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[Kaiser Shepard]

Ryzaki wrote...

Most realistic?

I'd say none of them. The most realistic Shepard to me is a single Shepard.

This. I support more asexuality in Mass Effect!

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I'm really rich and my boyfriend is dirt poor. Rich girls date poor guys like all the time. 

Please teach me how to get a rich girl?

[PhatSeeJay]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I'm really rich and my boyfriend is dirt poor. Rich girls date poor guys like all the time. 

Please teach me how to get a rich girl?

It's like winning the lottery. One day you've managed to smitten a rich girl. You just can't go look for them. 

Modifié par PhatSeeJay, 09 août 2011 - 02:33 .

[goofyomnivore]

mShepard
1) Ashley
2) Miranda
3) Liara
4) Jack
5) Tali

fShepard
1) Kaidan
2) Jacob
3) Liara
4) Thane
5) Garrus

I would argue Liara is the best romance at this point, and possibly even the most realistic for a femShep, but for now I'm giving the nod to the human leads.

*puts on flameshield* Team dextro doesn't make much sense and is fanservice, period.

Jack and Thane are tough to gage because of their circumstances.

I'm kind of in the camp that Shepard is single myself. I'm thinking of picking the "friends until we save the galaxy" in the next-to-final dialogue with Miranda, and hoping we can re-hash that after the Reapers are gone.

Modifié par strive, 09 août 2011 - 02:41 .

[Siansonea]

Shepard and Kelly Chambers. Because they actually go on dates.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 09 août 2011 - 02:57 .

[Tup3x]

Golden Owl wrote...

As a non romancer with no LI choice to defend...taking a cold hard look, I would agree with Gregolian....Kaidan and Ash....also pretty much for the same reasons.

This. However, if we discard the species argument then I 'spus that Liara is on the same line with Ashley. Liara was basically the main LI for my maleShep (usually). Kaidan or none (in case he blows to pieces) for my femShep, other options aren't really options for her nor realistic. At least that's how I see my Sheps and their romantic pairing.

Ryzaki wrote...

Most realistic?

I'd say none of them. The most realistic Shepard to me is a single Shepard.

This too. I'd prefer deeper friendships that these so called romances Bioware seems to be loving to death. DA:O romances were a mess in my opinion. KOTOR did everything better.

Modifié par Tup3xi, 09 août 2011 - 03:40 .

[Nashiktal]

The most realistic relationships? (not counting no romance)

I would say that it's Miranda with maleshep, and Jacob with femshep.

Miranda is the classic jock and the cheerleader relationship that is so common, and Jacob is the everyday guy.

VS comes in second, mainly because in ME1 you were still military, so it's a fraternization issue.

[Blze001]

Siansonea II wrote...

Shepard and Kelly Chambers. Because they actually go on dates.

Liara and Shepard kind of had a date in LotSB... but you do have a point there.

I think this discussion is a moot point. I could make an argument for nearly all of the romance options. I could even make an argument for currently not available romance options too. Thing is, with an RPG, the option you pick will seem the most "realistic" to you, but may seem really strange to others.

[darknoon5]

Ryzaki wrote...

Most realistic?

I'd say none of them. The most realistic Shepard to me is a single Shepard. Maybe with someone waiting back home.

Yeah.

As for most realistic, that depends on the Shepard and depends on societys views at the time on things like relations with other species. Probabl the VS or Miranda/Jacob, but it depends on the Shepard tbh. Species like the asari are pretty damn humanoid and some people do find Garrus and Tali attrative.

[TheMakoMaster]

Arcian wrote...

The most realistic relationship in the entire game?

Shepard and his/her right/left hand (or both), depending on preference.

most definitely both.  :innocent:

[bobdooly]

None because emotional attachment with subordinates leads to faulty decision making which could lead to mission failure and/or people getting killed unnecessarily.

[Phoenix92254]

Miranda because she seems to be equal with Shepard

[StellarMagic]

Which pairing makes the most sense depends on the Shepard really.

A renegade mShep is more of a fit for Miranda or Ashley.
A paragade mShep is more of a fit for Jack or ME2 Liara.
A paragon mShep is more of a fit for Tali or ME1 Liara.

A renegade fShep doesn't really fit any of the options.
A paragade fShep is more of a fit for Garrus, Thane, or ME2 Liara.
A paragon fShep is more of a fit for Kaidan or ME1 Liara.

[Xeranx]

I might regret asking this question, but I really would like to know how someone being a racist (she's not) makes her romance unrealistic? Sounds like you're just making the case that she doesn't appeal to you and is therefore shallow rather than actually taking stock of who she is and making your case from there. It's an incredibly, dare I say, bigoted way of looking at the issue.

In ME the relationships seem to have time to grow minus Liara's.  At the very least it's stressed that there is time for two people to talk, get to know each other, and then make a go at a relationship.  In ME2, it's Garrus, possibly Tali (though I absolutely hate it), Thane, and Kelly (minus the absolute saccahrine element of her character.

Modifié par Xeranx, 09 août 2011 - 07:40 .

[McBaal]

Male Shepard + Ashley Williams. Why? Because it is a forbidden love that needs to be kept secret in front of the alliance military. Forbidden love, thats what a real hero needs

Modifié par McBaal, 09 août 2011 - 08:39 .

[jamesp81]

Ashley is probably the most realistic (for maleshep, Kaidan for femshep)

It's a matter of cultures, viewpoints, and compatibility. I could lecture this thread from a position of authority on what usually happens when two people of wildly different cultures, political or philosophical viewpoints, or religions try to make a marriage or long-term relationship work.

Most often, it doesn't. If it does work, it's because one person doesn't hold his/her aforementioned beliefs and values very closely or in very high regard. Ergo, he/she doesn't really believe in those things all that strongly and he/she is willing to let the other partner have his/her way in things.

For maleshep, his choices across both games are Liara, Ashley, Tali, and Jack. Liara and Tali are aliens that were raised in an environment with utterly unfamiliar philosophies, politics, and religion. Jack was raised in a hellish environment and is so poorly adjusted she can't even maintain casual acquaintances, much less a romantic relationship.

That leaves the good Chief Williams. If your Shepard shares her values, or at least isn't offended by them, she's the most realistic candidate. Shepard and Williams both show signs of having been raised in what can loosely be defined as a 'western' culture, and both share some other values, military service being the obvious one. Personally, I think if you wanted realism, reacting negatively to her during her "God talk" should've killed the romance on the spot, but Bioware left it open for obvious reasons.

Now, all that said, I still chose Liara. Why? Because I want to. The game is fiction and I'm not going to burden myself with what is necessarily the most realistic every time I play. Playing out the 'fantasy' is the privilege you get for plunking down your $60 USD to buy the game.

[Drone223]

Kelly and VS

-Kelly: Flerting and dating pretty much how a normal relationship develops
-VS: Like Shepard are alliance marine's they've seen many things in combat and their moments where they  have disagree with each other (Horizon)

-Liara: One of my canon Shepards have her as a LI but there are moments that I'm not sure if its love or hero worship
-Tali: A fan service nothing more, she seems better as a little sister that Shepard never had
-Garrus: Better depicted as brother's in arms with Shepard

 
 

[Youknow]

Realistically, Kaidan is the only one that makes any sense. Kaidan probably knows you from beforehand. It's clear you don't know much about him, but he's like a co-worker that you knew, and got closer to because of shifting of managers and the like. There's also the fact, that he's like the only character besides Liara that actually expresses interest in you before you can make a move. Which would lead me to believe that he already had some sort of romantic interest in you from before.

Assuming Mass Effect didn't take place over two months or something silly short, I could see this one being pretty good. Jacob's is okay as well, because he makes it clear that he doesn't want to move too fast. The rest honestly move a bit too fast for me.

Sorry maleShep, but all of yours are kinda forced.

[ShepardsIdol]

ShadowSplicer wrote...

I'd have to say Liara, Lair of the Shadow Broker, nuff' said.

Ash is the least realistic for me because she's such a blatant racist.
If romancing Liara, this conversation appears:
"Scuttlebutt (Garrus) says you have a thing for her."
"Oh I get it, have to make nice with all the bug eyed monsters."
On the Citadel:
"I can hardly tell the aliens from the animals."
Honestly, people that think she isn't racist need to open their eyes. She has always been the one to get toasted on Virmire, I never regret it, and I never will.

OK thats all well and good but Scuttlebutt is a military term meaning rumors or the current news with the troops, not a xenophobic term at all. Second, she eases up on aliens as you get to know her. I agree with her and her (Dog and Bear) metaphor because she only trusts them as far as they trust us., which isnt very much at all. Think about it, youre family has fought and shed blood against some of these species. Would you honestly look at a species or even a race the same after your family has been blacklisted because of them. She knows that we would be first on the council's chopping block if the crap hit the fan and the fact that she knows that makes her a better LI and definitely a better person to be with you in a firefight. Why you would Virmire her ill never know. 

[Lilunebrium]

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

What is the most realitistic romantic paring in your opinion?  Also give reasons of why said romantic paring has a realisitc feel that other parings don't.

It seems to me BioWare has been trying really hard to make Liara the canon love interest - especially so in Lair of the Shadow Broker.

But it honestly depends on what you mean with 'realistic' - do you mean canon? What is realistic to the player's Shepard? Or what's realistic to the player?

Having covered canon and moving on to what I personally believe to be realistic, for a female Shepard, I actually do think Garrus wouldn't be too far off, and I say this without Garrus being my favourite option. The 'romance' isn't exactly a romance (according to how it's presented in ME2), more than it is a mere fling - a means to relieve stress, to take one's mind off the tasks at hand.

I don't find it hard to imagine FemShep to be too strictly tied to military code to give in to the other options, considering they all develop into a relationship (or provide the basis for it, at least). And while several arguments can be made against my following statement, Garrus initially seems to be more about sex than an actual full-fledged romance.

And that is exactly why my engineer Tamsyn ended up with a Turian in her cabin. Infiltrator Valerie fell for Kaidan, while sentinel Juno had a thing for Thane. And looking at their backgrounds, their personalities and the events in both games, not once did I feel them to be out of place.

Honestly, there is no real answer to the question. When it comes to point of view, every romance option has convincing arguments to be made in favor or against realism. It's what Blze001 stated;

Blze001 wrote...
I think this discussion is a moot point. I could make an argument for nearly all of the romance options. I could even make an argument for currently not available romance options too. Thing is, with an RPG, the option you pick will seem the most "realistic" to you, but may seem really strange to others.

On a different and slightly unrelated note, I'm a bit baffled by how some people say it's completely unrealistic for Shepard - male or female - to fall for a non-human. Liara, Samara and Thane look humanoid enough for a plausible initial attraction, while Garrus and Tali have their history with Shepard on their side. I don't find it hard to imagine Shepard developing romantic feelings for them at all - not stating that there won't be hindrances, of course.

Modifié par Lilunebrium, 10 août 2011 - 09:38 .

[Never]

Definately Kaidan and Ash, although Miranda seems to be a great fit as well. Kaidan's romance flows really well, and he seems like someone you would meet irl. I think one of the selling points for me was when he slips up when you first get to the citidel. It seems a little lame to always have to be the one initiating the romances in ME2.

[wildannie]

In ME1 I think that it's Ashley and Kaidan that are the most obvious/plausible LIs. In ME2, after the horizon incident, I think it's realistic for Shepard to move on.

Being brought back from the dead is bound to be a massive head f*** so being more adventurous might go with that territory so I think that an alien LI becomes quite plausible.

Also the only human alternative (for straight Femshep) is a cerberus operative so there are sound reasons why that would never happen depending on the Femshep.

[Clonedzero]

honestly, it's the VS, maybe liara.
Miranda and Jacob for ME2

[Golden Owl]

darkness reborn wrote...

Shepard (both male & female) with Liara.
100% fact!

That all depends on femSheps sexual orientation...as a hetro woman myself, if I had a femShep I couldn't imagine her striking it up with Liara.