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I have been browsing the forums and happened to notice a discussion going on about ME3 endings being sad.  I started thinking about it a lot and decided I don't want to purchase and waste my time and money on this game if there is no playthrough available where all main characters survive.  I know a lot of people are going to say I'm being a baby or unrealistic but come ON. There should at least be the option.  This is a game.  Games are usually meant to entertain.  I am not the kind of person that enjoys movies and TV dramas.  I need to lighten my load not add to it.

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I'm sure there will be an ending that's "happy". If the writers are smart enough.

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How does anyone one of these fictional characters fictionally dying....in fiction, equate to you wasting money and add to your load?

Modifié par Jeth Prime, 10 août 2011 - 06:58 .


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Jeth Prime wrote...

How does anyone one of these fictional characters fictionally dying....in fiction, add to your load?


Do you ever get emotionally involved in the movies you watch or the books you read?  Same thing.  I don't like to feel sad unless there is happiness and triumph mixed in. 

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The happiness mixed in is you saving the galaxy from the reapers, and trillions of fictional lives.

Modifié par Jeth Prime, 10 août 2011 - 07:02 .


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I'm sure there will be a happy ending of some kind. I feel like Bioware will pull a likeable character's death to get the full impact that people are dying. Maybe the likeable character will be introduced in this game and die in it.

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In ME1 the ending was awesome. At first you are sad because it looks like Shepard didn't make it but then she comes digging her way out of the debris and walks forward. Then that small triumphant smile breaks out and you just want to laugh. It's awesome.

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I dunno. I feel someone important SHOULD die. Otherwise it kinda cheapens the threat of it all.
Obviously there should be a slight - and I mean very slight - chance of everyone you know surviving, but if the majority of players can save everyone without even trying then it's just not "realistic". Bad choice of words, I know, seeing as it is fiction.
Maybe not a squad mate, maybe not even someone Shepard likes. Maybe Udina should die heroically.

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I thought the SM was pretty useless considering how easy it was for everyone to make it. What's so suicide about it. And yes I fully hope and expect people to die in ME3 one way or another. Because seriously it's a war. If you want sunshine and bunnies play Sims or something.

If the Reapers invade and everyone makes it it will be the most pathetic invasion in the history of video games. Not to mention it would make me wonder how the **** no one stopped them before. And also they are supposed to be unstoppable.

Now before all paragons start raging about my comment I also want a happy ending in there. But a realistically happy ending in which still somebody died, there was some sacrifice to be made. Because really if you achieved all without losing anything or anyone what worth was there in the victory in the first place?

I want a range of endings from complete victory of the Reapers, to morbid one in which Shepard has to sacrifices himself/herself, to one in which we barely win it but everyone desolated and exhausted and societies on the verge of extinction, to a moderately successful one in which few races get extinct but other ones survive and thrive. And last a "happy" one in which the galactic community while bearing losses manages to survive and I still lost a few companions but not all. And either way such happy ending should be very very hard to achieve - and certainly by using both renegade and paragon. I'm sorry but if only paragons are able to achieve some measure of happy endings and all their choices turn out to be right ones, this is going to be the last Bioware game I'll be getting.

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I feel certain that most of the endings will be happy. I would love a sad ending because it makes it seem real. Nothing in life comes without price. I don't game to "escape" from life, and thus want the antithesis of life; I game because the games I play seem real.

Undertone wrote...


Now
before all paragons start raging about my comment I also want a happy
ending in there. But a realistically happy ending in which still
somebody died, there was some sacrifice to be made. Because really if
you achieved all without losing anything or anyone what worth was there
in the victory in the first place?


That's got nothing to do with being paragon or renegade. I abhor renegade but I feel a sad ending is better.

Modifié par EternalAmbiguity, 10 août 2011 - 07:16 .


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I'm not looking for realism, I'm looking for a good story. When lives are at stake, people die. Otherwise, it's just stupid. If Shepard has the option to save his people, than I will in one of my playthroughs....

Completely happy endings don't always make for a good story.

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I agree with that. I just want to make sure there IS a happy ending choice, don't expect everyone to survive. I just personally want a choice where Shepard and LI along with most of the team survive.

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I can't feel sad for a film, If it gets too sad I start to see it as cheesy and end up laughing because of how it is over the top dramatic. Last time I honestly cried was pokemon the movie when ash ketchum got turned into a rock. I was 6? How can you feel sad at a game or film?

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I feel certain that most of the ending will be happy. I would love a sad ending because it makes it seem real. Nothing in life comes without price. I don't game to "escape" from life, and thus want the antithesis of life; I game because the games I play seem real.


You and me both. Unfortunately we are a minority on these forums.

@King Minos

Even at a very frail age I would look at movies and wonder how everyone is so bloody incompetent and the main character and it's allies always wins and everyone seems to shoot inaccurately yada yada. Same with the kids stuff I would watch.

It's laughable when the protagonist always wins and good always prevails.

Modifié par Undertone, 10 août 2011 - 07:19 .


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Undertone wrote...

I thought the SM was pretty useless considering how easy it was for everyone to make it. What's so suicide about it. And yes I fully hope and expect people to die in ME3 one way or another. Because seriously it's a war. If you want sunshine and bunnies play Sims or something.

If the Reapers invade and everyone makes it it will be the most pathetic invasion in the history of video games. Not to mention it would make me wonder how the **** no one stopped them before. And also they are supposed to be unstoppable.

Now before all paragons start raging about my comment I also want a happy ending in there. But a realistically happy ending in which still somebody died, there was some sacrifice to be made. Because really if you achieved all without losing anything or anyone what worth was there in the victory in the first place?

I want a range of endings from complete victory of the Reapers, to morbid one in which Shepard has to sacrifices himself/herself, to one in which we barely win it but everyone desolated and exhausted and societies on the verge of extinction, to a moderately successful one in which few races get extinct but other ones survive and thrive. And last a "happy" one in which the galactic community while bearing losses manages to survive and I still lost a few companions but not all. And either way such happy ending should be very very hard to achieve - and certainly by using both renegade and paragon. I'm sorry but if only paragons are able to achieve some measure of happy endings and all their choices turn out to be right ones, this is going to be the last Bioware game I'll be getting.

I like how you put this.  I think it would be a perfect ending if you have everyone super happy and chill because the universe is saved, but at the same time there are still all those squaddies who died heroicly for it.

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I can't feel sad for a film, If it gets too sad I start to see it as cheesy and end up laughing because of how it is over the top dramatic. Last time I honestly cried was pokemon the movie when ash ketchum got turned into a rock. I was 6? How can you feel sad at a game or film?


 Thats your choice.  You just don't get emotionally involved.  I do.Posted Image

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What do you mean emotionally involved? Like if your shep was in afterlife and you feel like your there yourself?

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I too would like a happy ending in addition to a sad, very sad an epic fail ending (epic fail ending being where you get everyone killed). Though every squadmember and important npc surviving the entire game seems somewhat unrealistic. Considering what we've got and what we're up against...

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King Minos wrote...

I can't feel sad for a film, If it gets too sad I start to see it as cheesy and end up laughing because of how it is over the top dramatic. Last time I honestly cried was pokemon the movie when ash ketchum got turned into a rock. I was 6? How can you feel sad at a game or film?


Oh dear if I recall all the movies that made me cry...

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Robhuzz wrote...

I too would like a happy ending in addition to a sad, very sad an epic fail ending (epic fail ending being where you get everyone killed). Though every squadmember and important npc surviving the entire game seems somewhat unrealistic. Considering what we've got and what we're up against...


For me there should be 4 endings:

Full Glory, everyone survives.
Realistic good, billions killed, but your squad survives.
Realistic bad, trillions killed, squadmates dead, one or two species gone.
Full crap, everyone dies, and a cinematic of the reapers "reaping" everything.

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I'm not against characters dying. I am against the inevitable deaths of Shepard and squadmates.
I am very against random deaths of any kind, which would be a horror.

The mechanism in ME2, where it was based on upgrades and a few decisions was good. Of course, in ME2 it was pretty easy to save most or all of your squad if you were paying attention. If that approach was used but a little trickier, I'd be ok with that.

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lknewsome wrote...

I have been browsing the forums and happened to notice a discussion going on about ME3 endings being sad.  I started thinking about it a lot and decided I don't want to purchase and waste my time and money on this game if there is no playthrough available where all main characters survive.  I know a lot of people are going to say I'm being a baby or unrealistic but come ON. There should at least be the option.  This is a game.  Games are usually meant to entertain.  I am not the kind of person that enjoys movies and TV dramas.  I need to lighten my load not add to it.


110% agree

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Mauro atleast you didn't cry watching pokemon the movie like I did...In real life I cried when my mum hit me across my ass with a belt, I kind of turned it into a game and run up into my bunk bed and laugh at her when I was 9 or 10 it was fun being chased while my mum was screaming something Italian at me, it was laugh until you get caught and forced to eat brocolli ( yeah I cried for that as well).

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mauro2222 wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

I too would like a happy ending in addition to a sad, very sad an epic fail ending (epic fail ending being where you get everyone killed). Though every squadmember and important npc surviving the entire game seems somewhat unrealistic. Considering what we've got and what we're up against...


For me there should be 4 endings:

Full Glory, everyone survives.
Realistic good, billions killed, but your squad survives.
Realistic bad, trillions killed, squadmates dead, one or two species gone.
Full crap, everyone dies, and a cinematic of the reapers "reaping" everything.


At this point I think I'll be happy if Shepard, Liara (Li) and some of my favorite squad members survive ME3 since I have no idea what to expect (Much like everyone on these forums).

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I for one one a bittersweet ending. You do good but at a cost. I would also like an epilogue telling about all your choices and their impact. :D