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[Bryy_Miller]

You know, with all this talk of "will we play the Warden"/"What about my kid", I think we're overlooking another equally as interesting/important one:

Morrigan obviously still has an important part in the Dragon Age Universe, as the OGB's mother and all, so what if she were to appear as a future party member?

[TEWR]

If she does reappear, it better be as something closer to Sacred Ashes Morrigan. I will accept nothing else.


WAIT that's not true. I would accept Sacred Ashes Morrigan riding on the back of a gorilla with a naked drunken Oghren screaming behind her to return the gorilla, which would then become the PC's companion.

I would ask for Morrigan to be naked as well, but I think that's pushing it.   

Plus it wouldn't go with her character I think for her to just randomly be naked

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 11 août 2011 - 12:44 .

[Grimmdead]

Oh my dark mistress.... I miss her dearly.

[dheer]

Filament wrote...
Yes, as a romance option, indeed.

Hate building....

For a new protagonist.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...No

[TEWR]

Filament wrote...

Yes, as a romance option, indeed. For a new protagonist.

Also, looking as much unlike the Sacred Ashes Morrigan as is humanly possible.

Sacred Ashes Morrigan is beautiful!






and if you wanted her to not look like SA Morrigan as much as possible, that would result in this:





which IIRC was debunked by a dev, but still...

[King Cousland]

Sacred Ashes Morrigan isn't as beautiful as in-game Morrigan!

But seriously, I don't want her as a companion. I love the character, but I think she's too important to be a companion. She can serve a better role as an NPC, much like her mother IMO.

[Sutekh]

Filament wrote...

Yes, as a romance option, indeed. For a new protagonist.

"But she was in a romance with my Warden!" players protested in outrage.

And lots of virtual crimes passionels happened.

And looking as an exact mix of Sacred Ashes Morrigan and not Sacred Ashes Morrigan as is humanly possible.

Seriously, though, I'd like that. I miss the wild witch.

Also, Zevran. (But he better keep his Antivan hands off the new protagonist or there will be blood.)

[bleetman]

Sure, but on one condition:

Repeat after me, Morrigan. "It is".

Modifié par bleetman, 11 août 2011 - 01:02 .

[Dave of Canada]

Morrigan can't return, they removed the approval system. How could she disapprove of everything you do?

[Brockololly]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

You know, with all this talk of "will we play the Warden"/"What about my kid", I think we're overlooking another equally as interesting/important one:

Morrigan obviously still has an important part in the Dragon Age Universe, as the OGB's mother and all, so what if she were to appear as a future party member?

No.

Assuming it sticks to the mandate of a new PC per game, that would mean BioWare would likely have to account for all the permutations of the Warden+Morrigan and/or the OGB and so forth. Those Morrigan romance flags remain screwed up when imported to DA2. I have little faith at this point in BioWare being able to give any decent reasoning for why a Warden that romanced Morrigan and went through the Eluvian with her wouldn't be around with her for some future game.

Sure they could off screen kill off the Warden or claim he stayed behind to raise the OGB in Eluvian Land or something, but a big part of my interest in Morrigan's story is how it relates to her realtionship and character development via the Warden.


I don't doubt that Morrigan will come back in the future, but given all the variations that could come from the Warden and Morrigan in Origins and Witch Hunt, I have my doubts BioWare could make her reappear without ****ting all over people's Wardens. So unless they're going to actually have her reappearance account for the various end states in a meaningful way and fix her still existing import bugs, I'd rather they just leave well enough alone. But its more likely they'll pull an Anders 2.0 method of character development in reintroducing Morrigan by having her totally different in some way, thus handwaving her past with the Warden.


And the DA2 facemorph system is pure dog excrement, so we'd likely get some mutant abomination like we see above.

[TEWR]

bleetman wrote...

Sure, but on one condition:

Repeat after me, Morrigan. "It is".

I thought 'tis was a word commonly used in.... midieval Europe? Or was it the Renaissance time period? Or was it both?

Anyway, I thought 'tis was an actual word that was used.

[TEWR]

[quote]Filament wrote...

If Morrigan does return, I prefer she keep her DAO look, or look more like this:

*snip*

Or:


The lady, of course, not the ogre.
[/quote]



I repeat what I said on another thread where you posted that line.

I dunno, that Ogre is pretty sexy.



Also...


[quote] The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...







but between the two, there isn't much difference. The hair style is the same and the lips are the same size, though in Sacred Ashes there was a difference in how they looked when they spoke. But I imagine that she would speak like that anyway.. The eyes are not only the same color, but the same design. The only real difference is that of the nose (which of the two I prefer SA over Origins) and that Origins' version of Morrigan had a narrower head that was slightly taller.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 11 août 2011 - 01:16 .

[Brockololly]

Filament wrote...

If Morrigan does return, I prefer she keep her DAO look, or look more like this:
*snip*

tmp7704 modded it already (picture below is just the modded robe/hood with default face)

Modifié par Brockololly, 11 août 2011 - 01:19 .

[TEWR]

I think if we're going to discuss Morrigan and her looks, still images won't do either incarnation justice.








Some Sacred Ashes Morrigan awesomeness.

[thenemesis1]

Brockololly wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

You know, with all this talk of "will we play the Warden"/"What about my kid", I think we're overlooking another equally as interesting/important one:

Morrigan obviously still has an important part in the Dragon Age Universe, as the OGB's mother and all, so what if she were to appear as a future party member?

No.

Assuming it sticks to the mandate of a new PC per game, that would mean BioWare would likely have to account for all the permutations of the Warden+Morrigan and/or the OGB and so forth. Those Morrigan romance flags remain screwed up when imported to DA2. I have little faith at this point in BioWare being able to give any decent reasoning for why a Warden that romanced Morrigan and went through the Eluvian with her wouldn't be around with her for some future game.

Sure they could off screen kill off the Warden or claim he stayed behind to raise the OGB in Eluvian Land or something, but a big part of my interest in Morrigan's story is how it relates to her realtionship and character development via the Warden.


I don't doubt that Morrigan will come back in the future, but given all the variations that could come from the Warden and Morrigan in Origins and Witch Hunt, I have my doubts BioWare could make her reappear without ****ting all over people's Wardens. So unless they're going to actually have her reappearance account for the various end states in a meaningful way and fix her still existing import bugs, I'd rather they just leave well enough alone. But its more likely they'll pull an Anders 2.0 method of character development in reintroducing Morrigan by having her totally different in some way, thus handwaving her past with the Warden.


And the DA2 facemorph system is pure dog excrement, so we'd likely get some mutant abomination like we see above.

Yea, they will bring her back but they will screw over the "Warden+Morrigan fan base".  I think they will have Logain be the father of her godchild and go from there.  They will do whatever it takes to take the Warden out of everything and in time that goes for Hawke fans too.  They seem to bring in all the other characters that were around your "eyes, pcs"..that played the game and make them more important to the story.....thats such BS. She will look funny and act as if the Warden was not even there. They hate the very character you play and make them as some lone character that will never be around or play any important part of your story. The lore never can make up for good characters but they sure as hell think so.....lol.

[Brockololly]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
but between the two, there isn't much difference. The hair style is the same and the lips are the same size, though in Sacred Ashes there was a difference in how they looked when they spoke. But I imagine that she would speak like that anyway.. The eyes are not only the same color, but the same design. The only real difference is that of the nose (which of the two I prefer SA over Origins) and that Origins' version of Morrigan had a narrower head that was slightly taller.

The SA version is based on Victorria Johnson while the in game version is not.  And beyond the hair style and eye color being the same, the overall shape of the faces and features are quite different, IMO.

Modifié par Brockololly, 11 août 2011 - 01:25 .

[thenemesis1]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I think if we're going to discuss Morrigan and her looks, still images won't do either incarnation justice.








Some Sacred Ashes Morrigan awesomeness.

Now that is a true Morrigan!

[TEWR]

Brockololly wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
but between the two, there isn't much difference. The hair style is the same and the lips are the same size, though in Sacred Ashes there was a difference in how they looked when they spoke. But I imagine that she would speak like that anyway.. The eyes are not only the same color, but the same design. The only real difference is that of the nose (which of the two I prefer SA over Origins) and that Origins' version of Morrigan had a narrower head that was slightly taller.

The SA version is based on Victorria Johnson while the in game version is not.  And beyond the hair style and eye color being the same, the overall shape of the faces and features are quite different, IMO.

Yea I know SA Morrigan was based on her, just as SA Leliana was based on someone else (can't remember the name)

But both Morrigans seem to have the same jawline imo.

[Atakuma]

Morrigan was an obnoxious character. She could have been squished by an ogre for all I care.

[TEWR]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Morrigan can't return, they removed the approval system. How could she disapprove of everything you do?

She'd find a way.

Player: Hey Morrigan, you look great today.
*Morrigan disapproves -10*
Player: Shouldn't I get Friendship for that?
*Morrigan disapproves -15*
Player: What about Rivalry?
*Morrigan disapproves -50*
Player: Oh **** this ****.
*Morrigan approves +1*
Player: Oh go to hell Morrigan
*Morrigan disapproves -35

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 11 août 2011 - 01:33 .

[G00N3R7883]

I'd be happy for any character to return, as long as it makes sense for the story. I wouldn't be happy if it was just a case of "oh hey the fans like this character let's find a way to put them in somehow".

I would be even less happy if that child suddenly became an integral part of the story considering my warden didn't accept Morrigan's "offer", and actually thought it was the worst idea in the history of bad ideas ("hmm, so we kill the archdemon, and then create something with the same power, to be raised by a person with a terrible idea of good and evil, yeah there's no way that can go wrong"), so as far as I'm concerned that child does not exist.

[In Exile]

Brockololly wrote...
No.

Assuming it sticks to the mandate of a new PC per game, that would mean BioWare would likely have to account for all the permutations of the Warden+Morrigan and/or the OGB and so forth. Those Morrigan romance flags remain screwed up when imported to DA2. I have little faith at this point in BioWare being able to give any decent reasoning for why a Warden that romanced Morrigan and went through the Eluvian with her wouldn't be around with her for some future game.

I maintain that Morrigain should have an actually mute (and cowled) Warden as her companion if she appears. As for the flags being screwed up, you could just handle it via dialogue. ''Oh, the bard Leliana told a story that you were in love with the Warden'' dialogue option clears that right up and locks the new PC out of any romance.

Sure they could off screen kill off the Warden or claim he stayed behind to raise the OGB in Eluvian Land or something, but a big part of my interest in Morrigan's story is how it relates to her realtionship and character development via the Warden.

Or the Warden is working independently, and Morrigain has some means of communicating. I get that you really like Morrigain+Warden, but the reality is that most Morrigain permutations do not involve her + the Warden in any meaningful sense.

I don't doubt that Morrigan will come back in the future, but given all the variations that could come from the Warden and Morrigan in Origins and Witch Hunt, I have my doubts BioWare could make her reappear without ****ting all over people's Wardens. 

Sure they could. The only problem is the <3 Warden that goes with her through the Eluvian.

But Bioware already showed they don't care about ****ting all over someone's Warden when they made DA:A to start with.

 But its more likely they'll pull an Anders 2.0 method of character development in reintroducing Morrigan by having her totally different in some way, thus handwaving her past with the Warden.

Posessed by Flemeth, you mean?