All we know is that she beleives in some sort of deity and EVERYONE calls her a Christian. What if in ME3, she's a Jew? Or if she's a HIndu, Pagan, Muslim, etc?
What if Ashley is Jewish?
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Dasher1010
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:06
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My reaction: So?
I don't judge people automatically for what religion they believe in.
I may disagree with their religion, but everyone believes for different reasons.
I don't judge people automatically for what religion they believe in.
I may disagree with their religion, but everyone believes for different reasons.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:10
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Since I already like her in spite of her beliefs and not because of them, it won't matter in the least.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:11
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Jewish... with a name like Williams? I doubt it.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:16
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Wouldn't change anything, she'd still be the same character to me.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:18
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LOL, "What if she's Jewish"? Bit of an odd title for a thread saying "What if she was a different religion".
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:24
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Dasher1010 wrote...
All we know is that she beleives in some sort of deity and EVERYONE calls her a Christian. What if in ME3, she's a Jew? Or if she's a HIndu, Pagan, Muslim, etc?
Hindu and Pagan are generally not monotheistic...Ash references God, not Gods....but really, who cares as to exactly what she is?
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:27
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Saphra Deden wrote...
Jewish... with a name like Williams? I doubt it.
in jewish tradition, you are jewish if your mother is jewish. only maternal bloodlines really matter. so yes, with a name like Williams she could still be Jewish. (not to mention - you CAN convert into Jeudaism, you know). she certainly has the nose for it
that said - masl tov? Ishala? Namaste? what do you say as a pagan exactly?
in other words - Ash is still Ash, what does it matter which denimination her religious beleifs are?
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:36
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Collider wrote...
My reaction: So?
I share your reaction, who cares.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:41
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I'm surprised at how positive this thread is. So many people hate Ash for being a "Christian" just because she has some sort of unspecified religious views. I was expecting the angry Richard Dawkins fans to come out of the woodwork.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:43
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Ashley is andrastian and an undercover sister of the Chantry trying to convert everyone on the Normandy.
Am I the only one who figured it out?
Am I the only one who figured it out?
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:43
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Errol Dnamyx wrote...
What if Ashley liked turtles?
Threesome with Wrex.
LOLandStuff wrote...
Ashley is andrastian and an undercover sister of the Chantry trying to convert everyone on the Normandy.
Am I the only one who figured it out?
By the Maker!
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:45
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LOLandStuff wrote...
Ashley is andrastian and an undercover sister of the Chantry trying to convert everyone on the Normandy.
Am I the only one who figured it out?
OMG i thought I was the only one!
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:50
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LOLandStuff wrote...
Ashley is andrastian and an undercover sister of the Chantry trying to convert everyone on the Normandy.
Am I the only one who figured it out?
Andraste's flaming knickers!! You're right.......and that must mean Tali is actually Leliana in a suit so no one will know her identity!! Quick! Get Anders on the Normandy!! Down with the Chantry!
XD
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 06:50
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100k wrote...
She isn't. She believes in an afterlife.
Yeah that. People assume she's Christian because what detail we can glean about her beliefs best matches modern Christian culture and theology (and modern Western culture in general, since she's into Tennyson and Wordsworth and not, say, Sarojini Naidu). It's not people just randomly pulling a monotheistic religion out of a hat.
(That said, I'll also echo the "so what." I like her faith, but I like it because it's faith, not because of what specific faith it is.)
Modifié par Quething, 10 août 2011 - 06:52 .
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 07:03
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We know she's not Jewish because she's not a doctor or lawyer. 
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 07:12
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Saphra Deden wrote...
Jewish... with a name like Williams? I doubt it.
Ashley having the surname Williams doesn't necessarily mean she isn't Jewish.
Williams of course is an English name but many people in the Mass Effect universe are mixed, and Ashley does have a lot of mediterrenean features. For all we know she could have partial Israeli ancestry from her mother's side of the family.
Or she might not, but it can't be automatically ruled out.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 07:21
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Dasher1010 wrote...
All we know is that she beleives in some sort of deity and EVERYONE calls her a Christian. What if in ME3, she's a Jew? Or if she's a HIndu, Pagan, Muslim, etc?
Serious answer: so the hell what? She can be Pastafarian for all it matters. Sheesh people!
Not serious at all answer: If she's Jewish, then she'd better install a mikvah on the Normandy. If she's Muslim, ask her which direction Mecca is when they're going FTL. If she's Hindu, well I'd feel better about leaving her on Virmire, as maybe she'll be reincarnated as a Quarian. If she's Pagan (besides the fact that there is no Church of Pagan - there are a ton of Pagan faiths), well hope she's down with Bacchus or Aphrodite, and that she doesn't go all Sekhmet on Shep's arse.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 07:24
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Pax of Doom wrote...
well hope she's down with Bacchus or Aphrodite, and that she doesn't go all Sekhmet on Shep's arse.
Just remember to keep a lot of wine around, and you're good.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 07:27
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LOLandStuff wrote...
Ashley is andrastian and an undercover sister of the Chantry trying to convert everyone on the Normandy.
Am I the only one who figured it out?
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 07:27
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She's not Jewish. She believes in an afterlife.
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Posté 10 août 2011 - 07:28
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Han Shot First wrote...
Ashley having the surname Williams doesn't necessarily mean she isn't Jewish.
Williams of course is an English name but many people in the Mass Effect universe are mixed, and Ashley does have a lot of mediterrenean features. For all we know she could have partial Israeli ancestry from her mother's side of the family.
Or she might not, but it can't be automatically ruled out.
Israeli ancestry or semitic features =/= Jewish. There are Christian and Muslim Israelis, so country of origin means nothing. There are Ethiopian Jews, so features don't mean anything.
It's rather interesting that the most "prejudiced" character receives scrutiny based on our modern world prejudices. That's actually a good thing, that a character can spark debate and offer reflection on "real world" issues.
