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[Z-Dragon]

With the revelation that Hawke and the Warden won't be appearing as the main character in Dragon Age 3, considering how you played each of your previous characters, how do you think you'll play your next hero?

While thinking about mine i'm opperating under the assumption the three of them will meet at some point.

The Warden (M) - Stalwart Knight and Force for Good,  Goes out of his way to help others and believes in the innate good of people
Hawke (M) - Slightly Lazy and Sarcastic Mage, Tends to do his best to avoid trouble, but won't ignore injustices in front of him
3rd Hero (F) - Aggresive and Cut Throat Rogue, Will see to her own needs before others and doesn't believe in coddling the weak

I want the 3rd Hero and The Warden to have a bunch of arguments over what the right path is and Hawke to provide plenty of witty commentary

[Gervaise]

I have six different wardens, all with their own individual motivations and prejudices, so difficult to know which one I would prefer as my canon character. The Hawke character was played pretty much as my generic characters always act, namely champion the downtrodden and oppressed but come down hard on those who abuse their power, whether nobles, templars, mages or the mob, with variations in attitude provided by whether they were a mage or not. So I imagine that my DA3 character will be along those lines provided that the writers allow it - past experience of Bioware games means that inevitably you are going to be put in a situation where your beliefs/code of behaviour is going to be compromised. Will I support the mages or templars - that will entirely depend of the actions of the mages/templars I encounter - but I imagine that the war or trying to avert it will feature prominently in the next game and finding Hawke and asking their opinion or to intervene, etc, will be one of the quests involved, with you able to import your saved character in the same way as for DA2, so the decisions your hawke made will be referenced by characters and may generate some side quests, without impacting on the main plot.

[Icy Magebane]

Yeah, I missed this news somehow... oh well, it's not like I was in love with Hawke or anything...

So for my "canon" PCs?

Warden - Human Blood Mage/AW... evil, manipulative, bargained with demons and did whatever he could to undermine the Chantry... hated living in the Circle but didn't annul them, regardless of what Morrigan said, etc... basically, a maleficar they made the mistake of giving political clout and freedom from the Circle.

Hawke - Templar... a sometimes fanatic supporter of the Templar order, who had no interest in the "plight" of mages, and saw them as dangerous and in need of strict oversight... generally enforces the law to the letter, but also commits assassinations and other questionable activities for extra coin.

3rd guy? I'll probably find the most OP combination of skills and specializations, and make yet another power-hungry adventurer... any political ideas would be defined by the environment, for example, Hawke is a stark contrast to the Warden simply because mages blow in DA2 and I have no real interest in playing as one... it's easy enough to see both sides of any argument, so I don't mind having such a wide gap in my characters morals and allegiances. Plus, I was kind of hoping to see how some of the more extreme actions would impact the sequels, but I guess that was a waste of time...

Also, my characters tend to dislike elves and respect dwarves.

[SleepyWerewolf]

I didn't know about this either, but I'm glad to hear it; I would've hated playing with Hawke again.

Warden - Human Noble and a duel-wielding warrior. He was young, naive, and almost always sarcastic about everything, but had a strong sense of justice and always did what he thought was right and would always help others. He performed the dark ritual though because he obviously wanted to live. Plus he also loved Morrigan.

Hawke - Blood Mage who was incredibly aggressive with pretty much everyone. His choices benefited mainly his family and close friends, but often did the "right" thing as well. He had no opinion on the whole mage vs. templar thing, but when the time came, he was forced to side with the mages due to the betrayal he felt from Anders and his general dislike of Meredith.

Third guy - I'm going to make him a selfish d*ck, who screws pretty much everyone over for the sole purpose of being a d*ck. As for what class he'll be, I generally base that off of who the trailer default guy is.

[ourimaler]

My Warden and my Hawke had a lot in common, really - they were both well-intentioned female warrior trying to do the right thing. The only big difference was that my Warden was competent ().

I imagine I'll probably do the same with a third character. Hey, I know what I like.

[Rifneno]

It was nice to find out "Hawke will become the most important character in the Dragon Age universe" was just a total bald-faced lie rather than we haven't finished his/her story.  That's special.

My next PC?  Anders, hopefully. 

[Herr Uhl]

Rifneno wrote...

It was nice to find out "Hawke will become the most important character in the Dragon Age universe" was just a total bald-faced lie rather than we haven't finished his/her story.  That's special.

Expansions?

[Rifneno]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

It was nice to find out "Hawke will become the most important character in the Dragon Age universe" was just a total bald-faced lie rather than we haven't finished his/her story.  That's special.

Expansions?

Possible, but unless it's Throne of Bhaal 2.0, where the PC can literally become a god, I doubt an expansion or DLC can give enough content for Hawke to become the most important person in Dragon Age.  He's far less important than the leaders of the Chantry, both white and black, the Warden, he's probably even less important than Corypheus.  Or Anders, a party member, as he's the one who actually sparked the war.  If you toss in historical figures, Hawke becomes barely a blip on the radar.  Andraste, Dumat (assuming they're different people), whoever discovered the Wardens' way of slaying an archdemon, there's slews of people that make Hawke look like an insect.

[esper]

Expect people seems to blame Hawke for the chantry. In fact if you are a mage Cassandra make it sound like you came and spread urpsurption from day one.

[Plaintiff]

"Most important person" is the same as saying "most absorbent paper towel", or "most reliable phone service". There is an unspoken contract between viewer and advertisement where we accept a certain amount of exaggeration because that is the nature of advertisement. Hawke is not and could never have been "the most important person in Dragon Age" because sequels, almost by definition, are supposed to be bigger and better than their predecessors in almost every respect. And there's no way we were going to stay with Hawke forever.

I never expected to continue as Hawke in the next installment, and frankly, I didn't want to. I like him just fine but I don't want to be locked into one character for the rest of the series, or even for the next game. My ideal DA3 would skip several years ahead at least, to a Thedas ravaged by a mage/templar war, with a new hero carving out his/her destiny against the bloody backdrop.

I imagine I'll play the new hero the way I played both the Warden and Hawke; cocky, sarcastic, homosexual Rogue.

[Cutlass Jack]

Rifneno wrote...

It was nice to find out "Hawke will become the most important character in the Dragon Age universe" was just a total bald-faced lie rather than we haven't finished his/her story.  That's special.

 

Not quite. They said that if there was a 'Dragon Age 3' there would be a new protaganist. But they also said shortly after that, that they never said Hawke's story was over. There's a substantial bit of leeway there.

Back on topic, my third will be a swashbuckling rogue. Like the first two. I'm hoping this version will be an Orlesian version of a Musketeer. With a rapier.

[nos_astra]

Z-Dragon wrote...

With the revelation that Hawke and the Warden won't be appearing as the main character in Dragon Age 3, considering how you played each of your previous characters, how do you think you'll play your next hero?

The Warden (F) - a noblewoman, reluctantly accepts her fate, politically savvy (but not overly ambitious), knows how to take her pleasures, commander
Hawke (F) - devout, law-abiding, a soldier, torn between her belief and her family, eventually settles into an aggressive stance, hides her feelings, no revolutionary
3rd hero - well, someone like Isabela (if possible)

Modifié par klarabella, 11 août 2011 - 02:31 .

[Cody]

Where did you find out that we wouldn't be playing as Hawke in the next game? Can you post a link to where they said that please?

[Rifneno]

CodyMelch wrote...

Where did you find out that we wouldn't be playing as Hawke in the next game? Can you post a link to where they said that please?

http://social.biowar...35969/2#8040375

[Sister Helen]

Isn't it weird how a personality system for AD&D that came out about 25 years ago still is the easiest way to describe a player character's motivations and behaviors?

I played a lawful good female human Warrior and a neutral good elf Mage as wardens in DAO.

I played a neutral good Rogue and a chaotic neutral Mage in DA2.

I'll probably play a non-Mage and a Mage playthrough on DA3, with at least one of them being chaotic neutral or lawful neutral. (I only play evil characters in the Dungeonmaster series, where you create and populate dungeons with mobs and traps to kill off those pesky heroes who keep digging into your tunnels...)

[GodLikeDevil]

Like my previous 2 "canon" characters, a dirty Rogue through and through. I love dual-wielding. And thanks to the VO for DA2, I was able to infuse my Hawke with some personality. During the first 2 acts he started out as a gruff, Renegade-type character, only occasionally showing Paragon virtues to close friends and others. As time went on, and as the amount of crazy he encountered increased, he gradually shifted from being aggressive to witty, sarcastic knave in order to deal with the absurdity of it all, and that's how he ended DA2.

My third hero will probably follow the same arc, finally resorting to humor in order to deal with the incredible and oftentimes ludicrous nature of his encounters, and of course, to lessen the stress and wrinkles.

[LadyJaneGrey]

First playthrough is *always* a rogue, second is a mage, and I doubt that will change for the next game.  I have no clue as to personalities yet; I'd need to hear some of the backstory.

Lyanada Mahariel: Ranger archer, currently with the Wardens.  "When you need a job done properly, send for an elf."
Galana Hawke: Dual-wielder, sided with the mages, currently working through her PTSD in the wilderness. 

Daylen Amell: force mage, currently waiting for Leliana to finish her Seeker gig and come home.
Malcolm Amell: jack-of-all-trades mage, sided with the templars, currently on the run after a brief stint as viscount.

Edit: formatting fail

Modifié par LadyJaneGrey, 11 août 2011 - 05:34 .

[LadyJaneGrey]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

It was nice to find out "Hawke will become the most important character in the Dragon Age universe" was just a total bald-faced lie rather than we haven't finished his/her story.  That's special.

 

Not quite. They said that if there was a 'Dragon Age 3' there would be a new protaganist. But they also said shortly after that, that they never said Hawke's story was over. There's a substantial bit of leeway there.

Back on topic, my third will be a swashbuckling rogue. Like the first two. I'm hoping this version will be an Orlesian version of a Musketeer. With a rapier.

Mustn't forget an awesome hat.  :innocent:

[Ryzaki]

A snarky morally ambigious mage will be my next guy.

[GhostlyMaiden]

7 planned Wardens with 10 planned Hawkes and all are "canon". I think I'll just do my mains since they're the first playthrough types who's characters were built around the decisions made in game and not planned in advance with a guide.

Warden (F) - Warrior. Devoted to her family. Greedy, would often ask for rewards and was open to bribes. Doesn't like to kill, but does enjoy sparring. Dutiful to the Grey Warden cause, because she feels indebted to Duncan. She starts off with a serious demeanor (vowing to never cry again after her mother's death), but loosens up mainly due to Zevran's influence.

Hawke (F) - Rogue. Devoted to her family. Indifferent to killing, but still tries to avoid it due to personal concerns of becoming a "monster". Prefers to take a neutral stance in regards to mages and templars, but does favor mages due to her sister. Has the patience of a saint, but a really bad temper when somebody does something that manages to set her off. Would love to play a post-game dlc or expansion since the events of Last Straw make her more jaded and less sympathetic to the mage plight (though she still sided with mages on the basis that it isn't right to punish them for what Anders did).

DA3 - All I really know for sure is that I'm rolling a female mage and I have her name picked out, too. Due to the events of DA2, I think it'd be neat to go for a mage who supports the Circle and the Chantry. Maybe a Rachel archetype Arcane Warrior (highly dutiful, obeys orders, yet still has enough morals to disobey an order that is unjust or cruel) or a Mianne archetype blood mage (kind-hearted pacifist) or an Anaki archetype mage (snotty with a big ego that thinks she's the only mage that "deserves" to be free of the Circle). I'll need to hear the circumstances of the DA3 protag before I could really formulate what exactly she'll be.

[LobselVith8]

Rifneno wrote...

It was nice to find out "Hawke will become the most important character in the Dragon Age universe" was just a total bald-faced lie rather than we haven't finished his/her story. That's special.

My next PC? Anders, hopefully.

Anders was already the star of Dragon Age 2. By the Creators, we know it wasn't the Ferelden refugee who couldn't find the time to warn his mother about a serial killer who sent white lilies to his victims, who couldn't be bothered to investigate the note he found in the lair of his mother's serial killer, and who decided to spent three years doing absolutely nothing while the city-state edged closer and closer to the precipice.

@ OP, my Warden was from the Circle of Ferelden, from the Surana background, and he was a proactive, pro-mage, pragmatic person who was willing to make the hard decisions to defeat the darkspawn (from electing King Bhelen and sparing the Anvil to encouraging Avernus to continue his experiments) but wasn't close hearted, since he gave a silver to the boy in Lothering, defended the people of Redcliffe village, and diplomatically resolved the crisis in the Brecillian Forest between the cursed werewolves and the Dalish elves. I'd imagine he's still with Morrigan and his progeny.

If Dragon Age 3 offers a proactive protagonist who is capable of displaying intelligence and is involved in a story with significant choices, then he'll likely be an apostate who sides with the mages in the inevitable war between the templars and the mages.

[Rifneno]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

It was nice to find out "Hawke will become the most important character in the Dragon Age universe" was just a total bald-faced lie rather than we haven't finished his/her story. That's special.

My next PC? Anders, hopefully.

Anders was already the star of Dragon Age 2. By the Creators, we know it wasn't the Ferelden refugee who couldn't find the time to warn his mother about a serial killer who sent white lilies to his victims, who couldn't be bothered to investigate the note he found in the lair of his mother's serial killer, and who decided to spent three years doing absolutely nothing while the city-state edged closer and closer to the precipice.

Fair enough.  Can I at least have a character that enjoys introducing Chantries to fire?  *points to sig*

[LobselVith8]

Rifneno wrote...

Fair enough.  Can I at least have a character that enjoys introducing Chantries to fire?  *points to sig*

Sounds like a solution to me.

[Cutlass Jack]

LadyJaneGrey wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Back on topic, my third will be a swashbuckling rogue. Like the first two. I'm hoping this version will be an Orlesian version of a Musketeer. With a rapier.

Mustn't forget an awesome hat.  :innocent:

It goes without saying. But you're right. It should be said repeatedly, just to be sure.