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#501
Inverness Moon

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Wow, this thread.

I can't believe someone actually suggested there was no evidence from evolution. That's like walking outside of your house and claiming there is no evidence that the world is round.

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Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...
But then you risk antagonizing people who are in a resurrection cult, such as christians. Him being dead and coming back to life has caused enough stir as it is, if you want to delve into a religious/metaphysical discussion about it, IN-GAME, you will turn off certain groups of fans. Not smart.


Oh, I totally agree. I just think ME2 stepped on that landmine all by itself, when it could have just said Shepard was in a "coma" and left it at that. Not very believable science-wise... but no less so than potentially reviving the dead. 

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didymos1120 wrote...

Captain_Obvious wrote...

To me, use of the word "Lazarus" is no more than a passing reference or nod to the Lazarus Pits that Ra's al Ghul uses in the Batman comic books to rejuvenate himself.  


You seriously think that was an allusion to Batman? Uh-huh. And Legion's name was really an X-Men reference.


Well said didymos1120 :lol:

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Inverness Moon wrote...

Wow, this thread.

I can't believe someone actually suggested there was no evidence from evolution. That's like walking outside of your house and claiming there is no evidence that the world is round.

I am sure that there are people out there who believe that even that is an illusion.

At the end of the day we’re all going to know one way or the other; instead of worrying about the destination, why not just try to enjoy the ride.
=]

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Sundance31us wrote...

Inverness Moon wrote...

Wow, this thread.

I can't believe someone actually suggested there was no evidence from evolution. That's like walking outside of your house and claiming there is no evidence that the world is round.

I am sure that there are people out there who believe that even that is an illusion.

At the end of the day we’re all going to know one way or the other; instead of worrying about the destination, why not just try to enjoy the ride.
=]


What?! No! They have to see it my way!

/sarcasm

#506
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No no and no!

Religion should not play a bigger role! Let the player decide if they really want to learn more about another species religion, but do not force it upon the player.

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If God exists in the ME universe he was indoctrinated and turned into a Reaper long ago. Unless unleashing the Reapers is how he gets his kicks, than he's just a jerk.

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As much as I would like to see more cultures in ME, I dont want religion to play a bigger role.

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Weiser_Cain wrote...

Rekkampum wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Weiser_Cain wrote...

I think this topic is all the proof needed that religion can be divisive and should be left out.


This thread doesn't seem that divisive to me.  I think my standards are much different than most though :lol:

The developers didn't touch on religion, I think to maximize sales potential.  Getting all preachy about being non-religious or religious will put people off.  Not a good marketing strategy.  They left it open enough for the player to determine their character's motivations and beliefs, which is a pretty good way to deal with it.

Not everything need be spoonfed to the player.  The Lazarus project has some obvious theological implications, but rather than promote any one set of theologies, they just kind of let the player form their own opinion on it.


I agree. While we have some with clear differences in perspective, most of them are being respectful when they disagree.

You guy can't hear what I've been saying about you guys and just didn't post.


What, per say, do you mean by "you guys"? You have to know me beyond my avatar to say anything about me, so humor me. And I've been posting up here. 

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Izhalezan wrote...

If God exists in the ME universe he was indoctrinated and turned into a Reaper long ago. Unless unleashing the Reapers is how he gets his kicks, than he's just a jerk.


Who says god's a "he" if it does exist? My god's a gigantic ron cake that I can have and eat too.

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Religion should play no role at all, not in video games not in life.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...


I love how everyone not of a certain bent tends to be as derogatory as possible. "pesky protestant fundamentalist sects"? Really? That sounds completely unbiased.
This isn't the place for extended discussion of the topic, but evolution is a logical fallacy.

Oh.My.****. I hope you are trolling.

Modifié par Quole, 10 août 2011 - 05:06 .


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HTTP 404 wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

HTTP 404 wrote...

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you dang non-religionists are all the same! spewing their non-belief onto everyone!

You sound like Ashley now Image IPB


she is hot. anything she says is truth

 Liara's hotter.

#514
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Quole wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...


I love how everyone not of a certain bent tends to be as derogatory as possible. "pesky protestant fundamentalist sects"? Really? That sounds completely unbiased.
This isn't the place for extended discussion of the topic, but evolution is a logical fallacy.

Oh.My.****. I hope you are trolling.


The thread got locked over that whole...debate. Not worth starting again.

#515
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Davie McG wrote...

Quite funny, I remember the news here in the U.K reporting on the idiocy of these american journalists. It's the only reason I know about it,  was fun to see the guy from gametrailers just basically say "no your wrong... yes that too is also wrong.. have you even played this game?... why am I even bothering to debate with this idiot"


Well in my country we knew about it because of what that guy... O´realli something like that, said "If the american people don´t support the war they must shut up" xD good heaven :lol:

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Virginian wrote...

Religion should play no role at all, not in video games not in life.

Neither should Atheism then....<_<

Edit: To clarify, ignoring religion and the role that it plays in understanding a culture is about as silly as having God be the ME3 Deus Ex Machina to defeat the Reapers.

You are not required to believe the religion to accept its cultural significance.

Modifié par SandTrout, 10 août 2011 - 05:12 .


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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Quole wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...


I love how everyone not of a certain bent tends to be as derogatory as possible. "pesky protestant fundamentalist sects"? Really? That sounds completely unbiased.
This isn't the place for extended discussion of the topic, but evolution is a logical fallacy.

Oh.My.****. I hope you are trolling.


The thread got locked over that whole...debate. Not worth starting again.

This thread was unlocked? Why?

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Quole wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Quole wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...


I love how everyone not of a certain bent tends to be as derogatory as possible. "pesky protestant fundamentalist sects"? Really? That sounds completely unbiased.
This isn't the place for extended discussion of the topic, but evolution is a logical fallacy.

Oh.My.****. I hope you are trolling.


The thread got locked over that whole...debate. Not worth starting again.

This thread was unlocked? Why?


Because the mods thought that the topic, the role of religion (not evolution or its counterpart) in ME3, was worth exploring and that people would be mature. Let's not prove them wrong.

#519
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Let all be adults by letting this thread die.

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Weiser_Cain wrote...

Let all be adults by letting this thread die.


*Performs Lazarus Operation*

I'm interested in learning more about the Geth's spiritual aspects. We know tthe general bits, but I'm sure that such a complex people have to develop incredibly dense backstory, especially the Heretics.

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too much religion might make mass effect into a religious war game.

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Hellbound555 wrote...

too much religion might make mass effect into a religious war game.


You shall burn in the deep fires of hell, sinner. :wizard:

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mauro2222 wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

too much religion might make mass effect into a religious war game.


You shall burn in the deep fires of hell, sinner. :wizard:


How can I burn in a place that doesnt exist? :whistle:

#524
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And i think this thread has run it's course