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[The Twilight God]

Golden Owl wrote...

darkness reborn wrote...

Shepard (both male & female) with Liara.
100% fact!

That all depends on femSheps sexual orientation...as a hetro woman myself, if I had a femShep I couldn't imagine her striking it up with Liara.

Femshep is bi-sexual by default.

[Dean_the_Young]

Ryzaki wrote...

Most realistic?

I'd say none of them. The most realistic Shepard to me is a single Shepard. Maybe with someone waiting back home.

Amen.

Barring that, Kelly Chambers or the Virmire Survivor.

[jamesp81]

ShadowSplicer wrote...

I'd have to say Liara, Lair of the Shadow Broker, nuff' said.

Ash is the least realistic for me because she's such a blatant racist.
If romancing Liara, this conversation appears:
"Scuttlebutt (Garrus) says you have a thing for her."
"Oh I get it, have to make nice with all the bug eyed monsters."
On the Citadel:
"I can hardly tell the aliens from the animals."
Honestly, people that think she isn't racist need to open their eyes. She has always been the one to get toasted on Virmire, I never regret it, and I never will.

She is not a racist.  Let it go.  A bit paranoid....maybe.  Then again, all that stuff she says about the council looking out for itself turned out to be spot on, didn't it?

Please don't bring this ridiculous discussion into this thread.

[jamesp81]

The Twilight God wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

darkness reborn wrote...

Shepard (both male & female) with Liara.
100% fact!

That all depends on femSheps sexual orientation...as a hetro woman myself, if I had a femShep I couldn't imagine her striking it up with Liara.

Femshep is bi-sexual by default.

Femshep is optionally bisexual.  Your femshep character either is, or is not bisexual, depending how you play her.  That's kind of the point.

[Raizo]

Gregolian wrote...

I'm gonna catch hell for this but honestly it's probably Ashley if you are a male Shep and Kaiden for a femshep. Think about it, you have been serving with Kaiden for what I assume has been more than just a couple hours and with Ashley she is the same species, is also in the military, and is the first person you meet after one member of your squad is killed.

Also, if we are going from ME1 forward I don't think Liara because she seems really kinda immature/naive in the first one and seemed like a bit of a psycho to me in the second one.

As much  as I want to say Miranda ( my favorite LI ) I have to agree with Gregolian for all of the reasons listed above.

[The Twilight God]

jamesp81 wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

darkness reborn wrote...

Shepard (both male & female) with Liara.
100% fact!

That all depends on femSheps sexual orientation...as a hetro woman myself, if I had a femShep I couldn't imagine her striking it up with Liara.

Femshep is bi-sexual by default.

Femshep is optionally bisexual.  Your femshep character either is, or is not bisexual, depending how you play her.  That's kind of the point.

That whole consort thing made her bi-sexual. If you need prior knowledge to metagame away a quality of a character, that quality is canon.  If you speak to Shiala in ME2 and she does that flirty thing before she leaves, femshep doesn't the creepster smirk just like males. Femshep is bi because they wanted her more accessible to male gamers.

Now you can chose to only romance males, but that doesn't mean femshep is not bi-sexual just because she only shags dudes. It's like saying maleshep is gay because I choose not to romance any females. He's straight as a board in ME1 - 2.

[The Twilight God]

Raizo wrote...

Gregolian wrote...

I'm gonna catch hell for this but honestly it's probably Ashley if you are a male Shep and Kaiden for a femshep. Think about it, you have been serving with Kaiden for what I assume has been more than just a couple hours and with Ashley she is the same species, is also in the military, and is the first person you meet after one member of your squad is killed.

Also, if we are going from ME1 forward I don't think Liara because she seems really kinda immature/naive in the first one and seemed like a bit of a psycho to me in the second one.

As much  as I want to say Miranda ( my favorite LI ) I have to agree with Gregolian for all of the reasons listed above.

Since there is the whole fraternization thing, Miranda and Jacob make more since. Despite being a SPECTRE Shepard seems intent on still being an Alliance soldier in ME1 so fraternization is still fraternization. ME3 is a different story, but you can't base it on a future unplayed game.

[Champion_of_Tzeentch]

Dariustwinblade wrote...

NONE! None of the romances are realistic.

Shepard is a young man.

He has his whole life ahead of him. He has to worry about saving the galaxy first then worry about romance.

If I was Shepard I would first win the war for our survival. And when that is all said and done.

Go to an expensive exicutive bar. Have a drink with well educated independant woman. Go on a couple of dates get to know each other for at least more than three conversation probally six months. Then if I like her get serious settle down... ETC.

THAT IS REALISTIC. Shep is in no rush.

Realistic, maybe. But also the most boring thing I've ever heard tbh... Romance doesn't need rules.
On topic: Certainly depends on your sheps character. None of my sheps could ever have a thing for Ashley, same goes for Kaidan, but I see how these would be the most realistic. If your shepard is open minded, then I don't see anything against Liara, except that it did feel a little rushed in ME1.

Modifié par Champion_of_Tzeentch, 10 août 2011 - 05:01 .

[jamesp81]

That whole consort thing made her bi-sexual.

Also optional content.

If you need prior knowledge to metagame away a quality of a character, that quality is canon.

There is no canon Shepard.

If you speak to Shiala in ME2 and she does that flirty thing before she
leaves, femshep doesn't the creepster smirk just like males.

Optional content.  Also not relevant, since sexing up a monogendered Asari doesn't qualify as hetero, ******, or bi.

Some femsheps are bi.  Some are lesbians.  Some are straight as a board.  There is no canon Shepard.

[MissMaster]

Realistic? What my Shepard likes is different from what others might like. My Shep likes Garrus, because of his personality and all the crap they have been through together, also they cant breed and that sounds like a plus for her.

Modifié par MissMaster, 10 août 2011 - 05:23 .

[JonnyOwen]

Liara

[StellarMagic]

All the romances feel a bit rushed and actually a bit... difficult to see as a romance until that mission to Ilos. Now in ME1, none of the romances really stands out as being 'good' though for a Paragon MShep it's basically no question going to be Liara. Ashley may not be blatantly racist but she's close.

For a Paragon FShep... Kaidan seems very likely, he strikes me as thoughtful and all that, just not fully developed.

All that changes with ME2. If you romanced Kaidan or Ashley you get your heart ripped out and stomped on at Horizon... which sucks. Liara seems... disturbingly obsessed, even more so after LotSB (genetic tagging on a picture, displays of your old armor...) At the very least I'd expect Shepard to consider dropping their ME1 romance, because they either turned against you or aren't the same person you fell in love with.

Which leads to the ME2 romances...

MShep Options and arcs:
Miranda Lawson = Unrepentant believer in Cerberus values, ice queen, defrosting the ice queen archetype. No Lone Survivor Shepard would touch her... Definitely not really a choice for a Paragon or default Shepard.
Jack "Subject Zero" = Survivor of Cerberus experimentation, broken bird archetype, and sociopath. May have some connection with a default Shepard (Lone Survivor / Earthborn) and may appeal to a paragon as a soul to heal. May appeal to a renegade as an easy conquest.
Tali'Zorah vas Normandy nar Rayya = Adorkable and damsel in distress archetype, friend turned possible love interest, most compatible personality to a paragon Shepard but least compatible physically leading to challenges in the relationship down the road. Basically it's a relationship upgrade...

FShep Options and arcs:
Garrus Vakarian = Student of Shepard, friend, and Hurting Hero archetype... Really compatible with any FSheps, especially paragade types.
Jacob Taylor = Stoic, Military Maverick archetype... hence his joining with Cerberus. Compatible with most FSheps but... he's pretty boring.
Thane Krios = Atoner archetype, dieing... Compatible with most FSheps but... he is dieing... why set yourself up for heartbreak.

[Lilunebrium]

StellarMagic wrote...

*snip* though for a Paragon MShep it's basically no question going to be Liara. Ashley may not be blatantly racist but she's close.

For a Paragon FShep... Kaidan seems very likely, he strikes me as thoughtful and all that, just not fully developed.

*snip*

MShep Options and arcs:
Miranda Lawson = *snip* Definitely not really a choice for a Paragon or default Shepard.
Jack "Subject Zero" = Survivor of Cerberus experimentation, broken bird archetype, and sociopath. May have some connection with a default Shepard (Lone Survivor / Earthborn) and may appeal to a paragon as a soul to heal. May appeal to a renegade as an easy conquest.

FShep Options and arcs:
Garrus Vakarian = Student of Shepard, friend, and Hurting Hero archetype... Really compatible with any FSheps, especially paragade types.

You keep talking about Paragon, Paragade and Renegade, linking alignments with whether or not Shepard would or would not fall for a character, but it's hardly as simple as that. To take it even further, I honestly doubt if it has anything to do with romantic preference at all. 

StellarMagic wrote...
Thane Krios = Atoner archetype, dieing... Compatible with most FSheps but... he is dieing... why set yourself up for heartbreak.

It's not a question of setting yourself up. No one goes "Hm... this one's capable of breaking my heart, huh? YES PLEASE." It just happens, actual involvement or even a relationship not being necessary.

[Lukertin]

One thing everyone is forgetting about is that there are nine different Shepards (18 if you count gender), each with his/her own personality and would basically warrant a different treatment as to who they would be most likely to romance.

For example, Sole Survivor Colonist Shepards would be most likely to romance Jack, due to the fact that both suffered pretty devastating tragedies, at the very least Jack would immediately sense a connection with Shepard because he's gone through similar situations and understands her better than any other Shepard.

Sole Survivor Shepards would be more likely to romance either Ashley, due to their commonality of being sole survivor, or Liara because of her mind-meld ability allowing Shepard see her as some sort of super-therapist

Ruthless Female Shepards would be likely to romance Garrus, or possibly Jacob, since they share somewhat similar philosophies. Kaidan and Thane are not exactly renegade types and would be put off by a Ruthless Shepard.

War Hero Shepards would probably gravitate towards Ash or Kaidan, although if it is a Spacer War Hero, Shepard would probably know about the Williams family and ultimately not end up with her.

etc.

Modifié par Lukertin, 10 août 2011 - 10:00 .

[The Twilight God]

doubt post

Modifié par The Twilight God, 10 août 2011 - 10:27 .

[The Twilight God]

jamesp81 wrote...

That whole consort thing made her bi-sexual.

Also optional content.

Ignoring something to avoid a particular outcome because you have prior knowledge concerning the results is metagaming. The fact remains that femshep will "lez out" with Sha'ira without the players establishing femsheps' bi-sexuality through previous dialog/choices.

jamesp81 wrote...

There is no canon Shepard.

Femshep is canonical bi-sexual. Just like she is canonically an N7.

jamesp81 wrote...

Optional content.  Also not relevant, since sexing up a monogendered Asari doesn't qualify as hetero, ******, or bi.

mono = one.

That one gender is... guess what? Female. Any woman attracted to an asari is attracted to human woman as well. Ergo, femshep is at least bi-sexual.

[Shatha Hunter]

Guys, you've got to remember that Mass Effect is a science fiction RPG. The whole point of playing it is to experience a world vastly different and yet remarkably similar to our own. I personally believe that choosing a human romance option (Kaidan/Ashley/Miranda/Jacob/Jack) is a bit boring. Sure, they're all fantastic characters and have great backgrounds, but seriously, YOUR IN A GALAXY FILLED WITH AWESOME ALIENS!!! Live a little, experiment, go outside the norm. I mean Liara has got to be THE sexiest character I've seen. She's intelligent, beautiful, shy, and exoticly alien. Or for the ladies, why not choose the masculine, battle-heardened Garrus? He's practically the definition of a sexy alien male. But of course this all entirely my opinion, and I mean no one any grief.

[Lukertin]

The Twilight God wrote...

Femshep is canonical bi-sexual.

No.

[Doriath666]

Each love intrest has something to make them stand out as a more compatiable one.Either way,id say the most realistic would have to be Ash or Kaiden...granted im a Talimancer..none work beter than the originals.

[Golden Owl]

The Twilight God wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

That whole consort thing made her bi-sexual.

Also optional content.

Ignoring something to avoid a particular outcome because you have prior knowledge concerning the results is metagaming. The fact remains that femshep will "lez out" with Sha'ira without the players establishing femsheps' bi-sexuality through previous dialog/choices.

jamesp81 wrote...

There is no canon Shepard.

Femshep is canonical bi-sexual. Just like she is canonically an N7.

jamesp81 wrote...

Optional content.  Also not relevant, since sexing up a monogendered Asari doesn't qualify as hetero, ******, or bi.

mono = one.

That one gender is... guess what? Female. Any woman attracted to an asari is attracted to human woman as well. Ergo, femshep is at least bi-sexual.

As much as I hate to admit it and as much as it sh*ts me off....you do seem to be correct Twilight...BW is pandering to pubescent boy children with the blatant sexual imbalance and ridiculous 'arse in the face' catsuits with heels, over done cleavages and belt strap bra's.

Modifié par Golden Owl, 11 août 2011 - 02:15 .

[Bugsie]

Realism in ma vidyya game romance? Get the truck out of here!

Seriously though, all the human romances are ‘realistic’, but the term ‘realistic’ can be defined in this sense by physical interactions and by the mere fact they are human. But most of us are attracted to, and relate to, with more than just the physical aspect of a pixelated romance - on an emotional level – and in this particular game franchise with very anthropomorphised aliens, some of the alien romances are far more ‘realistic’ than the human ones. IMHO.

[Twistedfaith]

As many people before me, I'm going to say none of the characters. Not because of their story lines, not because of how his/her character has been developed or how one RP's their own Shep.

Yes, there are many concepts, allignments do play a big part in it, yet, the galaxy is at stake. Realistically, Shep' would put that before -everything-. Even the Renegade types, maybe the occasional intercourse with another member, or outside person such as Sha'ira, but as relationships go? No.
In most cases, it would be off putting to a team due to one, simple thing. Those whom deep down like Shepard.. (MaleShep example), such as Tali, yet wouldn't say anything until -a lot- later on would be put off, I mean, I would be miffed, since it would seem like male/female Shepard would put their partner's wellbeing before myself, thus, stop a team from working as efficiantly, sprouting jealousy, for said person who's snagged the Galaxy's hero when you want him/her for yourself.
 Battle is being "all there", both on a physical and psychological level, people can easily become distracted for a split second, then end up dead if their train of thought drifts. (( I do hope Bio have will weave in something like that.))

The only case I can remotely see this happening, is with Jack. I myself, haven't romanced her, nor will, yet it would make more sense due to her background and who she is.

My female Shepard has always romanced Liara, through countless playthrough's, I am planning to stick with her, despite obvious consquences.

Modifié par Twistedfaith, 11 août 2011 - 03:20 .

[elsaviour]

I would have to go Liara for reasons already stated before (mshep paragon). But om a side note how many non-human races other than the asari can humans successfully breed with? I dont know a while lot about the lore in the universe or if any has been written about the topic.

Not counting the krogan femshep anime abomination

[Lilunebrium]

The Twilight God wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

That whole consort thing made her bi-sexual.

Also optional content.

Ignoring something to avoid a particular outcome because you have prior knowledge concerning the results is metagaming. The fact remains that femshep will "lez out" with Sha'ira without the players establishing femsheps' bi-sexuality through previous dialog/choices.

Wait. What?
When does this happen? I've had quite a few ME1 playthroughs playing FemShep, and nothing about their encounters suggested romantic interest to me, at any point. Did I miss something?

Modifié par Lilunebrium, 11 août 2011 - 09:25 .