, 09 août 2011 - 08:57 .
#98
Posté 09 août 2011 - 09:05
#99
Posté 09 août 2011 - 09:24
Modifié par Funkcase, 09 août 2011 - 09:26 .
#100
Posté 09 août 2011 - 09:27
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